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Pelton vs JV - 1/13/2012 10:27:52 PM   
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We started this game a while back. Figured I would put up the AAR as JV will have more time soon to play.
AAR will be a few turns behind as normal.

Good game so far, nothing coming easly. JV is evacing as per Flaviusx plan. Leaving the forward AP point's (38'ish) and railing out ahead of the curve. Over all he is playing a good game so far. Checker board ish defence. High CV stacks with single units between stacks. Allot like Kamil and Hoooper. My forses are just now getting to JV's main line of defences.

I figured I skip the first 3 turns seeing everyone has seen them 12 times alrdy on these boards hehehe

Turn 4
10 ARM
German Arm PTs in pool= 54,000
German Manpower in pool= 52,000
Russian units destroyed after November 1st 1941 =
Russian losses this turn: 90,000 Total dead: 820,000
Russian OOB: 4,153,000
A net gain of: 0 men
Russian units currently in a pocket: 15 ? guessing
GHC OOB: 3,426,000
GHC net OOB change: 0 men

AGN: Pushes for Leningrad. Model takes over 18th and pioneers, guns and 85+ morale infantry divisions are added. Things are going as planned, but I hit a wall of high CV stacks this turn. More poineers and guns are added to I Corp. Both Panzer corps HQ up.

Next turn should prove interesting.







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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/13/2012 10:31:47 PM   
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AGC: Normal stuff so far. A quick thrust be panzers and then wait for infantry. JV has a wall of high CV units covering land bridge and east of rivers.

I am going to play AGC a little different this time around as this has become the standard defence by most Russian players.

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8 games ended in 43 (2-3-3)
4 games ended in 44 (0-1-3)


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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/13/2012 10:37:58 PM   
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AGS: JV cuts off spearhead, nice move on his part. I seal off flanks a little better and keep moving east.

Only 2 HQ build-ups in North so far, wow I am slipping heheh.

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8 games ended in 43 (2-3-3)
4 games ended in 44 (0-1-3)


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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/14/2012 12:58:48 PM   
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Turn 5
10 ARM
German Arm PTs in pool= 48,000
German Manpower in pool= 70,000
Russian units destroyed after November 1st 1941 =
Russian losses this turn: 120,000 Total dead: 941,000
Russian OOB: 4,250,000
A net gain of: 100,000 men
Russian units currently in a pocket: ?
GHC OOB: 3,393,000
GHC net OOB change:-32,000

AGN: Breaks through and crosses Luga River.




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8 games ended in 43 (2-3-3)
4 games ended in 44 (0-1-3)


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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/14/2012 1:00:10 PM   
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AGC: Infantry moving forward.




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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/14/2012 1:01:19 PM   
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AGS units move up and prepare to attemp a crossing.




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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/27/2012 2:44:07 PM   
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Turn 6
German Arm PTs in pool= 44,000
German Manpower in pool= 90,000
Russian units destroyed after November 1st 1941 =
Russian losses this turn: 122,000 Total dead: 1,063,000
Russian OOB: 4,220,000
A net gain of: -30,000 men
Russian units currently in a pocket: ?
GHC OOB: 3,375,000
GHC net OOB change:-18,000

AGN keeps pushing.




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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/27/2012 2:44:46 PM   
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AGC




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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/27/2012 2:45:54 PM   
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AGS: Crosses river. I pocket a few troops over the next few turns






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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/27/2012 2:53:46 PM   
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Pelton you have so many games under your belt you should start your aar's in '42

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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/27/2012 3:06:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Baelfiin

Pelton you have so many games under your belt you should start your aar's in '42


Yes 41 is getting boring in most cases.
1. take leningrad
2.most of south
3. kill 3 million russians

most are same other then a few really good 41 summers, but those AAR's end before they start generally heheh

Most russian players don't have any major disasters because of general with drawal tactics.

Games are desided in 42 and not 41.

Pelton

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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/27/2012 4:00:06 PM   
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u have botted axis first turn moves? haha should be doing them with eyes close soon pelton :)

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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/30/2012 1:59:17 AM   
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Turn 7
German Arm PTs in pool= 46,000
German Manpower in pool= 115,000
Russian units destroyed after November 1st 1941 =
Russian losses this turn: 168,000 Total dead: 1,215,000
Russian OOB: 4,438,000
A net gain of: n/a men
Russian units currently in a pocket: n/a
GHC OOB: 3,375,000
GHC net OOB change:n/a


AGN; 4th PZ and 18th keep pushing for Leningrad. JV has put up very stiff resistance in front of Leningrad, which is the best tactic as the russian player to do.




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4 games ended in 44 (0-1-3)


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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/30/2012 2:03:47 AM   
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AGC: Nothing much going on really just getting in a few wins where I can and pocketing a few troops here and there. Building up moral basicly waiting on troops from operations near Leningrad.

JV put up a nice wall at land bridge and has been digging forts behind the front.

JV seems to have a very good under standing of the early stages of the game.




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8 games ended in 43 (2-3-3)
4 games ended in 44 (0-1-3)


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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/30/2012 2:09:01 AM   
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AGS pocketing a few troops taking our sweet time moving east.

Having now started and played a bunch of 1.05 games into 42 my over all out look on operations/tempo and tactics have changed some what.

I little wiser from the school of hard knoxs I guess.

Pelton




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8 games ended in 43 (2-3-3)
4 games ended in 44 (0-1-3)


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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/31/2012 4:15:20 AM   
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Turn 8
German Arm PTs in pool= 30,000
German Manpower in pool= 133,000
Russian units destroyed after November 1st 1941 =
Russian losses this turn: 115,000 Total dead: 1,321,000
Russian OOB: 4,546,000
A net gain of: 0 men
Russian units currently in a pocket: 15
GHC OOB: 3,303,000
GHC net OOB change:0





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7 games ended in 42 (5-0-2)
8 games ended in 43 (2-3-3)
4 games ended in 44 (0-1-3)


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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/31/2012 4:16:03 AM   
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AGC




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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/31/2012 4:16:39 AM   
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AGS




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8 games ended in 43 (2-3-3)
4 games ended in 44 (0-1-3)


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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/31/2012 9:51:18 AM   
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Pelton...you mentioned about "taking our sweet time and moving east" and the concern you have about morale...that you are concentrating on building it. You commented that at AGC you were "basically waiting on troops from operations at Leningrad." That is you want a strong enough force in AGC to push toward Moscow so that you would not have to make many high risk attacks (accept defeats and loss of morale) in achieving your goal.. the Kremlin. But it seems that to take Moscow 41, 1) you have to push hard ,particularly early (making more "risky attacks" and thus helds and loss of morale) ), and 2) strive to kill units by encirclements, which require a lot of high risk hasty attacks ( more "helds" and loss of morale) if you want to get big isolation pockets, and then 3) to take Moscow (or Leningrad for that matter) you're going to have to hit strong forts with 2-3 stacks of infantry with some "helds".. resulting in huge losses in morale with 6=9 units involved. ??? Morale shouldn't be a focus in 41, but killing Ruskies and taking manpower. Some loss of morale will have to happen. ???

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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/31/2012 10:05:55 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: HITMAN202

Pelton...you mentioned about "taking our sweet time and moving east" and the concern you have about morale...that you are concentrating on building it. You commented that at AGC you were "basically waiting on troops from operations at Leningrad." That is you want a strong enough force in AGC to push toward Moscow so that you would not have to make many high risk attacks (accept defeats and loss of morale) in achieving your goal.. the Kremlin. But it seems that to take Moscow 41, 1) you have to push hard ,, mo f morale), and 2) strive to kill units by encirclements, which require a lot of high risk hasty attacks ( more "helds" and loss of morale) if you want to get big isolation pockets, and then 3) to take Moscow (or Leningrad for that matter) you're going to have to hit strong forts with 2-3 stacks of infantry with some "helds".. resulting in huge losses in morale with 6=9 units involved. ??? Morale shouldn't be a focus in 41, but killing Ruskies and taking manpower. Some loss of morale will have to happen. ???


The distance from the land bridge is short. 1 HQ build-up.
The facts on the ground are that your going to be lucky vs most players to get 3 million KIA, vs 8421 I got 3.5 million and still did not take Moscow.
Moscow in most games is taken because of a russian players OPPs, not because of skill on the germans players part "all things being equal"

As the German player you can only take what your given. In other words in most cases German players exploit mistakes.

To take Moscow in 41 is mostly because of poor game play on the Russian players part, not anything amazing on the german players part.

Flaviusx held it vs James and would have had a kick ass blizzard O in there game because of james lines. Its held in many of my games but I can still "win" in 1942 and have more then once.

Even if you take it, holding it is foolish and not worth the risk, because it can easly be retaken in 42 with little cost.
The main damage from taking it is the population hit of which effects are limited to 43.

Building morale in the center should be the main goal of the german effert in 41, the main goal is not taking Moscow in the center. The main goals are Leningrad and the south. If the Russian player has a brainfart in the center and hands Moscow to you take it for sure, but its only takeable because of russain mistakes.

The War is won or lost in 1942 now.

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15 games ended in 41 (15-0-0)
7 games ended in 42 (5-0-2)
8 games ended in 43 (2-3-3)
4 games ended in 44 (0-1-3)


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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/31/2012 10:14:20 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: HITMAN202

Morale shouldn't be a focus in 41, but killing Ruskies and taking manpower. Some loss of morale will have to happen. ???


Vs most russian players getting more then 3 million KIA is not possible.

So your main goals are to take Leningrad and the south and build morale. Morale is the key to 1942 and the game.

These should be your main goals because they are easly doable and puts you in a good position for 1942-1945.

There is far more manpower centers in the south then Moscow+Leningrad and easly takable because of terrain.

The crippling effects of over reaching can be seen in the AAR Q-ball vs Tarhunnas.

Pelton

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15 games ended in 41 (15-0-0)
7 games ended in 42 (5-0-2)
8 games ended in 43 (2-3-3)
4 games ended in 44 (0-1-3)


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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/31/2012 10:18:46 AM   
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A good example of what to do is Pelton vs M60. I only had 3 million kia and did not bother holding Moscow or anyland for that matter.

Poeple thought I was nuts for not fighting more for the land. I took other good german players advice and knew I could easly take back the land and allot more if I conserved my forses for 1942.

The game is based mostly on morale and AP pts at this time. Thats why I was in no rush to finish off the huge pocket I had vs 8421 until Nov 41.

1941 is setting the table for 42.

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8 games ended in 43 (2-3-3)
4 games ended in 44 (0-1-3)


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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/31/2012 10:45:54 AM   
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I would caution to over generalize as many "truths" depend on player action and reaction. Different skill levels etc... should also not be underestimated.

I'm very convinced that a first class German CAN win the game in 1941 even if he has to create his own opportunity (ie the Russian isn't giving him much).
all depends on when to fight and when to retreat as the Russian, staying in one position just a turn to long can be deadly.

Anyway, putting everything in boxes is tempting, but I think there is enough randomness to the system to expect a large amount of variation on the outcome depending on what actually happens.

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RE: Pelton vs JV - 1/31/2012 1:49:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: glvaca

I would caution to over generalize as many "truths" depend on player action and reaction. Different skill levels etc... should also not be underestimated.

I'm very convinced that a first class German CAN win the game in 1941 even if he has to create his own opportunity (ie the Russian isn't giving him much).
all depends on when to fight and when to retreat as the Russian, staying in one position just a turn to long can be deadly.

Anyway, putting everything in boxes is tempting, but I think there is enough randomness to the system to expect a large amount of variation on the outcome depending on what actually happens.


Being 8-0-0 in 1941 I know what your saying, but the standard vs and equal player is Leningrad/south/morale and even then its possible to win if the russian player does something stupid like burn up his trucks during 41/42 winter ect ect.

Sure getting a win in 1941 rocks and is doable as I and many others have done.

I did not build a box, other did.

Pelton


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7 games ended in 42 (5-0-2)
8 games ended in 43 (2-3-3)
4 games ended in 44 (0-1-3)


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RE: Pelton vs JV - 2/1/2012 9:23:40 PM   
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Sorry for peeking,

I just realized this is the game I am playing with GP. I was just browsing and pondering if I should report of this game something as well. Now you go on here :)

Luckily you have not posted last three turns so I shouldn't get too much intel. But I'd like to ask if I am welcome to read this or is it against common courtesy or your will, in which case I wont peek in again?

P.S. It would be very very interesting what you are going to post of this new STAVKA deviced partisan tactics utilizing those paradrop brigades in a small field test? I got the idea for it from the reports that Germany is only building three raillines to east (of which the center line has splitting into two), without connecting those into a unified network. There is some suspicion in the air but I'll put it bluntly. Has Hitler in his zeal disbanded small railroad repair units in the east to accumulate those horrific manpower pools Germany seems to start generating?


P.S. Couldn't help myself from inserting this screen capture from the Turn 9 as there might be a response for lightning advance of German supply with doubled FDB's on one rail.





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RE: Pelton vs JV - 2/1/2012 9:51:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Savanniperkele

Sorry for peeking,

I just realized this is the game I am playing with GP. I was just browsing and pondering if I should report of this game something as well. Now you go on here :)

Luckily you have not posted last three turns so I shouldn't get too much intel. But I'd like to ask if I am welcome to read this or is it against common courtesy or your will, in which case I wont peek in again?

P.S. It would be very very interesting what you are going to post of this new STAVKA deviced partisan tactics utilizing those paradrop brigades in a small field test? I got the idea for it from the reports that Germany is only building three raillines to east (of which the center line has splitting into two), without connecting those into a unified network. There is some suspicion in the air but I'll put it bluntly. Has Hitler in his zeal disbanded small railroad repair units in the east to accumulate those horrific manpower pools Germany seems to start generating?


P.S. Couldn't help myself from inserting this screen capture from the Turn 9 as there might be a response for lightning advance of German supply with doubled FDB's on one rail.






Yes very nice move


Feel free to read and post as you like I generally stay 2 turns back unless I am up to something good for me and bad for you heheh.

Fun game for sure.

Pelton

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7 games ended in 42 (5-0-2)
8 games ended in 43 (2-3-3)
4 games ended in 44 (0-1-3)


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RE: Pelton vs JV - 2/1/2012 9:53:54 PM   
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I dont post anything good like that drop because someone esle will do it to

Post what ever and read thread as much as you like.

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15 games ended in 41 (15-0-0)
7 games ended in 42 (5-0-2)
8 games ended in 43 (2-3-3)
4 games ended in 44 (0-1-3)


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RE: Pelton vs JV - 2/1/2012 10:28:17 PM   
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that's my standard before blizzard 

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RE: Pelton vs JV - 2/13/2012 1:44:54 AM   
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Turn 9
German Arm PTs in pool= 36,000
German Manpower in pool= 160,000
Russian units destroyed after November 1st 1941 =
Russian losses this turn: 215,000 Total dead: 1,511,000
Russian OOB: 4,390,000
A net gain of: 0 men
Russian units currently in a pocket:
GHC OOB: 3,285,000
GHC net OOB change:0





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GHC
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15 games ended in 41 (15-0-0)
7 games ended in 42 (5-0-2)
8 games ended in 43 (2-3-3)
4 games ended in 44 (0-1-3)


General Cheesefinder of WitW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afmyypGyfng&list=PLrY4H4gWWBircAjo

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RE: Pelton vs JV - 2/13/2012 1:45:31 AM   
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AGC




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22 - 4 - 8

15 games ended in 41 (15-0-0)
7 games ended in 42 (5-0-2)
8 games ended in 43 (2-3-3)
4 games ended in 44 (0-1-3)


General Cheesefinder of WitW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afmyypGyfng&list=PLrY4H4gWWBircAjo

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