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To All members War stories - 12/25/2011 10:24:49 AM   
wodin


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First I'd love it if this thread took off and it was stickied.

OK to all members if you know about a relative and their war experiences be it WW1 or WW2 (or any War\Conflict) it would be great if you could tell us their story or what you know in this thread. Over at the BftB forum some of our German members have written about their grandfathers War and it was very interesting. This will give a voice in away to not only our relatives story but a story about I presume the common soldier.

I'm afraid mine is short and sweet.

In WW1 both my Great Grandads ( My dads Grandads) and a great great Uncle (one of my great Grandads brothers) where in the 7th Kings own Liverpool regt. My Great great Uncle was awarded the Military Medal and was gazetted for it in Oct 1917 so I presume he won it around Passhendaele. Sadly he was killed in April 1918 (During the big german push). Both my great grandads buried him. Funny enough neither my Nan nor Grandad had been born yet and here was their Dads serving together and burying a brother of my nans dad. Returning from the war my my great grandad on my grandads side turned to drink but was a abit of a character I believe and was upto all sorts but a good man.

My Great great Uncle has his name etched on the Menin Gate.

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RE: To All members War stories - 12/26/2011 2:20:10 AM   
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My grandpa was infantryman in the 96.ID before Leningrad..in 1944 I think. He was drafted as "Landesschutze" (overaged reservist), then heavily wounded by a russian mortar shell hitting a tree trunk next to him (heavy head and chest wounds), then evacuated, probably recuperating in his hometown Breslau (Wroclaw, Poland nowaday). He somehow managed to evacuate my family before the russians (my mother was a child at that time) from Breslau to the west, where they were safe til the war ended. Think my grandpa never entered service again and wasn´t POW (due to his woundings). My mom also told they got evacuated in a "tank", although I think it must rather have been a halftrack. She can´t remember precisely. She must´ve been 6 or 7 at that time.

My grandpa also received the iron cross second grade for bravery in some kind of a rearguard action.

He wasn´t able to tell much more, since if he came to his wartime experiences (..mostly asked for by me), my grandma interrupted..not to tell of the darn war! Understandable. I remember him as a very good natured, kind and rather silent man. He died of cancer in the late 80ies.

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RE: To All members War stories - 12/26/2011 2:52:38 AM   
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My father was stationed on a troop transport as a coxsin.  His first taste of action was during the battle of Leyte gulf.  They were at general quarters when a group of jap planes attacked his and other ships within the task force.  He was at his gun station when a jap zero went by not 200feet from them with a american wildcat on his tall.   He said the american pilot was pouring it into him and flamed the japs butt.  The japanese plane went down about a quarter of a mile of their port side.  He Said "I knew Then They Weren't Playing Around Out Here and it was Serious Business".

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RE: To All members War stories - 12/26/2011 4:09:42 AM   
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My grandfather got drafted when the war started, but since he died in 1978, there are few pieces of info regarding his experiences. He used to tell my mother and her siblings a couple of stories when they were kids, it seems like it helped him to cope with the experiences, and the kids also showed some interest in how he fared during the war. I am in the process of putting a few pieces together right now, but I have no accounts covering 1939 or 1940. In 1944, he had received the Iron Cross second class, and the cert states that he was with an Engineer Bn at the time. He went to an agricultural technical school and had worked as mason (I think) before the war, so these skills were probably the determining factors when he was assigned to an engineer unit.

Whatsoever, he was deployed to Norway (not sure whether he participated in the fighting in 1940) in 1940 or 1941, but since he was there for a longer time (at least 1 year), his unit must have been on construction/repair duty (infrastructure/barracks/defense perimeters), as part of the occupation force. There are pictures showing him and his comrades living in a log cabin in the woods, cooking food outside, shaving ... rather pieceful scenes. They enjoyed that time, and he kept talking about Norway enthusiastically, stating how beautiful that country was.

I know he told my mother that he fought in Russia, and looking up some of the records (of what I think may be his unit) seems to point towards a re-deployment either in late 1941 or 1942, to Leningrad.

He was wounded twice.

The first injury occured during an incident in Russia (I think):

One of the unit's soldiers was lying (and probably calling) in the distance, on a field, and severely wounded, but that spot was in range of enemy weapons. Still, when the CO asked for volunteers to save the poor chap, my grandfather and a mate volunteered to get the wounded comrade, they grabbed a stretcher and ran to the fella's position. Once they had put him on the stretcher, and after they had raced towards German lines with the stretcher for some time already, heavy artillery fire kicked in right on the field, with shells exploding all around them, where they then -in that mess- had to drop the stretcher (and the poor chap) to try and make it back to their own positions with lightspeed. IIRC, the bombardment was so fierce, that even their first line started to dissolve or search for shelter, and my grandfather just ran and ran and ran way behind the German line, right to the field hospital, where he then passed out on the spot.

It seems like he had made that sprint with his last ounce of strength, as it turned out that a shrapnel of a shell had hit the back of his head and was stuck there. If it would have travelled a few more millimeters through the bone he would have been done for sure, according to the surgeon.

He was then sent to a hospital in Germany, if I am not mistaken.

Another incident he kept telling his kids, was an occurence of pure luck: If I am not mistaken, he said that he used to attach his helmet to his waist belt (which held it at hip level) in non-combat situations, but suddenly a fire-fight evolved and one of the bullets flying around hit his helmet, basically shooting the helmet off the belt and sending it flying out (in a wide arc). If he would have put on the helmet before the projectile flew his way, it would have torn up his abdomen or his hip bone.

With the second injury, he received a bullet wound in the knee, and he was sent back to a hospital in Bad Nauheim, Germany. The city maintained a popular spa and hospital facilities, which were visited/used by William Randolph Hearst (the US media mogul), Einstein and other VIPs during the 1920s. During WW2, these facilities, along with confiscated hotels, were used as military hospitals, which also housed injured Allied officers. It is believed that this was the reason for the Allies refraining from bombing the city all through the war. It was one of the few rather safe places. My grandfather was captured when American units had reached the hospital (1945 I guess).

On a sidenote, my mother has a birthmark at the very same spot where the bullet entered his knee and of the very same size of his scar (looking like a triangle).

Whatsoever, after being captured in the hospital, he was then transfered to a POW camp in France. Regarding reparations and reconstruction labor, the French and the Russians were probably the most pushy, to say the least, often employing the German POWs in mines, woods or road construction, and particularly in de-mining large areas.
In that camp, my grandfather got word that quite some of the comrades from his camp never returned from their de-mining missions. During a medical routine check the doctor noticed his bulky fingers (an attribute that ran through his family), and was convinced that these were frostbites received during his deployment in Russia.
When asked, my grandfather did not object there, especially with the high fatality rate among the de-miners in mind, so he could skip the de-mining and was sent to a POW camp in the US (Michigan).

As far as I know, the majority of German POWs in Michigan used to be sent out for farm work and road construction. In Michigan, my grandfather sent the usual pre-printed Red Cross POW form to my grandmother, telling her that he would reside in a camp at or in Fort Custer, Michigan. I have not figured the exact location of that Fort yet, my guess is that the Army demolished the base/camp some time after the war.
If someone has an idea how to locate the Fort, it would be much appreciated.

Either before he was transfered to the POW transport ship to the US, or right before he got captured in the hospital, he had managed to pass a postcard to a nurse, who then sent it to my grandmother, telling him that he was alive and on the way to the US, the first sign of life to my granny, who had not heard from him for a long time.

He was then released early (in 1946) and sent home to Germany, and 9 months after his return my mother was born. He brought oranges from Michigan (?), something my Aunt, who was around 5 yrs old when he got back, had never seen before, just like many Germans.
He so liked the country, that he spoke about going there some day. If my grandmother would have been more open-minded, they might have emigrated to the US.

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RE: To All members War stories - 12/26/2011 6:18:55 AM   
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My Father (Born 1920 - Died 1988) served at the eastern Front from 1942 to 1944. He made it into the caucasus and back behind the dnjepr where he was wounded and transfered back to germany. After D-Day he was ordered to the normandy front. After the german retreat he was captured (and wounded once again. Lost one finger and was riddled by grenade splitters) in france in summer 1944 by US forces and was prisoner until 1946. He never talked much about the war. Only very depressing stuff. But he bought me my first wargame =)

The father of a friend (still well and alive) was drafted 1944 and served at the 157.Reservedivision at france which became later the 8.Gebirgsdivision (or was it the 9th. Must ask again). He was also captured by US forces and was one year in the USA as prisoner. 

The father of my accountant (not sure if he is still alive) was Kampfpilot (bomber pilot) from 1943 to 1944. Afterward he was retrained to fly two-mots (Me 110 and 410) and at the end of the war he was retrained again at the FW 190. I talked a lot with him. Weird career. He told me he never dropped a bomb with his He111 and Ju88. Only transfered wounded soldiers from russia to poland and stuff. Later as fighter pilot he didnt saw much action. Lack of fuel was their main problem. A lot of very interesting stories he had. He was captured near Magdeburg in April 1945 by US forces while he marched in a column of refugees.

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RE: To All members War stories - 12/26/2011 4:02:53 PM   
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During the Bulge, my late father -- an NCO in charge of a platoon of Hellcat TDs -- was on foot with 2 other soldiers when they heard a mortar round go off.

An X-ball player, dad said the shell looked like a baseball as it arced back down to earth; he yelled "hit the dirt" as went into the prone position, but the other two only dropped to one knee.

The pair never got back up; we lost a lot of green troops in wartime.

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RE: To All members War stories - 12/27/2011 4:45:15 PM   
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My grandmother was a courier for the partisans. One early morning, while hiding out in a safe house with another member of the resistance, the farmer burst in and told them to grab their things because the Germans were on their way. She looked out the window and sure enough she saw several trucks disgorging troopers into the yard. She and the other guy slipped out the back and started running across the fields towards the forest.

They were spotted about halfway across and the soldiers began to fire at them. The man she was with took a bullet and fell. My grandmother just kept sprinting in her nightgown, holding the courier bag for dear life. She made it to the forest, took a look back to see the farmhouse on fire and a pursuit party heading across the fields toward her. She kept running, deeper and deeper until she lost them. When she had a chance to rest she said she counted three bullet holes in her nightgown.

After that she couldn't be a courier any more because she was "burnt". The Germans had her name and likeness and a copy of her ID so she couldn't pass among the population any more. The resistance passed word around and soon enough a man was found who would marry my grandmother sight unseen so she could have a new name and new papers. They met, got married, she got a new name and identity and they spent the rest of the war safely. Soon after the war my grandmother gave birth to my mother.

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