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War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 3:06:30 PM   
Canoerebel


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Status: offline 		When War in the East debuted, I had some concern that it might prove so successful that it would syphon off players from the AE forums. The two games ran neck and neck for qutie some time, but over the past year AE has picked up steam and WitE has lost some, so that AE seems to have a 2:1 advantage most of the time. (It isn't that I don't wish all success to WitE, but I sure would lament any diminution in the AE community, which is superb).

Anyow, GJ himself is now giving WitE a run for the money. This morning there were 13 people logged into the WitE main forum at one point, with 9 logged into GJ's AAR.
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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 3:11:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh sweet Jesus, compared to the Soviets the Japanese were masters of picking simple to spell place names. I can't wait to see what he comes up with

< Message edited by Nemo121 -- 1/26/2012 3:14:48 PM >

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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 3:12:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Pixels of burning ships still have the advantage over bland counters on the Russian map :)

Apart from that, in WITE you don't get to cheer (swear) on your subs/ pilots when they launch their torpedoes!

WITP:AE is personal.


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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 3:23:19 PM   
Canoerebel


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Status: offline 		Oops, my post was unclear (imagine that - an editor/laywer not expressing himself clearly in the written word!).

My wording was vague enough for readers to think I was saying that GJ had aquired and was playing WitE.  What the words meant to convey was that GJ's AAR, in a head-to-head contest with WitE, was holding it's own.

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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 3:33:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nemo121

Oh sweet Jesus, compared to the Soviets the Japanese were masters of picking simple to spell place names. I can't wait to see what he comes up with


If he ever does move over, we can only hope he adopts the cyrillic alphbet. Then we wouldn't know how accurately he spelled.

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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 4:26:44 PM   
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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 5:06:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi all,

Just to put things in perspective - Joel told us that WitE sold as fast (if not faster) than WitP or WitP-AE and that he expects the overall sales to be in the same ballpark (for each game: WitP, WitP-AE and WitE)!

Thus saying that WitE "lost steam" is not correct especially since most players of WitE prefer solitary play vs. AI!

Also we here are veterans of UV / WitP / WitP-AE and WitE is first of the series...


Leo "Apollo11"

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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 5:23:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I played WitE (vs AI) quite a bit when it came out but have since stopped and moved across to WitP:AE.

WitE just does not have the same grand sense of awsomeness and epicness as WitP:AE.  There also seems to be a lot of arguments/disagreements over design desicions which i find very offputting.



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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 5:25:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sanderz

I played WitE (vs AI) quite a bit when it came out but have since stopped and moved across to WitP:AE.

WitE just does not have the same grand sense of awsomeness and epicness as WitP:AE.  There also seems to be a lot of arguments/disagreements over design desicions which i find very offputting.





Oh you will surely notice that here the whole community is happy with every design decision and the game rules. Its a big bunch of friends who are having fun in the warm and mild pacific waters.

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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 5:27:20 PM   
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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 5:31:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Apollo11
Hi all,

Just to put things in perspective - Joel told us that WitE sold as fast (if not faster) than WitP or WitP-AE and that he expects the overall sales to be in the same ballpark (for each game: WitP, WitP-AE and WitE)!

Thus saying that WitE "lost steam" is not correct especially since most players of WitE prefer solitary play vs. AI!

Also we here are veterans of UV / WitP / WitP-AE and WitE is first of the series...

Leo "Apollo11"


I recall reading Joel's comments in this regard. Going purely from memory, which is two or three months old now, I do not remember him stating these things. As I recall, his comments were carefully couched in such a way to give the impression that WitE was performing well, but not necessarily "as good or better" than AE. In fact, his careful couching left me with the impression that WitE was doing okay, but not spectacularly.

My interpretation of what he said might be influenced by my own high regard of AE and my concern (prompted by Q-Ball's awkward defection) that WitE might siphon off alot of AE players. But I can tell you without doubt that traffic in the forums has been much heavier for AE vs. WitE over the past nine months or so.

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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 5:32:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Those warms waters you speak of are the trickle down the legs we experience after a one-sided loss in a massive carrier battle.

Hahaha awesome.
Ok welcome to the feeding grounds.

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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 5:44:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Those warms waters you speak of are the trickle down the legs we experience after a one-sided loss in a massive carrier battle.



hmmmmm, i still have that to look forward too, i knew i should never have thrown out all the kids nappies

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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 5:56:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Those warms waters you speak of are the trickle down the legs we experience after a one-sided loss in a massive carrier battle.



Just about spewed my tea at this one CR!

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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 5:59:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I tend to bounce from forum to forum. I do find the AE AARs a better read as there is so much more to learn.

WITE is fun and I have an AAR going on my first game for over a year but I miss AE tremendously. Reading some AARs like Greyjoys and Rebels are such a tease!

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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 6:15:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		GreyJoy's interpretation of the Russian Bare...

..(shivers)...

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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 6:43:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Alfred


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nemo121

Oh sweet Jesus, compared to the Soviets the Japanese were masters of picking simple to spell place names. I can't wait to see what he comes up with


If he ever does move over, we can only hope he adopts the cyrillic alphbet. Then we wouldn't know how accurately he spelled.

Alfred


Tell you what, go back and look at his first 20 pages or so and then compare them to his current posts. If you want to master a foreign language, then invade Japan and write an AAR about it. It is like we have put him through 3 years of college level English.


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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 6:56:37 PM   
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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 8:49:53 PM   
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I play both games, and love both games with an equal passion, but then I suppose I am different (tic).


Hey you, Mr. Man. You are not supposed to be playing any games that add to your stress. Doctor's orders.


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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 9:12:47 PM   
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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 10:10:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well WITP is a more complete game. Most of the wargames have focus on land, and then air is just and addon and the sea combat is dread awful. WITP is the only game that tries to achieve the whole - it is a bit short in land battle but at least tries to get the whole. If it was opened to Modding in other scenarios like Mediterranean it would have even more players. Variety is what makes the longevity.

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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 10:18:25 PM   
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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 10:32:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mistmatz

I'll definitely play WitE. As soon as I have my WitP AE PBEM campaign finished...


In that case, why not just skip directly to WitM.

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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 10:50:09 PM   
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Well, so thanks for the english phd

Secondly, i actually have bought WITE before WITPAE...and i'm sure i'm gonna stick into it...but for the moment AE has completely swallowed my soul and i cannot even think of playing anything else... for sure when this match with Rader will be over i'll take a pause...just to breath, you know... and probably will give WITE another try...

Don't know if i'll ever do another AAR...defenetly too many responsabilities  (in a positive meaning, mind you)...but really, you feel the pressure of the community...the expectations of your followers...you know you cannot let them down...and when you lose a battle you almost feel more sorry for them than for you...

...weirdness of AE World

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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 11:02:11 PM   
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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 11:04:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: vettim89


quote:

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

I play both games, and love both games with an equal passion, but then I suppose I am different (tic).


Hey you, Mr. Man. You are not supposed to be playing any games that add to your stress. Doctor's orders.



Hi Tim, Managed to negotiate to play WitE against the AI. But I'm not allowed any Pbem games, which is a real bummer.




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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/26/2012 11:20:53 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dili

Well WITP is a more complete game. Most of the wargames have focus on land, and then air is just and addon and the sea combat is dread awful. WITP is the only game that tries to achieve the whole - it is a bit short in land battle but at least tries to get the whole. If it was opened to Modding in other scenarios like Mediterranean it would have even more players. Variety is what makes the longevity.


Upcoming WitE follow-ons will incorporate Mediterranean theater including the sea combat...


Leo "Apollo11"

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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/27/2012 12:05:54 AM   
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So far I have restarted about a dozen times, with the longest play as Germans in the 1941-45 Campaign getting to Jan 42


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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/27/2012 12:17:24 AM   
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Bring back the shrubbery!


You see? as soon as i changed my fixation with "hairy" stuff i lost my luck...

Think from now on i'm not going to shave myself anymore (not that i shave anything else than the beard...you know )

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RE: War in the East vs. GreyJoy - 1/27/2012 12:25:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Bring back the shrubbery!


You see? as soon as i changed my fixation with "hairy" stuff i lost my luck...

Think from now on i'm not going to shave myself anymore (not that i shave anything else than the beard...you know )



I am sooooo....not going to touch that one.

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