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Baltic States and the German aggresion? - 12/29/2011 8:16:55 PM   
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We all know that at the menace of German aggression, Lithuania decided to give Memel region.

What would happen if the Germany will really entered into Baltic States after victory over Poland.
This is of course a pure violation of R-M Pact, but let's leave the direct Soviet's reaction on the side now.

How do you think what would those countries do:
Surrender?
Ask Allies for help?
Ask Soviets for help?
Offer joining to Axis?
Fight lonely?
Create an alliance and fight together?
Other ideas?
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RE: Baltic States and the German aggresion? - 12/29/2011 8:36:55 PM   
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I don't know too much about the leadership at the time, but were I in the very bad situation the only chance for any kind of national survival would be to ask the Soviets to intervene. Fighting alone or as a group would be pretty futile unless the USSR became involved. The 'National Will' to resist is very fickle and dificult to gage unless tested. Based on the behavior when confronted by the USSR I expect they would fold to the Germans if no help from the USSR were forthcoming.

Horrible choice Stalin or Hitler (I think I like the ferry to Stockholm option best...)

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RE: Baltic States and the German aggresion? - 12/29/2011 8:50:21 PM   
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I haven't read much on this but they would rather fight and ask for Soviet help. Wasn't the Baltic states aware of the MR pact? If they were then they would fight.

I do believe there would be an Baltic Alliance to fight.


This probability of Germany violating the MR pact should be zero for AI, as Hitler had future plans.




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RE: Baltic States and the German aggresion? - 12/29/2011 9:51:21 PM   
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I agree its a pretty unlikely scenario (breaking the pact), Stalin would have gone balllistic GE would not break the pact until they were ready to fight. But this is the place for unlikely scenarios, a truely realistic portrayal of WW2 would not be too much fun.

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RE: Baltic States and the German aggresion? - 12/29/2011 10:10:43 PM   
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It seems extremely unlikely that they would have asked for Soviet help in the event of a German move to occupy the Baltic States. The Lithuanians were very anti-Soviet, even continuing a guerrilla war against the USSR until 1953. They would have more likely asked for support from the western allies, although it would have been virtually impossible for the allies to come to their aid.

As far as them forming an alliance amongst themselves that also seems to be unlikely. As they did not attempt any such thing when the Soviets occupied them under the M-R pact.


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RE: Baltic States and the German aggresion? - 12/29/2011 11:20:59 PM   
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I agree with Lascar.  There was a heavy German influence along the Baltic cities, especially on the coasts.  Recalling the history of the area , the Baltic states generally turned toward the west to maintain semi-autonomy from Muscovite and later Tsarist control...

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