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I have seen some strange things ... but .... - 11/25/2011 11:18:38 AM   
bk19@mweb.co.za

 

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I am not sure if we have a kamikaze captain or a Samurai with nothing but his honour to lose, but this action definitely deserves the Japanese equivalent of the British Victoria Cross.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 31, 41
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Green Island at 110,127, Range 18,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Keijo Maru, Shell hits 1
PB Koei Maru
xAKL Katsuragisan Maru
xAKL Amakasu Maru, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
CV Lexington
CA Portland
CA Chicago
CA Astoria
CA Minneapolis
DD Mahan
DD Drayton
DD Cushing
DD Perkins
DD Porter



Improved night sighting under 96% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 96% moonlight: 12,000 yards
Range closes to 21,000 yards...
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range increases to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
Range increases to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 13,000 yards...
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 12,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 12,000 yards
Both TF attempt to withdraw!
Range increases to 18,000 yards...
xAKL Amakasu Maru engages CV Lexington at 18,000 yards
CA Astoria engages PB Keijo Maru at 18,000 yards
CA Portland engages PB Keijo Maru at 18,000 yards
DD Porter engages xAKL Katsuragisan Maru at 18,000 yards
DD Perkins engages xAKL Amakasu Maru at 18,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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RE: I have seen some strange things ... but .... - 11/25/2011 11:39:16 AM   
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A few hours later this squadron has tracked the Lexington and has another go....


Night Time Surface Combat, near Feni Islands at 111,126, Range 22,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Keijo Maru
PB Koei Maru
xAKL Katsuragisan Maru
xAKL Amakasu Maru

Allied Ships
CV Lexington
CA Portland
CA Chicago
CA Astoria
CA Minneapolis
DD Mahan
DD Drayton
DD Cushing
DD Perkins
DD Porter



Improved night sighting under 96% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 96% moonlight: 12,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range increases to 22,000 yards...
Range increases to 22,000 yards...
Both Task Forces evade combat

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RE: I have seen some strange things ... but .... - 11/25/2011 11:39:40 AM   
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I guess the captain and his crew got a critical succeed on the "Banzai!" skill check

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RE: I have seen some strange things ... but .... - 11/25/2011 11:56:04 AM   
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Hi all,

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Improved night sighting under 96% moonlight

Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 96% moonlight: 12,000 yards

xAKL Amakasu Maru engages CV Lexington at 18,000 yards


The ranges trouble me...


Leo "Apollo11"

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RE: I have seen some strange things ... but .... - 11/25/2011 12:01:15 PM   
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Read the next posting as well. There you see visibility at 12,000 and the forces evading at 22,000 Yards.

This game is being played using version 1108r3.

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RE: I have seen some strange things ... but .... - 11/25/2011 12:06:25 PM   
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Another thing to consider though is at this point forces have already been spotted and are withdrawing.

Visibility conditions change dramatically when; 1: you know where to look. 2: guns are popping everywhere and 3: star shells are 'posted'.

I am guessing here of course, but the game engine must have some solid reason for this strange looking behaviour.

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RE: I have seen some strange things ... but .... - 11/25/2011 2:33:08 PM   
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Every now and then you get a Merchie ship crewed by samurai. In my current PBeM an allied sub surfaced to beat on a merchie and as soon as the sub surfaced the merchie pounded on the sub until it fled without the merchie suffering a single hit. I was expecting to see a burning hulk of a merchie and was very happily surprised...

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RE: I have seen some strange things ... but .... - 11/25/2011 4:01:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Apollo11

Hi all,

quote:

ORIGINAL: bk19@mweb.co.za

Improved night sighting under 96% moonlight

Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 96% moonlight: 12,000 yards

xAKL Amakasu Maru engages CV Lexington at 18,000 yards


The ranges trouble me...



Amakasu Mara have only one 8 cm DP gun, which have range 12,000...

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RE: I have seen some strange things ... but .... - 11/25/2011 4:51:04 PM   
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Well now I can only report what I read.




I now understand Apollo's earlier posting.

Does anybody known the significance of the asterisk following the range in the image above?

If anybody is interested in investigating this anomaly further I will send you the save file.

You will need to PM my opponent Mundy for his password though. Alternatively maybe michaelm could generate the reports for you.



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RE: I have seen some strange things ... but .... - 11/25/2011 5:03:51 PM   
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IIRC the asterisk means it is a dual-purpose gun - capable of both anti-surface and anti-air fire.


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RE: I have seen some strange things ... but .... - 11/25/2011 5:06:16 PM   
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Thanks for the info witpqs

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RE: I have seen some strange things ... but .... - 11/25/2011 5:22:51 PM   
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Perhaps the sighting visibility , range of guns and engagement distance shown should be logged in the forum as potential bug(s) or is it just FOW.

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RE: I have seen some strange things ... but .... - 11/25/2011 5:32:46 PM   
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 I can be persuaded to believe that the merchant crew allowed their enthusiasm to convince them to fire at a target beyond their range. It is possible that once a target has been sighted within max visual range it is easier to track beyond that range...


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RE: I have seen some strange things ... but .... - 11/25/2011 5:37:15 PM   
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maybe the type of target had an influence?

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RE: I have seen some strange things ... but .... - 11/25/2011 7:19:51 PM   
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There is no problem. When two ships are picked to engage each other, one is randomly picked to shoot first. That one is also listed as "engages" t'other. Both ships get a chance to fire - even if no weapon turns out to have the range.

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RE: I have seen some strange things ... but .... - 11/25/2011 7:23:44 PM   
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Maybe they thought they were gonna give 'em hell with those TWO machine guns?

No, for a long time some of us have had problems with a surface force failing to track down and kill slow moving, feeble-armed merchies, etc..

Might just be one of those things that cannot be corrected..The rest of the game is so magnificent that things like this may not matter so much to some folks?

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RE: I have seen some strange things ... but .... - 11/25/2011 7:56:40 PM   
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Maybe they thought they were gonna give 'em hell with those TWO machine guns?

No, for a long time some of us have had problems with a surface force failing to track down and kill slow moving, feeble-armed merchies, etc..

Might just be one of those things that cannot be corrected..The rest of the game is so magnificent that things like this may not matter so much to some folks?


TFs react based on their primary missions. Carrier TFs never go looking for surface engagements.

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RE: I have seen some strange things ... but .... - 11/25/2011 9:41:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen


quote:

ORIGINAL: m10bob

Maybe they thought they were gonna give 'em hell with those TWO machine guns?

No, for a long time some of us have had problems with a surface force failing to track down and kill slow moving, feeble-armed merchies, etc..

Might just be one of those things that cannot be corrected..The rest of the game is so magnificent that things like this may not matter so much to some folks?


TFs react based on their primary missions. Carrier TFs never go looking for surface engagements.



Yep, Don...I am aware....

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