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New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/8/2011 11:09:29 PM   
barker


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Status: offline 		Gentlemen.

I have been patient enough and now it has worn thin.

From this point on, any posts not related to the Campaign Series or Modern Wars will be outright deleted.

Any posts that relate to the Campaign Series or Modern Wars but do not help the progress of the games will be outright deleted.

Jason Petho


< Message edited by Jason Petho -- 12/9/2011 7:37:56 AM >



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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/8/2011 11:18:57 PM   
barker


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Status: offline 		I asked the following questions and each time the thread got deleted by the moderator
1. Is this new policy for JTCS or accross all boards?
2. Is this Policy Matrix Sanctioned?
3. If there are legitimate question on how rules should work will this be deleted?
4. Will previous post that do not adhere to this directive that is also evidently sponsored by Matrix be deleted?
5. If the questions or concerns that are deemed to be good for CS will that be deleted?

These questions were deleted 4 times within seconds of posting.

Marc

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1. AGEOD Blue and Gray
2. John Tiller's Battleground Series
3. Combat Mission: Beyond Overlord
4. Combat Mission: Barbarossa to Berlin
5. V for Victory Games
6. Silent Hunter III
7. Silent Hunter IV
8. Rise and Fall of the Third Re

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/8/2011 11:22:27 PM   
barker


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Status: offline 		tried to post a question - that all threads on the board should adhere to the new policy....it was deleted

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2. John Tiller's Battleground Series
3. Combat Mission: Beyond Overlord
4. Combat Mission: Barbarossa to Berlin
5. V for Victory Games
6. Silent Hunter III
7. Silent Hunter IV
8. Rise and Fall of the Third Re

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/8/2011 11:23:35 PM   
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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/8/2011 11:24:21 PM   
barker


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2. John Tiller's Battleground Series
3. Combat Mission: Beyond Overlord
4. Combat Mission: Barbarossa to Berlin
5. V for Victory Games
6. Silent Hunter III
7. Silent Hunter IV
8. Rise and Fall of the Third Re

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/8/2011 11:25:43 PM   
barker


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1. AGEOD Blue and Gray
2. John Tiller's Battleground Series
3. Combat Mission: Beyond Overlord
4. Combat Mission: Barbarossa to Berlin
5. V for Victory Games
6. Silent Hunter III
7. Silent Hunter IV
8. Rise and Fall of the Third Re

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/8/2011 11:56:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

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me too.....

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/8/2011 11:59:05 PM   
barker


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2. John Tiller's Battleground Series
3. Combat Mission: Beyond Overlord
4. Combat Mission: Barbarossa to Berlin
5. V for Victory Games
6. Silent Hunter III
7. Silent Hunter IV
8. Rise and Fall of the Third Re

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 12:24:16 AM   
barker


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Status: offline 		I did find this about policy from Matrix but did get a support ticket for this issue.

All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of Matrix Games Forums or ASP Playground (developers of the forum software) will be held responsible for the content of any message.

Although the administrators and moderators of the Matrix Games Forums will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. Please use the report button, IM, PM or email the admins to bring it to attention. The forum policies apply to ALL of the Matrix forums and all forum users. There is to be no spamming, trolling, personal insults, vulgarity, bigotry, profanity or porn. Inappropriate language or conduct can lead to a short vacation or outright dismissal from Matrix. All topics and behavior that is deemed unsuitable or improper will be locked with an explanation given as to why.

Note in this policy it should emphasized that threads should be locked. No where does it state deleted

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games:
1. AGEOD Blue and Gray
2. John Tiller's Battleground Series
3. Combat Mission: Beyond Overlord
4. Combat Mission: Barbarossa to Berlin
5. V for Victory Games
6. Silent Hunter III
7. Silent Hunter IV
8. Rise and Fall of the Third Re

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 12:59:45 AM   
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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 1:06:46 AM   
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"Matrix Games is solely responsible for creating, hosting, and maintaining this message board. This is a private board and shall not be used for anyone personal causes.

Matrix Games.com reserves the right to ban any person from this message board which it has determined to be in violation or simply just for the good of the overall community. Matrix Games also reserves the right to delete or remove any post on our message board."

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 1:52:26 AM   
Deputy

 

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Status: offline 		I wonder what Matrix definition of "trolling" is. Considering some forum members use that charge for any post they don't like or agree with. Does the moderator decide if it's trolling or does he count how many people accuse someone of it? Also, when exactly is Matrix going to enforce these rules? At the John Tillers Campaign Series, they just deleted a bunch of posts that now makes one of the threads look like mumbo jumbo. And there are STILL people violating the rules even though everyone else has seen the light.

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 1:57:22 AM   
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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 1:59:18 AM   
barker


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ORIGINAL: barker

tried to post a question - that all threads on the board should adhere to the new policy....it was deleted

quote:

I asked the following questions and each time the thread got deleted by the moderator
1. Is this new policy for JTCS or accross all boards?
2. Is this Policy Matrix Sanctioned?
3. If there are legitimate question on how rules should work will this be deleted?
4. Will previous post that do not adhere to this directive that is also evidently sponsored by Matrix be deleted?
5. If the questions or concerns that are deemed to be good for CS will that be deleted?

These questions were deleted 4 times within seconds of posting.

Marc



Note this were the questions that got deleted that was 7 times

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1. AGEOD Blue and Gray
2. John Tiller's Battleground Series
3. Combat Mission: Beyond Overlord
4. Combat Mission: Barbarossa to Berlin
5. V for Victory Games
6. Silent Hunter III
7. Silent Hunter IV
8. Rise and Fall of the Third Re

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 1:59:29 AM   
MrRoadrunner


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Status: offline 		I'm one hundred percent behind Jason and the new forum policy.

What should be discussed is Matrix JTCS?
It is Jason's forum to moderate as he sees fit?
To much has the forum denigrated into hissy fits by those who want to not discuss Matrix JTCS or the new version 1.05 patch?

Good job Jason. I posted on the forums too (so if you want to delete my thread, fine by me).

RR


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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 1:59:59 AM   
barker


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1. AGEOD Blue and Gray
2. John Tiller's Battleground Series
3. Combat Mission: Beyond Overlord
4. Combat Mission: Barbarossa to Berlin
5. V for Victory Games
6. Silent Hunter III
7. Silent Hunter IV
8. Rise and Fall of the Third Re

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 2:00:58 AM   
tide1530

 

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Status: offline 		Well Barker seeing that this is your post I can tell you after reading the refuse being posted last week and other refuse that might of been deleted this week that I didn't get to read, and that's not only from you of course. I can see why the Mod would finaly get around to punitive measures.

Peace and a Merry Christmas to all
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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 2:02:23 AM   
barker


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Status: offline 		RR you were the main one stirring the pot just like over at the Blitz that got a dismissal. Not saying aything about that nor the speculation. None of my business. You were the one cursing people on the threads. Now the threads were deleted cannot report it so it is safe for you now. Me I just don't think it is right that a thread of questions got deleted.

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games:
1. AGEOD Blue and Gray
2. John Tiller's Battleground Series
3. Combat Mission: Beyond Overlord
4. Combat Mission: Barbarossa to Berlin
5. V for Victory Games
6. Silent Hunter III
7. Silent Hunter IV
8. Rise and Fall of the Third Re

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 2:04:07 AM   
barker


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Status: offline 		I had a few words I am human but I did not keep stirring the stew. I asked several times to please let's keep on track with thread. 1.02b additions

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2. John Tiller's Battleground Series
3. Combat Mission: Beyond Overlord
4. Combat Mission: Barbarossa to Berlin
5. V for Victory Games
6. Silent Hunter III
7. Silent Hunter IV
8. Rise and Fall of the Third Re

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 2:18:13 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: barker

RR you were the main one stirring the pot just like over at the Blitz that got a dismissal. Not saying aything about that nor the speculation. None of my business. You were the one cursing people on the threads. Now the threads were deleted cannot report it so it is safe for you now. Me I just don't think it is right that a thread of questions got deleted.


LOL!

Barker get your facts straight. I did not get a dismissal from The Blitz. I was banned for a cause issued by the Campaign Series Ladder Commander. You might not understand but it is by the will of the Ladder Commander that I was banned. It had nothing to do with any of the speculation that went around the Matrix CS forum.

Safe? Why not report this post? It would have as much meaning as reporting any of the deleted posts, mine or yours? Heck, anyone can report any one else's post, can't they?

When all the false accusations and inferences were deleted because the did not relate to Matrix JTCS, I simply do not fit into your agenda now?

It's up to you to play nice or shut up?
Others have apologized for getting it wrong? How about you?
My business is my business. It is none of your business, is it now?

Unless you see this post as "stirring the pot", stand up and be counted or be bowled over by a mod that will delete your posts. It is really your choice now?

It is why I support Jason's decision and his efforts to keep the trolling post down.

Regards,

RR

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 2:45:36 AM   
JW

 

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 3:26:23 AM   
barker


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2. John Tiller's Battleground Series
3. Combat Mission: Beyond Overlord
4. Combat Mission: Barbarossa to Berlin
5. V for Victory Games
6. Silent Hunter III
7. Silent Hunter IV
8. Rise and Fall of the Third Re

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 3:31:31 AM   
barker


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Status: offline 		It really is none of my business...I respect that heck RR as far as I Know is a good guy. We had different opinion on a version of game but hey that is life. He is very knowledgable on several subjects which is great. You just don't need to slap degridation on people you don't know. Yes I said he gets a bit excited and may need a proza but heck everyone gets excited when they talk about something they are enamoured (typo probably) with. All I am asking is clarification on Forum Rules that is it no more and no less

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1. AGEOD Blue and Gray
2. John Tiller's Battleground Series
3. Combat Mission: Beyond Overlord
4. Combat Mission: Barbarossa to Berlin
5. V for Victory Games
6. Silent Hunter III
7. Silent Hunter IV
8. Rise and Fall of the Third Re

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 4:10:21 AM   
Deputy

 

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ORIGINAL: jomni

Just curious.  what sort of threads are these?


Okay, here's an example: I made files available for download of an older patch/version of the game (1.02B). For it I was tag-teamed by Mr. Roadrunner and mwest. I never said everyone should download the files. I simply made them available for those who might want them. They are rather difficult to obtain, so others on the forum who had the files sent them to me. I use BOTH the newest patch (which is 1.04, NOT 1.05) as well as version 1.02B. There are certain modifications that were made to the game in newer patches that some folks aren't crazy about. So now they have the choice of using the newest patch or an older version. You can see the results for yourself here:

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2964294&mpage=1&key=?

BTW..I am the one that asked the mod to lock it down.

< Message edited by Deputy -- 12/9/2011 4:14:35 AM >

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 10:58:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JW
So let's see if I have this straight.  Some cat fight posts were removed from a game forum and the cat fight has now moved to the general forum where it will soon be reined in?  Is that about it?


It was not quite a cat fight. "Others" tried to do a pile on with unfounded accusations and recriminations. Those were scrubbed.
But, it should have been reigned in there, and I am sure it will be here too.

No problem with anyone discussing version 1.02. Though, from a poll taken, version 1.04 is the hands down winner. It contains features and benefits of play that most players want.

On the CS forum, my post answering your question would be met by the "cats" who wanted to parse my words and push forward their agendas.

For those interested I did not kick the cat, I did not murder anyone, and I did not drive my car the wrong way down a one way street.



RR

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 11:46:57 AM   
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What is this world coming too?????

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 11:49:59 AM   
mwest


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Deputy

Okay, here's an example: I made files available for download of an older patch/version of the game (1.02B). For it I was tag-teamed by Mr. Roadrunner and mwest. I never said everyone should download the files. I simply made them available for those who might want them. They are rather difficult to obtain, so others on the forum who had the files sent them to me. I use BOTH the newest patch (which is 1.04, NOT 1.05) as well as version 1.02B. There are certain modifications that were made to the game in newer patches that some folks aren't crazy about. So now they have the choice of using the newest patch or an older version. BTW..I am the one that asked the mod to lock it down.


Nobody stated that players should not download version 1.02B game patch?

I simply listed the functionality, units, nations, and rules that players would lose by reverting to an older patch.

Finally, I listed the numerous software bugs that players would inherit by reverting to a down level and unsupported game patch - version 1.02B.


< Message edited by mwest -- 12/9/2011 11:50:54 AM >

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 1:53:03 PM   
Deputy

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mwest

quote:

ORIGINAL: Deputy

Okay, here's an example: I made files available for download of an older patch/version of the game (1.02B). For it I was tag-teamed by Mr. Roadrunner and mwest. I never said everyone should download the files. I simply made them available for those who might want them. They are rather difficult to obtain, so others on the forum who had the files sent them to me. I use BOTH the newest patch (which is 1.04, NOT 1.05) as well as version 1.02B. There are certain modifications that were made to the game in newer patches that some folks aren't crazy about. So now they have the choice of using the newest patch or an older version. BTW..I am the one that asked the mod to lock it down.


Nobody stated that players should not download version 1.02B game patch?

I simply listed the functionality, units, nations, and rules that players would lose by reverting to an older patch.

Finally, I listed the numerous software bugs that players would inherit by reverting to a down level and unsupported game patch - version 1.02B.



None of which made any difference to someone who wanted version 1.02B. Those that want the earlier version want it BECAUSE they don't have the "features" of the newer version. And support for the older patch isn't necessary because it works fine as is. The "bugs" you mentioned are inconsequential to those who use the patch. People download 1.02B because of what it DOESN'T have. 1.02B is much closer to the "classic" Talonsoft version of the game, which is what some folks prefer.

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 2:00:33 PM   
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Your post was deleted from a forum and you've decided to post it in the General Discussion forum..

I'm actually very glad the JTCS is still going strong

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RE: New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix - 12/9/2011 2:04:07 PM   
Deputy

 

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ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

Exactly my point with my post about the thread - it's bordering on spam.

Your post was deleted from a forum and you've decided to post it in the General Discussion forum..

I'm actually very glad the JTCS is still going strong


Are you talking to me????

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