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OT Isoroku Yamamoto movie review - 12/29/2011 4:19:55 PM   
Vetamur

 

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Hi guys... most of you dont know me. I was a one time player of WITP whose life just doesnt let him play anymore because I cant be around to do turns consistantly enough.

Anyway.. Im an American but I live in Japan.. 16 years now.

I see some had mentioned the movie on Isoroku Yamamoto that was released here on Dec.23rd and thought I would chime in on it.

The CG is pretty good..not seamless, but good to maintain your suspension of disbelief. The scene covering the attack on Pearl Harbor is brief considering its significance, but looks better for my money than anything Ive seen before.

Fans of this game will like the battle scenes, and like me lament they are too brief (and that is saying a lot because Im not an action movie junkie by any means).

Some things disappointed me. Modern Japanese just cant keep an enormous amount of contrived sappiness out of their movies. The death scene of Yamamoto is over wrought, unrealistic and rather cheapens the movie. There are some easy lapses into stereotypes. Some things that never happened are put in.. rather large events.

And some scenes that seem meant for the big screen ..never happen. Yamamoto threatening to resign his position if the Pearl Harbor raid isnt approved is an important character note, a dramatic moment.. a real life dramatic moment that a capable director would love to set.. Inexplicably, this never happens in the movie.

I dont know if the movie will get released on some level outside of the country.. but it is a must see for fans of the game just for the historical accuracy and small hints of how things are on the Japanese home front. It is MILES AND MILES above the awful "Otokotachi no Yamato" movie from 5 years or so back.. (Men's Yamato...dont know what it got called in English..the movie about the battleship Yamato). That movie made me want to punch someone. I enjoy living in Japan for the most part..but the acting and script writing..and directing in movies since the 1980s is just..bad.
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RE: OT Isoroku Yamamoto movie review - 12/29/2011 4:35:26 PM   
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Hi all,

Thanks for info!

BTW, I did like the "Otoko Tachi No Yamato" because it was about something that never was filmed before (and never showed in the West before)... the historical accuracy was so-so (100% agreed on that) but since it was unique film about unique part of history I can still recommend it...


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RE: OT Isoroku Yamamoto movie review - 12/29/2011 11:40:37 PM   
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Thanks - appreciate the insight - hopefully NetFlix will pick it up at some point

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RE: OT Isoroku Yamamoto movie review - 12/30/2011 12:19:49 AM   
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The Yamato movie was'nt too bad, just an hour too long and the computer CGI was rather crappy on the last battle scene.

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RE: OT Isoroku Yamamoto movie review - 12/30/2011 4:07:48 AM   
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I thought the Yamato movie was awful, and a terrible wasted chance. Instead of a sappy movie with thought processes that match a 1940s Japan, the characters seemed taken from the Japan of today. There is so much in the real Yamato story that would have made a better movie that I couldnt understand the choices made.

The Yamato should have focused been more like this: Part I (where you introduce characters..): The Yamato is secretly built, its huge guns and the guns of its sister ship will ensure victory in the coming war with the West.. build up how its a secret weapon and even have a seen where they note that the West has caught on about the Yamato..but then show relief when its realized the West believe the Yamato has 16 inch guns and is only 45,000 tons. This part of the movie plays almost as spy thriller with the deception being accomplished marking the end of Part 1.

Part 2: The Yamato's plight is shown. You have a discussion about it being too valuable to risk in the Guadal Canal campaign, so it has nothing to do in the war. It slowly but surely starts to be maligned inside the IJN as "Hotel Yamato" as it spends the war parked at Truk, its crew getting top rate rations while the ship does nothing. Desperate to do something the idea of it being at least a carrier escort is floated but then shot down as it would slow down the two best carriers remaining. Finally when the Yamato is allowed out to stretch its legs..it gets torpedoed. The captain and admiralty have long since realized the Yamato was built for the last war.. the crew, once extremely proud of serving on the Fleets flag ship are visibly frustrated at the lack of anything for the secret weapon to do. The end of Part 2: The Yamato is given a chance.. the Leyte Gulf attack. The approach confirms everything people have thought, with the Musashi etc going down do to air attacks.. and just when the Yamato might come into its own..its forced to retired.

Part 3: Resolution. The Yamato moves back to Japan. Its crew visit family and friends. They notice that family and friends seem to be hanging their hat called "hope" on the fact the Yamato still exists. "Kamikaze" mania is hitting Japan.. early on the idea was that fast fighters with trained pilots would be difficult to stop. The idea is evolving into every mans duty is to throw away his life even with little chance of success. The Yamato's crew watches as 16 and 17 year old kids are sent out to be kamikaze pilots flying slow twin engine trainers, worn out Zeros with fuel tank leaks (ensuring they wont even get far enough to see the enemy), etc. Some react in horror.. some react with shame. Finally, even the Yamato and its 2,000+ crew are given a "Special" mission. By this point all are resigned to their fate, some taking it with pride, some with bitterness at being told to throw away their lives for what they know is an impossible task. None ever think to question the order itself however. Cadets are removed (often under protest) from the ship and it goes off on its final mission.

Thats the movie that should have been made. In my opinion.

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RE: OT Isoroku Yamamoto movie review - 9/13/2012 1:59:35 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Vetamur

I thought the Yamato movie was awful, and a terrible wasted chance. Instead of a sappy movie with thought processes that match a 1940s Japan, the characters seemed taken from the Japan of today. There is so much in the real Yamato story that would have made a better movie that I couldnt understand the choices made.

The Yamato should have focused been more like this: Part I (where you introduce characters..): The Yamato is secretly built, its huge guns and the guns of its sister ship will ensure victory in the coming war with the West.. build up how its a secret weapon and even have a seen where they note that the West has caught on about the Yamato..but then show relief when its realized the West believe the Yamato has 16 inch guns and is only 45,000 tons. This part of the movie plays almost as spy thriller with the deception being accomplished marking the end of Part 1.

Part 2: The Yamato's plight is shown. You have a discussion about it being too valuable to risk in the Guadal Canal campaign, so it has nothing to do in the war. It slowly but surely starts to be maligned inside the IJN as "Hotel Yamato" as it spends the war parked at Truk, its crew getting top rate rations while the ship does nothing. Desperate to do something the idea of it being at least a carrier escort is floated but then shot down as it would slow down the two best carriers remaining. Finally when the Yamato is allowed out to stretch its legs..it gets torpedoed. The captain and admiralty have long since realized the Yamato was built for the last war.. the crew, once extremely proud of serving on the Fleets flag ship are visibly frustrated at the lack of anything for the secret weapon to do. The end of Part 2: The Yamato is given a chance.. the Leyte Gulf attack. The approach confirms everything people have thought, with the Musashi etc going down do to air attacks.. and just when the Yamato might come into its own..its forced to retired.

Part 3: Resolution. The Yamato moves back to Japan. Its crew visit family and friends. They notice that family and friends seem to be hanging their hat called "hope" on the fact the Yamato still exists. "Kamikaze" mania is hitting Japan.. early on the idea was that fast fighters with trained pilots would be difficult to stop. The idea is evolving into every mans duty is to throw away his life even with little chance of success. The Yamato's crew watches as 16 and 17 year old kids are sent out to be kamikaze pilots flying slow twin engine trainers, worn out Zeros with fuel tank leaks (ensuring they wont even get far enough to see the enemy), etc. Some react in horror.. some react with shame. Finally, even the Yamato and its 2,000+ crew are given a "Special" mission. By this point all are resigned to their fate, some taking it with pride, some with bitterness at being told to throw away their lives for what they know is an impossible task. None ever think to question the order itself however. Cadets are removed (often under protest) from the ship and it goes off on its final mission.

Thats the movie that should have been made. In my opinion.


Damn straight!

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RE: OT Isoroku Yamamoto movie review - 9/13/2012 3:36:54 AM   
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yes , make that yamato movie and give it 100 or 200 million and make it 2.5 or 3 hours, and it will be a lot better than pearl harbor

that would be an excellent movie

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RE: OT Isoroku Yamamoto movie review - 9/13/2012 5:06:43 AM   
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Very good. Pitch it.

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