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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/10/2018 6:52:20 PM   
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20mm AA also supply sinks - each time they fire it eats supply.

It occurs to me that maybe I should stockpile those devices so my IJA/IJN units just don't get any and can't waste any supplies

I do … As you note, there are a number of devices like this that are just supply sinks. I turn them off on day 1 and THEN I work to upgrade to them. The 7.7 and 13 mm AA guns upgrade to the 20mm in a number of units … the 7.7 and 13 mm are even worse supply sinks as they not only can't hit anything due to altitude, but even if they do, they do no damage.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/10/2018 10:54:13 PM   
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As always, one simple question opens up a can of worms!

23 Aug 43

Sub War
5 Fleet
4 Fleet


Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

I see two Allied carrier TFs, on with CV Hornet and CVLs Independence and Princeton and the other with a couple of CVEs. Combined they have about 80 Hellcats and 44 bombers. They're staying put at Buka in an effort to stay alive under land-based fighter cover. There's about 70 fighters, primarily Thunderbolts and Lightnings, along with a few Corsairs and Wildcats. I'm thinking of sending in some DDs to try and get a few hits on something under the cover of night. Right now there's 25% moonlight and it's decreasing. I'm thinking 2-3 groups of DDs a day apart.

The bombers decided to hit Rabaul today. It's trashed. Also, there's some ground forces heading north toward the SNLF which is south of Kavieng. They're doomed. Actually, that whole area is doomed now. No more fighters south of Truk. I've begun pulling out some troops I don't want to let rot in the jungle. This includes the Guards Brigade, which is being flown out of Rabaul to Truk. The rest of the division is there. I want to form up the division and have that be the primary defender of Truk. Should Truk be bypassed, I'll pull it out of there.

I'm still sending single Anysu PB fast transports to all four bases. They're pretty good at getting in and out without issue.

KB1 arrived at Truk safely. Akagi and Kaga will need about 60 days of dock time at Truk before heading to the Home Islands to repair the major damage. There isn't much of that though.

Tomorrow, 3 CMs will drop 295 mines at Kavieng. They're traveling without escort because if any planes catch them, the escorts will just be more targets and the CMs carry depth charges so they can protect themselves from subs. I don't anticipate them running into surface ships. They should be in and out before sunrise.

SRA

Nothing to report.

Burma

The 1 and 2 Tank Divisions successfully shock attacked the 77 Chindit Brigade ousting it from Warazup. The tank divisions will head out to rail back to Rangoon.

China

I'm seeing my bombers killing squads now. Maybe that last attack hit him worse than I thought. Still gonna be awhile...

Other Stuff

Nothing exciting.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/11/2018 1:05:42 AM   
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24 Aug 43

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The RO-38 sank from wounds gained by DCs on 9 Aug by Shortlands Island. She'd been limping back to port and didn't quite make it.

The waters around Truk were busy today. The Grouper took a depth charge and the Dutch O19 was driven to the surface by several DC hits, then sunk with gunfire.

5 Fleet
4 Fleet


Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

I heard sinking sounds at the beginning of the turn. No clue what it was. Maybe another of those YMS that visited Rabaul a few days back? The report of the RO-38 sinking was before the sinking sounds.

Manus and Kavieng were the targets of the Allied bombers today. Now, only Talasea is the only airfield that is close to being open. No matter. Those bases will probably never have a whole Japanese plane there again.

SRA
Burma


Nothing to report.

China

Japanese bombers destroyed 6 Chinese steps in Chungking. At that rate, I suspect it'll be somewhere after the turn of the century before the Chinese Army is eradicated from Chungking.

Other Stuff

I forgot to report that Ryujo completed repairs yesterday. Right now, I have Soryu, Shokaku, Ryujo and Hosho undamaged and Zuikaku with 3 sys damage. Shoho will be repaired in about a week, Kaga in ~40 days and Akagi in 60 days (plus major damage for the last two). Still a couple weeks on Hiyo.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/11/2018 11:41:37 AM   
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Truk - How much Naval Support do you have? How many ARs?

How many ARs do you have available and how many are being converted?

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/11/2018 12:53:48 PM   
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Truk - How much Naval Support do you have? How many ARs?

How many ARs do you have available and how many are being converted?


Oops, slipped my mind....

Naval support: 360
1 AR, the ARD

I have 8 ARs available with none building. I can get 4 more on their way to Truk next turn.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/11/2018 1:34:43 PM   
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20mm AA also supply sinks - each time they fire it eats supply.

It occurs to me that maybe I should stockpile those devices so my IJA/IJN units just don't get any and can't waste any supplies

I do … As you note, there are a number of devices like this that are just supply sinks. I turn them off on day 1 and THEN I work to upgrade to them. The 7.7 and 13 mm AA guns upgrade to the 20mm in a number of units … the 7.7 and 13 mm are even worse supply sinks as they not only can't hit anything due to altitude, but even if they do, they do no damage.


I tend to disagree with this strategy because it makes the unit more fragile.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/11/2018 1:39:01 PM   
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Having the lion share of your AA on Honshu doesn't do much if the Allies use their bombers against your frontline defensive position and ignores your economy.



We'll need to agree to disagree here. I get where you're coming from, but in the late-game every Allied bomber attacking ground troops is a little victory for Japan in that it's one less plane targeting factories....


I'm already known for pretty radical views, so feel free to poke holes in my logic!



Well, normally when I have seen Allied players use this strategy they hit your runways and ports at the front too...speeding up the Allied advance.

Not to mention the planes become super tough beasts with very experienced pilots...from all the front line bombing.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/11/2018 8:02:50 PM   
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My DL is 9/13 and is always up there. With the mouse over, I see 682k troops and the combat said 380k. Either way, it's a bunch, but I'm starting to whittle down the forts, which is the main goal right now.

I use a Mac with the HD partitioned running Windows 7. Not sure how to run the game in a window though. That's beyond my capability. I reduced the troop v troop and bombardment delays from 1.0 sec to 0.2 sec. We'll see how that works, but it'll probably be a week before I launch another DA.


You should believe the combat report. I wasn't paying close enough attention and thought we were talking about a base "over there", not a base that you're currently fighting in.

The summary numbers at the top of the combat report are, so far as I know, always 100% accurate. Always. The AV that is listed will not be "actual" AV but effective raw AV, which includes the fraction of support troops.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/11/2018 8:43:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

20mm AA also supply sinks - each time they fire it eats supply.

It occurs to me that maybe I should stockpile those devices so my IJA/IJN units just don't get any and can't waste any supplies

I do … As you note, there are a number of devices like this that are just supply sinks. I turn them off on day 1 and THEN I work to upgrade to them. The 7.7 and 13 mm AA guns upgrade to the 20mm in a number of units … the 7.7 and 13 mm are even worse supply sinks as they not only can't hit anything due to altitude, but even if they do, they do no damage.


I tend to disagree with this strategy because it makes the unit more fragile.


By how much? A few dozen devices at most in a division, out of a pool of 800+? That's less than 5% more fragile.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/12/2018 1:22:42 AM   
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20mm AA also supply sinks - each time they fire it eats supply.

It occurs to me that maybe I should stockpile those devices so my IJA/IJN units just don't get any and can't waste any supplies

I do … As you note, there are a number of devices like this that are just supply sinks. I turn them off on day 1 and THEN I work to upgrade to them. The 7.7 and 13 mm AA guns upgrade to the 20mm in a number of units … the 7.7 and 13 mm are even worse supply sinks as they not only can't hit anything due to altitude, but even if they do, they do no damage.


I tend to disagree with this strategy because it makes the unit more fragile.

true.
In stock on a standard ID, we're talking 18 devices out of a total of 1000, so about a 2% loss (this is a rough average of several ID TOE's). The LC on these useless items is 4. Ceiling is 2000 ft. Anti-Arm=1 Anti-soft = 0.
So to add 2% of the device number to the ID, I am going to spend supply with almost 0% chance of actually inflicting any damage any time this unit is attacked.
The question is how much supply do you spend and we know that "it depends" is the correct answer. 72 supply/turn is a standard guess, but it is just a guess.
I don't think it is a big deal either way, but I do look for every little supply savings I can find, so ....



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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/12/2018 1:40:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo


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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo


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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

20mm AA also supply sinks - each time they fire it eats supply.

It occurs to me that maybe I should stockpile those devices so my IJA/IJN units just don't get any and can't waste any supplies

I do … As you note, there are a number of devices like this that are just supply sinks. I turn them off on day 1 and THEN I work to upgrade to them. The 7.7 and 13 mm AA guns upgrade to the 20mm in a number of units … the 7.7 and 13 mm are even worse supply sinks as they not only can't hit anything due to altitude, but even if they do, they do no damage.


I tend to disagree with this strategy because it makes the unit more fragile.

true.
In stock on a standard ID, we're talking 18 devices out of a total of 1000, so about a 2% loss (this is a rough average of several ID TOE's). The LC on these useless items is 4. Ceiling is 2000 ft. Anti-Arm=1 Anti-soft = 0.
So to add 2% of the device number to the ID, I am going to spend supply with almost 0% chance of actually inflicting any damage any time this unit is attacked.
The question is how much supply do you spend and we know that "it depends" is the correct answer. 72 supply/turn is a standard guess, but it is just a guess.
I don't think it is a big deal either way, but I do look for every little supply savings I can find, so ....




I was thinking it makes the artillery and eng units more fragile, which normally don't have a lot of devices to begin with. I noticed that years ago with not having any tractors or motorized support in them.

They are load 4, and pack a 9 or 10 soft value in regular ground fighting.

I guess I would just rather have them than not...plus most of the time they don't even fire in their AA role, except against strafers which is usually rare.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/12/2018 2:53:33 PM   
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Or bombers at 2K.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/12/2018 7:56:03 PM   
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25 Aug 43

Sub War

Those mines at Kavieng are paying off. The Finback took two of them today.

5 Fleet
4 Fleet


Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

Today’s victim for the Allied bomber force was Kavieng.

Now Manus, Kavieng and Rabaul are all closed. Only Talasea is somewhat open at 0-97-8.

SRA
Burma
China


Nothing to report.

Other Stuff

My first Grace factory completed repairs with the other three at 22(8), 19(11) and 17(13).

The B6N2a R&D advanced to 5/44 (will become operational in 12/43, 3x30 factories).

The Kongo, Haruna, Sendai, Tama, Kiso and 2 DDs entered refit at Kobe.


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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/12/2018 7:58:44 PM   
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26 Aug 43

Sub War
5 Fleet
4 Fleet


Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

Three CAs bombarded Kavieng causing no damage. They missed the mines.

Then another TF of 2 CA and 8 DD caught an Ansyu PB Fast Transport TF headed for Rabaul a couple hexes north of Kavieng and sank her. They didn’t withdraw so they’re waiting to be attacked. I had a Betty unit on night naval attack. I switched it do day with just enough range to reach Kavieng. Hopefully, they’ll catch some ships in the vicinity. I don’t think they have any fighter cover. The dregs of the US carrier fleet is still hanging out at Buka.

8x YMS cleared 43 mines at Kavieng. There are no CD guns there so they got away. That leaves ~250 mines at Kavieng.

The US troops continue to crawl northward and will reach the SNLF pretty soon. Kavieng is doomed, as is Rabaul. I doubt Ted attacks Rabaul. I think he’s happy to bomb it into oblivion. I’ll continue to pull troops out of there. Right now I have pulled a sizeable slice of the Guards Brigade and am working on an SNLF with morale and experience of 90/98. I can’t leave that to just die.

Only Talasea is operational at 0-88-0. Rabaul is repairing at 49-99-55 but Manus and Kavieng are both totally closed.

I have 4x AR heading to Truk to assist in repairs (thanks, Michael).

I hope Ted tries to send his 4E bombers to visit Truk. I have Georges, Franks, Tojos, Tonys, Nicks and Zeros waiting, along with AA and level 7 forts. I’ll have to check and see what Allied bombers can make it that far.

SRA
Burma
China


Nothing to report.

Other Stuff

The Ha-43 engine R&D advanced to 3/45 (will become operational 5/44). This will limit the George K5 to become available 5/44 as well.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/13/2018 11:48:33 PM   
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Those mines at Kavieng are paying off. The Finback took two of them today.


Yeah, subs in mine infested base sites are generally easy meat...

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Three CAs bombarded Kavieng causing no damage. They missed the mines.


...not so much with bombardment TF's. They normally stay outta the reach of mines.



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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/14/2018 12:33:54 AM   
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Been looking at stuff accumulating in Japan, mainly ground units. Nothing major, but I may as well move them to some locations where they can die gloriously for the Emperor.

Also been looking at all the AA that's all over Japan. Time to start thinking about where to place them. I finally looked at the AA stats to see what they're good for.

Type - Effect - Ceiling
20mm - 15 - 6,200 - pretty much worthless, glad there's only 3 of them right now.
75mm - 15 - 25k - not much better, but at least they have some range.
88mm - 20 - 31k - not bad and there's a fair amount of this stuff. Some of it upgrades to the 120mm......in 11 months.
10cm - 34 - 31k - the best there is right now. I count just over 100 tubes right now.
120mm - 45 - 39.37k - can't wait to get these guys!

To be honest, I'm not sure if they really matter. Anyone who's played late game care to chime in? Aside from the 20mm garbage, I count ~350 tubes total. I know we can't cover everything, but how many bases should have some? 3 or 4? What do you guys think?



OK, here I go tilting at windmills again. Notice the bolded caption above. Actually the time to thinking about where to place that AAA was day one. Wasn't here back then to say anything, but now since you asked.

Again I go against the grain here. All discussions have been simply one dimensional IMO to this point. All that AAA in the HI is simply eating rice, drinking Saki, and playing 'GO'. They sit there through '42, '43, and do nothing. They really shouldn't be needed in the HI 'til sometime in '44, if things go as they should.

So much if it could be moved forward. How much and how you use it is up to the player. As for me I put a bunch at my prime targets. Palembang, Magwe, Rangoon, Medan, to name some (at least the ones I can spell). The rest along with theater assets go to other key bases.

Here's my take. Yeah, they'll suck supply, although I've not noticed an inordinately large supply usage. On the other hand they'll damage a good number of bombers, and some of those damaged planes will become op losses. They'll even shoot some down. I generally have 36-48, 75mm and above at each location. Heck with theater assets I can get 100 into Rabaul by mid '43. In addition these guns tend to also cause missed drops, which equals little or no base damage, little or no supply hits, and little or no A/C destroyed on the ground. Add to that the fact that my opponent may decide to increase his bombing altitude, which again will increase inaccuracy, and I like the results so far.

BTW 2pts/destroyed HB is added to my score. Yes, I believe in keeping score. It is a measure on winning the game within the parameters thereof.

Another plus is that these are usually high SR aircraft doing base bombing. More damage to the plane, equals more time in the hanger, equals less frequent raids. So maybe the benefits outweigh the costs. Never tried to do the math. Even though I was generally good in math I didn't really like it that much.

To all this those AAA guys are gaining experience. We all know where that may come in handy.

So here's a bunch to chew on from the 'other side' of the coin. Consider it as you may.

The above is only an opinion and does not necessarily represent the stations' management. YMMV.


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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/14/2018 1:28:21 PM   
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I hope Ted tries to send his 4E bombers to visit Truk. I have Georges, Franks, Tojos, Tonys, Nicks and Zeros waiting, along with AA and level 7 forts. I’ll have to check and see what Allied bombers can make it that far.


Be very careful of isolated island bases like Truk. You might have a solid CAP, but Allied bombers always get through, and if they do enough damage with their alpha strike it can mean a lot of dead IJ planes.

In my view there's a sweet spot in making it uneconomical for the Allies to bomb these bases without escorts while not overcommitting.

This is before we consider things like suicide DD bombardments and other hijinks.

To be honest you need these planes backstopping your New Guinea front rather than flying ball-of-yarn patrols over Truk.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/16/2018 6:16:33 PM   
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Also, INFO request from Mike:

What are your oil/fuel convoys like from the DEI like?

What hulls, how many, and what routes and escorts?

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/18/2018 1:15:06 PM   
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I hope Ted tries to send his 4E bombers to visit Truk. I have Georges, Franks, Tojos, Tonys, Nicks and Zeros waiting, along with AA and level 7 forts. I’ll have to check and see what Allied bombers can make it that far.


Be very careful of isolated island bases like Truk. You might have a solid CAP, but Allied bombers always get through, and if they do enough damage with their alpha strike it can mean a lot of dead IJ planes.

In my view there's a sweet spot in making it uneconomical for the Allies to bomb these bases without escorts while not overcommitting.

This is before we consider things like suicide DD bombardments and other hijinks.

To be honest you need these planes backstopping your New Guinea front rather than flying ball-of-yarn patrols over Truk.


I understand and agree with your comments. Two problems with that last comment though.

1) My New Guinea front has a serious lack of supply and I don't see an opportunity to rectify that in the near future.
2) Most of the airfields are trashed. Right now (1 Sep 43) only Rabaul is operational (but without supply). That won't last long. Ted has enough bombers to keep them all out of commission. I see about 200 sorties a day.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/18/2018 1:54:51 PM   
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Also, INFO request from Mike:

What are your oil/fuel convoys like from the DEI like?

What hulls, how many, and what routes and escorts?


First, here's the current backlog at Singapore and Palembang:

Singapore:
Fuel: 105k
Oil: 51k
Resources: 357k

Palembang:
Fuel: 32k
Oil: 22k
Resources: 35k

Here are my tankers that make the run from Singapore to Japan (and China on occasion):
12 Type-1 TL (11.6k)
7 Type-N TL (12.8k)
5 Tonan Whalers
7 Type-1 TM (8150)

And freighters:
18 Yusen-S (6142 capacity)
15 Yusen-N (6555 capacity)
plus I'm sending a 34 ship Aden TF back just to get some of the resource backlog taken care of. Yeah, I know, not worth the fuel but my SLOC is still open. Ted is using most of his subs against the front line. He really wants to kill carriers, not the merchant shipping. I'm pushing everything I can to the Home Islands while it's easy. I've had to reroute my convoys because some subs are looking for my SLOC but he hasn't flooded the area with subs yet. I'm trying to take advantage of that.

My tankers have about a 3 week round trip. That means I'm shipping ~120k of fuel/oil to Japan. I've just shipped a significant amount of fuel (~100k) to China to help the HI there. It got low and factories started to shut off. Bad planning. I also shipped ~90k fuel to Truk to boost what I had there. The reserve got eaten up in the August carrier battles. It was worth it though.

I have 2 convoys shipping 31.8k fuel to Truk constantly from Balikpapan. Neither has ever been sighted. They've been doing that since Balikpapan was liberated. That pretty much uses the fuel Balikpapan produces. The excess oil at Balikpapan gets shipped to Babeldaob.

Java's HI and refineries were increased (the only refineries I increased) to match the oil production there. So, Java produces an excess of fuel that is shipped to my central hub. Originally, it was Davao, but now it's Babeldaob. The fuel from Tarakan and fuel/oil from Miri/Brunei also go to Babeldaob. The two small oilfields in the southern SRA also go to Babeldaob. I use Type-1 TM and Std-A TKs to haul it to Japan.

So far, it's working well but on occasion a TK gets taken out. I have excess small TKs to cover the occasional losses.

Edit: Forgot about escorts...

3 Katori
3 Shimushu
~12 or so Etorofu
Lots of W- class
The lesser "DDs"

I use the good DDs for the combat fleet.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/18/2018 2:07:53 PM   
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Finally registered on the forum and posting.

This topic has been my Holy Bible when I was learning the game (and I am currently doing!). I am quite happy to write my first post here.

Thank you again for this game and greetings from Italy!


Regards,

Francesco

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/18/2018 2:24:50 PM   
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Sub War

I had sent an emergency TK TF to China from Japan because I neglected to ship fuel there and my HI factories started shutting down. This TF was a large TK and AO and a small AO (3600 capacity). Just outside of Shanghai, the Skipjack caught them and sank the small AO. Fortunately, it was that one and not one with 10 or 11k fuel. The little escort, a W- class, hit Skipjack twice sending her off heavily damaged. The TF then made port the next day. I don't typically ship fuel out of Japan, but this was an emergency and the fuel was for HI so I didn't mind too much.

5 Fleet
4 Fleet


Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

Today's Allied bomber target: Hollandia. A new one to add to the list. I had two George chutai (18 planes) there. A total of 149 sorties visited. I shot down 12 bombers losing 4 Georges. There was moderate damage to the airfield.

The remaining sorties visited the remaining must see sights.

Manas: 66-75-67, down 7
Kavieng: 100-100-98, no change
Rabaul: 49-99-24, down 31
Talasea: 0-88-11, up 11
Hollandia: 0-25-40

SRA
Burma
China


Nothing to report.

Other Stuff

The Ki-84r R&D advanced to 7/45 (will become operational 2/44).

The Chitose arrived! I added 21 A6M5 Zeros and 9 Kates. She'll wait around for Chiyoda to arrive tomorrow.


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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/18/2018 2:33:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ITAKLinus

Finally registered on the forum and posting.

This topic has been my Holy Bible when I was learning the game (and I am currently doing!). I am quite happy to write my first post here.

Thank you again for this game and greetings from Italy!


Regards,

Francesco


Welcome Francesco! I'm glad you're enjoying it and learning things too. I constantly learn from the guys here.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/18/2018 2:44:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ITAKLinus

Finally registered on the forum and posting.

This topic has been my Holy Bible when I was learning the game (and I am currently doing!). I am quite happy to write my first post here.

Thank you again for this game and greetings from Italy!


Regards,

Francesco



Once you get to 1945 as Japan your Holy Bible and OST will be Manic Street Preachers "Holy Bible" album...

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Yaab


quote:

ORIGINAL: ITAKLinus

Finally registered on the forum and posting.

This topic has been my Holy Bible when I was learning the game (and I am currently doing!). I am quite happy to write my first post here.

Thank you again for this game and greetings from Italy!


Regards,

Francesco



Once you get to 1945 as Japan your Holy Bible and OST will be Manic Street Preachers "Holy Bible" album...




Shhhh don't wanna know that part of the story.....


Soon, well as soon as I reach 10 messages on the forum I have just discovered I need to open a thread, I'll write my AAR....
We're at the end of March '42, so I have some years before I became meat for allied planes/warships/whatever-they-throw-to-me

Until then, logistics explained by Mike will be gold. A gift from heaven

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/18/2018 2:59:26 PM   
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War

The I-7 caught an unescorted convoy near Tonga and sank an xAK. Are the Allies really short of escorts at this point in the war? I can't believe how many unescorted convoys I find.

5 Fleet
4 Fleet


Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

Hollandia was the primary target again.

Manas: 66-75-48, down 19
Kavieng: 100-100-96, down 2
Rabaul: 49-90-0, down 33
Talasea: 0-88-27, up 16
Hollandia: 0-57-76, up 68

SRA
Burma


Nothing to report.

China

I tried an artillery bombardment of Chungking again. Not worth it. Killed 8 steps.

AV:

China: 13,776
Japan: 3685

I did notice a Chinese division had been destroyed, probably by aerial bombing.

Other Stuff

The Chiyoda arrived! I did not give her an air complement. She and Chitose are heading to Ambon where MKB will form. Ryuho is down there (along with 3x CVEs). Ryuho's air complement will be given to Chiyoda and Ryuho will get her aircraft in about a month or so when they arrive.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/18/2018 3:00:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Yaab


quote:

ORIGINAL: ITAKLinus

Finally registered on the forum and posting.

This topic has been my Holy Bible when I was learning the game (and I am currently doing!). I am quite happy to write my first post here.

Thank you again for this game and greetings from Italy!


Regards,

Francesco



Once you get to 1945 as Japan your Holy Bible and OST will be Manic Street Preachers "Holy Bible" album...



IF I make it to 1945....

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/18/2018 3:10:09 PM   
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One big question Mike: why you decided not to steadily defend North-Western coast of New Guinea?

I wondered about that for a couple of months and still I can't figure out the reasoning behind that choice.




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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/18/2018 3:17:42 PM   
Mike Solli


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Sub War

I caught another unescorted convoy about 17 hexes SW of San Francisco and sank an xAK with I-23.

5 Fleet
4 Fleet


Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

A TF of 8x YMS (the one that cleared the mines from Kavieng a little while ago) went for Rabaul's mines. The CD guns ravaged the little ships, leaving 6 of the 8 furiously burning with heavy damage. 45 mines were cleared though.

I had spotted the remnants of the US CV TF (0-1 CV and 2 CVL). Three Fubukis flew in to try and catch them with 0% moonlight, but ran into a 4 DD TF (ASW I suspect). The 7 DDs tangled with each other with the Murakumo and Laffey both going down. I have 2 other 3 DD TFs that were going to go in on the next 2 nights but the US CV TF will skedaddle tomorrow. They'll hang around, just in case something appears that they can hit.

Hollandia again...

Manas: 66-75-29, down 19
Kavieng: 100-100-95, down 1
Rabaul: 49-33-0, down 33
Talasea: 0-88-12, down 15
Hollandia: 0-86-99, up 52

SRA
Burma
China


Nothing to report.

Other Stuff

Reinforcement: DD Hamanami (Yugumo class)

I haven't gotten a DD reinforcement in ages. Of course, I lose a DD the day I get it...

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 6/18/2018 3:59:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ITAKLinus

One big question Mike: why you decided not to steadily defend North-Western coast of New Guinea?

I wondered about that for a couple of months and still I can't figure out the reasoning behind that choice.





I am defending NW New Guinea, with troops. The issue is that his bombers have range over that area. My Air Force will eventually be worn down and destroyed on the ground if I contest there any longer. Long ago (in the original WitP) I learned a valuable lesson from the resident Japanese expert (Mogami, for all you old farts out there). He said that once you lose air superiority in a region, withdraw your Air Force or it will be destroyed, mainly on the ground. I agree with that.

I look at everything as HI. There is only so much HI in the game. A single engine fighter destroyed on the ground is 36 HI gone forever.

The longer Ted spends in this area the happier I am. The ground forces here will either be destroyed or cut off. That's ok. I knew that was coming in 1942 when I entered the region. I love seeing his bombers hit my destroyed airfields, or forces in the jungle. That's wasted sorties for him and more time for me.

This doesn't mean I'm just going to sit and watch. See the dot base below (Namatanai)? He has 2 units there. I suspect neither is a combat unit. I'll check that out by "Recon by bombing". If that's true, I'll paradrop into the base to take it and cut off his supply. He'll be forced to take it back (which he will) to open his supply line on his forces heading toward Kavieng. That'll take more time. In the mean time, I'm preparing more defenses farther back, training my pilots, etc...






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