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Not sure how it would work but wouldn't some kind of dynamic VP point system that changes during the seasons\years help mitigate these issues? That way lest say if the germans are being forced back the VP system realises that during that period it is mostly likely the case so the VP award changes to mstch this, aswell as having different VP's for each side (this may already be the case).
Anyway i expect it's a stupid idea. Just something that popped into my head.
Not a stupid idea Wodin, it's just something which has been discussed to death :)
BG, I agree the game needs to be adjusted to address one dimensional killer ideas; but the ideas need to be actually discussed and tried out in order to identify what are the potential problems.
This cavalry thing has been talked about for a very long time, as far back as beta. And unlike Pieter I lean towards nerfing, have for some time. They're the most mobile units in the Red Army and can actually conduct sustained marches because they can easily get at or near their maximum MPs. Last time I played out a full solo game they more or less won the game for me and led the march to Berlin, while the mighty tank and mech corps struggled for gas. They are not even that much weaker in TOE terms down the line. A fully tricked out 43 Guards Cavalry Corps has CVs in the mid teens.
Of course they need to be discussed. But I couldn't help the "face palm moment". Now we have Pelton entering the "Soviet Pig Cavalry" crusade. It'll keep the forum lively, indeed, but it gets old with me.
And indeed Cavalry was a premium asset for the Red Army. But it wasn't their only effective asset.
I fully agree with you, B_G, except that I would stress that a full blooded Axis Panzer offensive commencing in March '42 is simply inconceivable. Having to invent a-historical responses to such blatantly a-historical events is ridiculous. I don't have an issue being knocked back beyond Stalingrad and losing Baku in the summer, but in March????
No, I don't think it is as it should be. The measures involved are quite ahistorical and concede an offensive capacity to the Germans they simply didn't have and couldn't have had for supply reasons alone.
The real situation, without any special measures, ought to be a stalemate where both sides flop over in exhaustion.
The Soviet can manage this march madness, sure. He shouldn't have to. Things ought to naturally grind to a halt. Instead, he has to work against the grain of the system merely to prevent having entire fronts going into POW cages in March. I listed the measures uptopic, and they're fairly steep requirements and not at all what was done in real life.
That's what I wanted to hear: some sense.
Sorry to everybody if I sounded as a hyperbolic curmudgeon, I guess I take too seriously WitE. I still think it's the best portrayal of the Eastern Front at this level, but I don't understand certain recent development decisions. I just see the discussions here go and go in circles, and nothing being done at all.
It's a bit frustrating, and I would really like to help... but how?