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How to create Tank Armies? - 12/21/2011 6:13:56 PM   
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Sorry, but I could not find this on the manual. How do you create Soviet Tank Armies and when?

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RE: How to create Tank Armies? - 12/21/2011 6:23:00 PM   
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July 42 they become available. Build like any other army- in or next to urban/city hex.

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RE: How to create Tank Armies? - 12/21/2011 6:30:34 PM   
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They cost a bunch of APs. Kind of annoying, because there are plenty of "regular" Army HQs around, but I like to have Tank Armies.

25 APs, though it does come with a bunch of SU's attached for "Free".

That doesnt' include the cost of firing the crappy leader it might come with, and replacing him with someone decent. I like the guys who are high Mech-rating but average otherwise, like Rybalko or Batov

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RE: How to create Tank Armies? - 12/21/2011 6:36:32 PM   
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I see, thank you very much

I don't want to start a flame war (after all I started this thread) but... who said Soviets have tons of APs, that shifting units from command x and y is easy?? Utterly false

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RE: How to create Tank Armies? - 12/21/2011 9:13:50 PM   
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Hello

a small side note:

Normaly the ai attach SU for the new Tank army (which costs also some ap if you have some) and you also need some arments points to fill this unit. (e.g. if you have 50 ap points the ai spends not 25 point to create this army but so round about 30-35 or so to ccreate this army and some SU.

You also need some pints for an new leader. So all it costs you round about 40-50 ap to build one Trank Army. (excluding costs for attaching units which are not attach to STAVKA HQ)

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RE: How to create Tank Armies? - 12/21/2011 9:17:03 PM   
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You also need some pints for an new leader.

Pints for the new liter?

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RE: How to create Tank Armies? - 12/21/2011 10:04:39 PM   
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You also need some pints for an new leader.

Pints for the new liter?


No, no, by that time you are out of USSR generals (Stalin has shot most of them), and you need to hire British ones

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RE: How to create Tank Armies? - 12/21/2011 11:07:41 PM   
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Any benefit to a tank army over combined arms?

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RE: How to create Tank Armies? - 12/21/2011 11:20:03 PM   
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When a motorized unit is performing an admin leader check, leaders of Tank Army, Panzer Army, or Panzer Corps HQ units involved in the admin leader check receive a +1 to their admin rating during the check.

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RE: How to create Tank Armies? - 12/21/2011 11:56:27 PM   
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Hi

Yes pints...vodka isn`t good enough to entice a good general to do this job :)

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ORIGINAL: Omat

You also need some pints for an new leader.

Pints for the new liter?



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RE: How to create Tank Armies? - 12/22/2011 12:12:43 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Omat

Hello

a small side note:

Normaly the ai attach SU for the new Tank army (which costs also some ap if you have some) and you also need some arments points to fill this unit. (e.g. if you have 50 ap points the ai spends not 25 point to create this army but so round about 30-35 or so to ccreate this army and some SU.

You also need some pints for an new leader. So all it costs you round about 40-50 ap to build one Trank Army. (excluding costs for attaching units which are not attach to STAVKA HQ)

Omat



I recently created a couple tank army hq's and paid only 25 points. they came with a bunch of SU that I am pretty sure I did not have to pay ap's for, but I will double check

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RE: How to create Tank Armies? - 12/22/2011 1:34:10 AM   
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It's 25 APs, and a number of SU's come free of charge with the unit. Not all of them are SU's you really want, though.

Unlike Rifle Corps, they don't go on sale at any date

And you might have to change the leader, costing additional APs

But Tank Armies are cool

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RE: How to create Tank Armies? - 12/22/2011 9:17:29 AM   
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Hello

I had this. But I also have to admit that I had little bit more that 100 ap. And the first two Tank Armies cost more than 25 ap`s. But I also saw that the number of SU is not always the same. So maybe the extra Su are the difference.

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Omat

Hello

a small side note:

Normaly the ai attach SU for the new Tank army (which costs also some ap if you have some) and you also need some arments points to fill this unit. (e.g. if you have 50 ap points the ai spends not 25 point to create this army but so round about 30-35 or so to ccreate this army and some SU.

You also need some pints for an new leader. So all it costs you round about 40-50 ap to build one Trank Army. (excluding costs for attaching units which are not attach to STAVKA HQ)

Omat



I recently created a couple tank army hq's and paid only 25 points. they came with a bunch of SU that I am pretty sure I did not have to pay ap's for, but I will double check



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RE: How to create Tank Armies? - 12/22/2011 6:36:06 PM   
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So what are the benefits of a Combined Arms HQ?  Trying to figure out what HQs a Soviet player should be creating later in games (43+)

Thanks

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RE: How to create Tank Armies? - 12/22/2011 6:48:55 PM   
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A CAA is a fancy name for a regular army.

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RE: How to create Tank Armies? - 12/22/2011 6:54:57 PM   
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Doh, ok was thinking that. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on something cool.

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