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Good afternoon all.

We have finally come to agreement on HRs and intial setup...

I am pleased to announce that..

bilbow and hartwig.modrow have agreed to take command of the Empire of Japan, while denisonh, nasvillen, and myself will man the Allied side of things.

I am under the impression Bill and Hartwig will be doing an AAR from their side possibly, which we will not be viewing...

I will mention later how we plan on splitting commands and such up on our part. I am not sure what Bill and Hartwig are doing, maybe a Navy/Army thing... seems like the popular thing to do.

This will be Scenario 2 with the latest beta.

Realism options:
FOW - ON
Advanced Weather – ON
Allied Damage Control - ON
PDU - ON
Historical First Turn - OFF
Dec 7 Surprise - ON
Reliable USN Torpedoes - OFF
Realistic R&D - OFF
No Unit Withdrawals - OFF
Reinforcements - VARIABLE +/- 60 Days

Game options:
Combat Reports - ON
Auto Sub Ops - OFF
TF Move Radius – OFF
Plane Move Radius - OFF
Facilities Expand at Start - OFF
Auto Upgrade Ships and Air groups - OFF
Air and Ground Replacements - OFF
Turn Cycle - 1 DAY

House rules:
Allies can only give orders to existing TFs on turn 1. (Force Z may be re-directed.)
LCUs in China can be moved on turn 1
Only one KB port strike on turn 1. Any location.
No 4E bombing below 10k ft (except for NAVY 4Es)
Invasions of base or dot hexes only.
No sub invasions.
Units with permanently restricted HQ’s must not cross national borders.
Units with temporarily restricted HQ’s must pay full PP to transfer to non-restricted HQs before moving across national Border.
No switching land unit HQ to unrestricted air HQs etc. or any other gamey variation to do this cheaply.
Max sweep and CAP are at second best maneuver band.
IJN forces can't go into the shaded region next to the entry/exit points of Off map bases.
ASW task force 4 ship max.
Japanese cannot invade deep in allied territory 1st turn. (Within LBA fighter coverage).
No city *or night* bombing under 20,000 ft.
Para units must be whole before para droppping.
No Allied Air or naval units in Russia are allowed, even if Russia is activated.
No more then one 4E Squadron may operate from a single base in China.
No strategic bombing in China and no strategic bombing out of China till 6/44. Jap/Allies
Japanese units from Kwantung may not move anywhere until PP will be paid to change commands the same goes for China Exp Force but Units belonging to China Command may move to Kwantung freely.
Japanese Mongolian Cav Divisions are excluded from this rule.
Chinese units may not leave China unless PP are paid to change their command.
Japanese cannot use units from Kwantung outside Manchuria unless they transfer them and pay the PPs.

This may seem like a lot of HRs.. but it really isn't. It seems to be pretty standard, and we all agreed that we don't want to be doing anything gamey. Not that would anyways, we just wanted to put everything in fine print.

More to follow...


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Good luck and have fun, fella's!  
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The title sounds like some kind of orgy - virgins and 3 on 2 and what not.  Is Cap Mandrake in charge?
 
Despite the carnal visions inspired, may you guys have loads of fun.  Good luck!
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Haha - it was a crude attempt at humor on the book by that exact title my wife is currently reading. She's big into that smut crap...
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The tales of a 3 on 2 was my addition. [:)]
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My dear and very proper Grandmother had a similar weakness for "bodice rippers." I remember she once was caught reading a love story set in the Mexican-American War entitled "Love is a Wild Assault." Very shocking stuff, but she lived to be 100 and didn't much care what we younguns thought.

The idea of a team game is interesting to me. Less time pressure and a built in sounding board for ideas.
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Subscribed! Looking forward to seeing both sides!
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I think it will be great.
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My dear and very proper Grandmother had a similar weakness for "bodice rippers." I remember she once was caught reading a love story set in the Mexican-American War entitled "Love is a Wild Assault." Very shocking stuff, but she lived to be 100 and didn't much care what we younguns thought.

The idea of a team game is interesting to me. Less time pressure and a built in sounding board for ideas.

Wife-o always says the males are "romantic" in it.... I just tell her any man is rommantic when a girl's legs are that alergic to each other...
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Basically, our plan is stop the Japanese... and take back what we lose in 42/43... nothing major.
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Have to qualify the "stop japanese" phrase. Skilled Japanese players can refocus and do things that the Allies can do little to stop initially, but even in scenario 2 cannot do everything at once without assuming some risk. Key is to determine where they are taking risk and strike/defend.

A good example is PM. If the Japanese bring it, they have it. The question is how much do you want to lose for what gain, and if he brings a bunch including CVs, where is he taking risk to achieve this Course of Action.

Those are the questions that will arise relatively quickly in the first month of the game.
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We're developing our plan as we speak, and I feel very confident going forward.

What do the rest of you guys think about Scen 2?
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I see you guys agreed on a HR to limit night bombing but know that the latest beta changes fixes night bombing ... groups come in scattered and not very effective .. a little flak taking its fair share on each scattered group makes night bombing more of a decision than ealier releases ...

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Do you think we should do away with the rule? Curious to see first turn results. Sounds like it will be a Manila port strike from the way they asked...
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Will do an update tonight. Complete with roles and strategy. Also, dissecting the Chiefs Bears game. All 13 points...
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Whatever happened in the Chiefs/Bears game at least your coach didn't ice his own kicker. [8|][:-] I like Jason Garrett, but seriously, what a disaster.
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I agree with aces on the night bombing. Run a test. It is very difficult for them to co ordinate as well as find the targets. You will see alot of "straying".


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Here is the setup we have decided.

Still not sure how Bill and Hartwig will split up things...

Harvey - SWPAC, Burma, India and DEI, Commonwealth
Me - NOPAC, SOPACw/Lloyd, Canada, Philippines
Lloyd - US Logistics, SOPACw/Jeff, China, Russia

I will let Harvey and Lloyd post as they wish.

The first turn there isn't a whole lot to do for us, as we can only move certain units per house rules.

Hawaii

I plan to max out Hawaii as it is one of the most important hubs/areas on the map, if not the most.

All of the bases on the island chain can be beefed up, both port and airfield.

Truk, Marianas, Midway, South coast of Japan & Wake will be the patrol targets of the PH subs and surrounding areas… However, I cannot give orders to any of the subs that are not already out on patrol.

I plan to move my carriers as fast as I can away from action for the time being, as they will get sent to the bottom as soon as the KB shows up, if they're around.

My gameplan here is to have them in the SOPac area to take a shot at any un-escorted invasion force, pending no KB activity in the area. Harvey has mentioned knocking off many un-escorted invasion TFs this way right off the bat, as have I in AI games.

West Coast/Canada

Major shipyards will be maxed as will the following more than likely:
Prince Rupert
Vancouver
Seattle
Tacoma
Portland
Alameda
Mare Island
Los Angeles
San Diego

All pilots with 50 exp plus will go to reserve and I will fill up all trainers and pull 50 exp pilots and send them to needed areas as soon as the training program is up and going.

B-26 Marauders to train Naval Attack at 100 ft, 100%. I plan on transferring them from Eastern USA to San Francisco, where I will have Lloyd ship them to the front for me. SO or SW Pacific.

2nd Marine Def Bn is prepared for Pago Pago. I don't see any reason not to ship it there, and start maxing out Pago Pago, as I plan to hold it. This will be our vital base/area along the supply route to Auz/SoPac. I am not sure what exactly Bill and Hartwig will take in this area, but I am under the impression the Japs in Scen 2 can advance far further than historical...

34th Infantry Rgt can be shipped to PH where it forms part of 24th Division. If we need this elsewhere, as we don’t feel PH is threatened, than I will have Lloyd send it the same area as the above mentioned.

I am considering beefing up Kodak Island and not Dutch Harbor.. more on this later, after further discussion with my war partners.

I will send all fleet boats to Pearl Harbor, and probably the S Boats to Aus for Harvey to use as he sees fit.

SoPac/SWPac

Tahiti (maxed)
Suva/Nadi (maxed) (So close to Noumea that Pago-Pago should be maxed first, then look at situation)
Pago-Pago/Savii (maxed) See above..

Phoenix Isl- Not sure yet… so easily taken by Japan…can’t defend everywhere. Thoughts?

Johnston Isl – would be great to hold, but if Japan wants it, I think they could easily take it

**Phoenix/Johnston Isl- We will just have to determine the man Japanese axis of advance. They can't be everywhere, but they can usually take what the want in the first year or so of the war, especially in Scen 2. If they do a Manila strike, they would probably have a major thrust through the DEI to take that as soon as possible, and use at least some of the KB to support that. At least, that would be my thoughts..

Xmas Isl – (maxed/garrisoned) what are PBEM vets thoughts on the Line Islands?

TF 408 NE of Espiritu Santo will return to Sydney and disband there. Extra CA and troopships are always welcome. Harvey/Lloyd can decide how to use those.

TF 407 in Canton Isl is destined for Noumea(so they unload the artillery there). I am thinking about sending these to Xmas or Pago/Pago. I will then have the remaining ships disband in Sidney. If Lloyd would like them in the West Coast, then they can decide who needs them more. Same reasons as above, plus having that wonderful AGP (can re-supply PT boats, one remedy against Bombardment TFs). In AI I can usually hold Noumea, I think this should go somewhere else.. we will decide soon...

Philipinnes

I plan on combining as many LCUs as possible, which is far better than fragments fighting disoriented…

I like saving the Cebu BF…large support and radar…

I plan on moving main defense to Clark Field, as Bataan and Manila wouldn’t likely be attacked from the sea… however I am about convinced they are planning a port attack at Manila turn one, and will probably completely wreck the majority of our assets there. They will retreat to Bataan or Manila once Clark is taken… which is usually a signal of the beginning of the end.

***I say I am about convinced, soley based on the way Bill and Hartwig asked about port strike rules on turn one. TO ME, it doesn't sound like they will attack Pearl turn one, but if they do, we will take either hand of cards we are dealt.

This can be a bear for Japan if done correctly and I plan to give him a bloody nose every chance I get... I have read numerous AARs about surprising some invasion TFs on the way to the Philippines, or DEI and such...

Davao’s PBYs will go to Soerabaja, and AVD to Port Morseby or wherever Harvey would like it.

Logistics
From the sound of things, Lloyd will be handling all logistics requests in my theater, and I will provide appropriate escorting and protection. Doing this in the first part of the year with the assets given, could prove to be a difficult task. It will be interesting to see how we work on this together, as we both decided to handle SWPac jointly so to speak, because of this relationship/setup.

Keep in mind the majority of what I mentioned cannot be adjusted on turn 1 because of HRs, but I just wanted to layout my game plan at least.

We plan on defending in the places we can, and not everywhere. That is not possible or smart.

I suggested our defensive positions/supply routes/major reinforcement areas based off of the image Sardaukar uses in his "Newbie guide" because I feel like that is an excellent plan.

I will use Nemo’s suggestions/guide/posts on taskforce composition, which is TOP NOTCH. Highly recommended. This will be easier to do, once our assets our plentiful, and more ships become available.

I will let Lloyd and Harvey fill you in on their respect areas/Nationalities.

Feel free to jump right into the discussion and speak up! Everyone is welcome.
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Whatever happened in the Chiefs/Bears game at least your coach didn't ice his own kicker. [8|][:-] I like Jason Garrett, but seriously, what a disaster.


I saw that, and thought what the hell are you doing... then Stephens Howling to the house. Boys lose, haha!

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Chiefs Bears ....as Cribtop reminded me, and I am sure CB wouldn't have let me forget...as he reminds me we suck, just like his Vikings...so its mutual I guess.

Todd Haley needs a new beard, new cap, and a new town
McCluster isn't as fast as he thinks
Is it Tyler Falcco or Shane Palko?
The Orton Era lasted a grand total of one play, a dislocated finger, and could earn him a $2.5 million dollar paycheck if he never plays again. Not a bad paycheck if you ask me...(he should return, a dislocated finger is nothing, trust me, I have had far worse.)

As the Palko era entered its third game, he came away with a win and an offensive shootout, winning 10-3 on a prayer he threw up at half and McCluster had pigskin magnet in his paws... a touchdown is a touchdown I guess, but it was still stupid. McCluster is the worst excuse for a roster spot I have ever seen...

If Justin Houston doesn't get Def Player of The Week (7 T, 3 Sacks, 1 FF), I will let my wife do more of this "Chirstmas Shopping" thing she always talks about.

I saw a hilarious column on Palko's stats so far... half of his possessions are punts, 7 turnovers... pathetic..

Did I mentioned I hate Todd Haley.. freakin bum he is...He seems to be so in over his head it isn't funny.

Now, I realize we have lost our Pro Bowl Saftey, RB, QB, our great TE, and good MLB... but still, he sucked when they were healthy. 2010 playoffs you say?

My answer, Charlie Wies and the "brutal...[8|]" AFC West...

I have no idea what we need to do, but I would rather fall on a pitchfork than watch any more games this year...

Maybe Eric Hosmer can chuck a pigskin around..or run a seam pattern against a cover 2, and sit if it is cover 3?
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