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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/12/2012 10:58:29 AM   
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I'd like to help Obvert...buy my knowledge of japanese economy in 1943 is zero!
As far as i can tell your fuel and supply surpluses look good, and so does the HI...
The oil missing should'nt be a huge problem as far as fuel keeps on flowing to the HI... for sure you're gonna miss those 3000 supplies daily generated by the refineries

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/12/2012 11:22:11 AM   
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I'd like to help Obvert...buy my knowledge of japanese economy in 1943 is zero!
As far as i can tell your fuel and supply surpluses look good, and so does the HI...
The oil missing should'nt be a huge problem as far as fuel keeps on flowing to the HI... for sure you're gonna miss those 3000 supplies daily generated by the refineries


That's exactly how I feel. Totally new territory.

Thanks for the support though. I agree the supply will be noticed. A lot of players have mentioned supply is not the problem in the late game, but I'm still not sure after PzB and your thoughts about the DaBabes limitations. I know in stock it won't be nearly as closely run, but still it worries me if indeed I am lucky enough to still hold a goo deal of territory in 44. I do use it profusely for fort building and I fly a ton of sorties every day. As combat ramps up this will use even more. It'll be interesting, at least.

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/12/2012 11:27:32 AM   
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Yes, even if i think a wise Japanese player needs to start saving supplies as soon as possible, avoiding building up bases which are non-MUST and wisely use the replacements function.
Later on the supply expenditure will be so high (when the B24s will cripple all our bases) that every sip of supply will matter i fear...


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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/12/2012 2:19:33 PM   
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Japan gets many ground units in 44 which all eat supply. More so if they are in combat. Your supply production usually wont increase at this point tho.
So if supply levels are going down in 43 they will for sure in 44. Because of this fuel is so important. If you run out of fuel it does not matter much if you have a gazillion HI or not. You cant move your ships, supply production will drop drastically etc etc.

Your fuel stocks look good but where is all that fuel ? If the majority of it is around Palembang/Singers you can get in trouble very quickly. (allies push through the lower DEI, cut the tanker line and game over. thats what happened to Cuttlefish vs Q-Ball. Cuttlefish still had two millions of HI or so but could do squat at this point.


ps You did a good job with your Oil it seems, I never understood players who say "I leave it behind and ship fuel instead."

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/12/2012 2:40:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin

Japan gets many ground units in 44 which all eat supply. More so if they are in combat. Your supply production usually wont increase at this point tho.
So if supply levels are going down in 43 they will for sure in 44. Because of this fuel is so important. If you run out of fuel it does not matter much if you have a gazillion HI or not. You cant move your ships, supply production will drop drastically etc etc.

Your fuel stocks look good but where is all that fuel ? If the majority of it is around Palembang/Singers you can get in trouble very quickly. (allies push through the lower DEI, cut the tanker line and game over. thats what happened to Cuttlefish vs Q-Ball. Cuttlefish still had two millions of HI or so but could do squat at this point.


ps You did a good job with your Oil it seems, I never understood players who say "I leave it behind and ship fuel instead."


Thanks for the notes. I definitely appreciate the help at this stage. Supply has been going up for the most part, but I've been shipping a lot out lately and building a ton, so it has leveled and taken a few dips. Soon my major fort building will be close to finished in major frontline areas.

I'm making a huge push right now to get everything to the HI while I still have a decent chance to do so. Singapore stores are diminishing significantly, and Palembang and Miri are also dropping steadily. I'm running out of fuel to ship in Balikpapan/Tarakan/Soerabaja.

Manila is now a size 9 port and has become my hub. Everything other than Sumatra fuel is shipped here. Actually, the stuff from Boela/Buna gets sent to Babeldaob, but that's just a trickle.

Within 3 months I should have the unnecessary surplus out of Singapore and Palembang. I'd like to make Manila not just a transport hub but also a major depot for fuel and oil, so that when incursions begin into the SRA most of the surplus will be out of the area stored here where it can be decided how best to use it.


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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/12/2012 7:39:34 PM   
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Sounds like you are in a good shape indeed

Fuel is so precious that I have sometimes the urge to make hidden fuel depots where no one can find it...... myyyy precious......Gollum Gollum....

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/12/2012 8:25:10 PM   
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These recent comments about supply have me wondering why it's so frowned upon to increase LI? I get the fact it takes 2.75 years to pay the 1000 supply points back necessary for expanding LI one point/factory. Considering the supply may be needed in the late game doesn't it make sense to have increased supply generating capacity that doesn't require fuel?

In the late game, the majority of combat will be ground and air, because presumably much of Japan's navy will have been destroyed at this point. If LCU replacements and air operations are dependent on supply it seems to me that increasing LI may become a viable option. Considering how few games have gone the distance, I don't think there's enough proof that expanding LI is as detrimental to Japan as commonly believed.

I'm just playing Devil's advocate here. It just seems to me that if enough HI is pooled and supply is what is required to get those replacements into LCU's and for aircraft to perform missions, the more you have late game the better. I'm really curious to see what happens to Japan's supply when more of these AAR's reach into 45 and beyond.

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/12/2012 8:47:23 PM   
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These AAR's that look like they are going to go the distance are great for those of us who are still learning the game.

Great work guys!

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/12/2012 9:22:10 PM   
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These recent comments about supply have me wondering why it's so frowned upon to increase LI? I get the fact it takes 2.75 years to pay the 1000 supply points back necessary for expanding LI one point/factory. Considering the supply may be needed in the late game doesn't it make sense to have increased supply generating capacity that doesn't require fuel?

In the late game, the majority of combat will be ground and air, because presumably much of Japan's navy will have been destroyed at this point. If LCU replacements and air operations are dependent on supply it seems to me that increasing LI may become a viable option. Considering how few games have gone the distance, I don't think there's enough proof that expanding LI is as detrimental to Japan as commonly believed.

I'm just playing Devil's advocate here. It just seems to me that if enough HI is pooled and supply is what is required to get those replacements into LCU's and for aircraft to perform missions, the more you have late game the better. I'm really curious to see what happens to Japan's supply when more of these AAR's reach into 45 and beyond.

Yes indeed. Even more so if you have unused supply in 42. You can invest it and reap the fruits in 45. Manchuria is a good place for doing that for example. Well at least untill August 45 O.O

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/14/2012 12:02:48 PM   
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Thanks for all of the notes. Been a bit busy this weekend so I haven't had time to respond until now.

I did end up increasing some LI in mid-42, so by late 45 it should be paid for. I didn't probably increase it enough to make a huge difference, but something like 100 more LI. I can't remember exactly. Still that's quite late, so most players probably feel they can't justify the expense in early 42, and by the time they can it won't be a productive move. If I can keep going until late 45 I'm sure I'll need all I can get though with the amount of bombing that will be going on.





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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/14/2012 1:13:37 PM   
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7 July 1943
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SUBS: Another xAK lost, again a good Lima class.

NORTH PACIFIC: The Mini-KB makes Attu and parks there for now. There is no detection level on the base, and he can't bomb this far with anything from his current bases.

WEST OZ: 4Es hit Carnarvon again. Those fields are demolished for a few weeks at the least. He lost a few to flak today, which is nice.

BURMA: Nothing.

SO PAC: Our SCTF hit a low value TF at Cooktown, sinking all of the ships, before bombarding Cooktown itself. Several aircraft were destroyed, but this part was fairly ineffective. More intel than any real destruction. The Allied cruisers stayed in Portland Roads unfortunately.

The KB moved within range of Luganvilles LBA, and Jocke was incensed that the only ones that flew were a group of unescorted SBD that were slaughtered. The CAP was 120 planes, so even a bigger escorted strike would have found the going a bit difficult I think. At least this is what I'm hoping. Having the KB running around out here is asking for it, but I feel if I can shore up Ndeni, give it some supply and let the fields repair, it could give a month or two of extra time to the defenders. With better fighters coming online I'll soon be able to better challenge Allied raids in the area and at least make him pay for hitting the area. I'll keep the KB moving, and might even threaten Suva just to make sure he's still CAPing those rear bases heavily.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 7, 43
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Cooktown at 92,137, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba
CA Kako
CL Agano
CL Abukuma
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Murasame
DD Harusame, Shell hits 1
DD Samidare
DD Yuzuki
DD Tachikaze

Allied Ships
AM Dubbo, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
xAKL Sipirok, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Sipora, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
xAKL Prominent, Shell hits 52, and is sunk
xAKL Burwah, Shell hits 15, and is sunk
xAKL Mortlake Bank, Shell hits 31, and is sunk
xAKL Pelton Bank, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
xAKL Wollongbar, Shell hits 22, and is sunk
xAKL Yarra, Shell hits 15, and is sunk


Reduced sighting due to 25% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 25% moonlight: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 6,000 yards
Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 6,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...

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Night Naval bombardment of Cooktown at 92,137

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 7 damaged
Mitchell II: 2 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 2 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed on ground
B-25D1 Mitchell: 6 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed on ground

Japanese Ships
CA Kako
CA Aoba


Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)


Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10

CA Kako firing at 77th Coast AA Regiment
CA Aoba firing at Cooktown
E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for CL Abukuma
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Sub attack near Peleliu at 88,101

Japanese Ships
xAK Holland Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Taibun Maru
PB Kaikei Maru

Allied Ships
SS Trout

SS Trout launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Holland Maru
PB Kaikei Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Utupua at 122,144

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 64
A6M5b Zero x 46
A6M5c Zero x 12

Allied aircraft
SBD-5 Dauntless x 18


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 9 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 38

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 3


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
204 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 21 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
Hiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes


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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 35

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 31000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 15

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 31000 feet

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Reinforcements: By the time the planes that use it are in R n D production, the engine bonus for the Ha-43 could be in effect at current rates of research.

SS I-37 arrives at Nagasaki/Sasebo

Device Mitsubishi Ha-43 advances R&D


Losses: Another xAK.

xAK Holland Maru

Ships Sunk: Not much, but I'l take it.

AM Dubbo is reported to have been sunk near Cooktown on Jul 07, 1943
xAKL Sipirok is reported to have been sunk near Cooktown on Jul 07, 1943
xAKL Sipora is reported to have been sunk near Cooktown on Jul 07, 1943
xAKL Prominent is reported to have been sunk near Cooktown on Jul 07, 1943
xAKL Burwah is reported to have been sunk near Cooktown on Jul 07, 1943
xAKL Mortlake Bank is reported to have been sunk near Cooktown on Jul 07, 1943
xAKL Pelton Bank is reported to have been sunk near Cooktown on Jul 07, 1943
xAKL Wollongbar is reported to have been sunk near Cooktown on Jul 07, 1943
xAKL Yarra is reported to have been sunk near Cooktown on Jul 07, 1943

Previous report of sinking of CLAA San Juan incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
Previous report of sinking of SS KIX incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service

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A great pic of the Holland Maru.
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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/14/2012 3:12:20 PM   
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quote:

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Yes, even if i think a wise Japanese player needs to start saving supplies as soon as possible, avoiding building up bases which are non-MUST and wisely use the replacements function.
Later on the supply expenditure will be so high (when the B24s will cripple all our bases) that every sip of supply will matter i fear...




GJ, One question that I don't know. Do you think it wiser for the Japanese player to refrain from rebuilding lost infantry units? It seems like it would take up a lot of supply to rebuild a division and Japan really gets a lot of them anyways. As the Allies I have destroyed quite a few Japanese units but aside from the obvious, base and aviation support, it must be very expensive in supply for the future to rebuild.


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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/14/2012 3:44:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Yes, even if i think a wise Japanese player needs to start saving supplies as soon as possible, avoiding building up bases which are non-MUST and wisely use the replacements function.
Later on the supply expenditure will be so high (when the B24s will cripple all our bases) that every sip of supply will matter i fear...




GJ, One question that I don't know. Do you think it wiser for the Japanese player to refrain from rebuilding lost infantry units? It seems like it would take up a lot of supply to rebuild a division and Japan really gets a lot of them anyways. As the Allies I have destroyed quite a few Japanese units but aside from the obvious, base and aviation support, it must be very expensive in supply for the future to rebuild.



One reason to rebuild a division is if it is restricted to China, for instance. It will return with very few squads and can thus be bought out very cheaply and sent anywhere else once rebuilt. I would say unless it's very late game and Japan holds only a small amount of territory, it would always make sense to rebuild a division, even if you have to do it slowly, or only partially.

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/15/2012 3:50:22 PM   
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8-10 July 1943
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SUBS: Looks like I can score one for the ASW teams on the 8th. A rare attack that didn't go well for the Allies. E W-13 drops four direct hits on Snapper, leaving her with heavy damage. Of course the same day an IJN sub got nailed in So Pac without being able to get to a TF of tankers. It might make it back with 65 float damage, but it's got a ways to go. Several more escorts and xAK are hit during th next few days.

NORTH PACIFIC: All quiet.

WEST OZ: Bombing runs hit troops on the 9th and 10th, creating some disruption and disablements. I'm content to sit and wait as his troops move down the long thin road through the desert. I'll bomb from the air and the sea eventually, but he's still only 1 hex from Geraldton with the stack, now looking like a solid 65k troops.

BURMA: Nothing.

SO PAC: Lightnings come in to Port Moresby and the zeros don't do too badly getting just better than 1:2 against them. I'll continue to take that over my base while I have to use the A6M.

The KB popped down to the East of the New Hebrides to threaten Suva. It seems more fighters were added to increase defenses as a result of this move. The KB then popped back to the area around Ndeni, staying at least 7 hexes from the bombers based at Luganville, both so there would be less of a chance they would fly and so that loads would be for extended distance (smaller bombs, no TT). There are a bunch of subs in the area, and most are picked out by extensive search and ASW every turn, but eventually Jocke will likely concentrate them. I'm trying to lead them into minefields and heavy ASW presence, but other than the many attack messages each turn, I have no idea whether ASW is effective. Sweeps continue over Ndeni, but bombing has stopped in the area and the fields are near repaired. Once they are in operating order I'll bring in fighters and retire the KB to the Kirakira area, still in striking range but not in danger.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 8, 43
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Sub attack near Tandjoengselor at 69,95

Japanese Ships
PB Toshi Maru #3
PB Nichi Maru #1
TK San Luis Maru
TK Nihon Maru
E W-13

Allied Ships
SS Snapper, hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

SS Snapper launches 2 torpedoes at PB Toshi Maru #3
Snapper diving deep ....
E W-13 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-13 attacking submerged sub ....
E W-13 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-13 attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 10
A6M5 Zero x 36

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 2 destroyed

CAP engaged:
582 Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
204 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (7 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
Sasebo Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000
Raid is overhead
Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
Hiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes

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ASW attack near Efate at 117,155

Japanese Ships
SS I-3, hits 7, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Buchanan
TK Talang Akar
TK Iris
TK Angelina
DD Duncan

SS I-3 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Buchanan
I-3 diving deep ....
DD Duncan fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Buchanan attacking submerged sub ....
DD Buchanan fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 9, 43
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Sub attack near Manokwari at 88,104

Japanese Ships
xAKL Shoan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Yamura Maru
xAK Uji Maru
xAK Oigawa Maru
xAK Kuraido Maru
xAK Kotobuki Maru #5
xAK Daifuku Maru
xAK Chojun Maru
xAKL Kokuyo Maru
PB Tokihime Maru

Allied Ships
SS Trout

SS Trout launches 2 torpedoes at xAKL Shoan Maru
PB Tokihime Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on 9th Division, at 49,133 (Carnarvon)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 12
B-17E Fortress x 40
LB-30 Liberator x 15
B-24D Liberator x 55
B-24D1 Liberator x 44
P-38G Lightning x 25

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Hudson I bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 10, 43
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ASW attack near Saipan at 106,88

Japanese Ships
PB Kyo Maru #8, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Magan Maru

Allied Ships
SS Billfish

SS Billfish launches 2 torpedoes at PB Kyo Maru #8
PB Magan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Magan Maru attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on 56th Division, at 49,133 (Carnarvon)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 12
B-17E Fortress x 42
LB-30 Liberator x 3
B-24D Liberator x 39
B-24D1 Liberator x 46

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
181 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Hudson I bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Ndeni , at 120,143

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 22

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 4 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 31000 feet *

CAP engaged:
201 Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (22 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(22 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
22 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead

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Sub attack near Etorofu at 127,54

Japanese Ships
SC CHa-30, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
xAK Sangetsu Maru
PB Choyo Maru #2

Allied Ships
SS Tullibee

SS Tullibee launches 2 torpedoes at SC CHa-30
Tullibee diving deep ....
PB Choyo Maru #2 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Reinforcements: The next Oscar is still a ways away, and not much better than the IIb. The goal is to get the final version with cannons early enough to make it useful. I'm not sure though that it will be. We'll see.

Aircraft Ki-43-IIIa Oscar advances R&D

Losses: A few less valuable ships hit.

Loss of xAKL Shoan Maru on Jul 09, 1943 is admitted
Loss of SC CHa-30 on Jul 10, 1943 is admitted


Ships Sunk: Again it looks like confirmation of ships I was pretty sure were hit hard enough to go down. Nearly a year later than the attack.

TK Hagood is reported to have been sunk near Suva on Oct 06, 1942
TK Esso Durban is reported to have been sunk near Niuafo'ou on Oct 26, 1942

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The aggressive use of the KB has been something I've needed to use throughout this game. Right now I feel that Jocke has only two options for advance until later in the year when he has a larger CV presence; up to Ndeni and into the Solomons, or across to New Guinea from NE OZ a la MacArthur. The KB can play a part in either area supported by LBA. He's focused much of his strength on these two approaches as far as I can tell. It is a risk to sail these valuable ships around with subs and massed LBA, but so far I've been lucky!

Also, the KB has a limited shelf-life that is coming close to the expiry date. If I can cause even a few months delay to operations at risk of a CV getting hit by a sub now, it still might be worth the cost.

I'm building Kirakira and Rennel Islands into advanced fighter bases (stopping at fields level 3) and Stewart island into a seaplane ASW/search base.

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SUBS (daily tithe): PB Minowa Maru lost on the 11th to the Pargo. AS Kimishima Maru was hit and sunk by the Grunion. Shiranui was one of the escort and managed to put a few good hits on the sub, but nothing serious.

NORTH PACIFIC: Quiet.

WEST OZ: One big raid on the 13th of 150 4E takes out a good number of vehicles which sends AA units into high levels of disruption. At least there is a lot of supply at the base for now. I'm healing everything he knocks out within a few days.

BURMA: An interesting raid came in on the 14th. Jocke sent only one sweep of brand new P-40N1 to Meiktila. I had over 50 fighters get int the air, and well rested good quality units. They took out about 10 of the sweepers, but once the bombing mission of 85 B-25C showed up they could't break through in spite of destroying the entire escort. I still can't touch his bombers, which is really frustrating. Although it was a poorly chosen base to raid, being in the middle of the swarm of fighter groups in Central Burma, it is one that has no radar, which likely saved the bombers. Only about half the fighters made it in time before the raid, but unfortunately they didn't hit them on their way home at all.

SO PAC: I continue to dodge the KB around Ndeni and the surrounding islands. He hasn't tested it out here in terms of sending sweeps or bombing missions, so it seems it's gavin gut desired effect.

Hellcats hit A6M3a at Merauke, and we lost 9 but got 5 of his.

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Sub attack near Iriomote at 91,62

Japanese Ships
PB Minowa Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
SC CHa-12
xAKL Tensyo Maru
PB Menado Maru

Allied Ships
SS Pargo

SS Pargo launches 2 torpedoes at PB Minowa Maru
Pargo diving deep ....
PB Menado Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on Merauke , at 89,124

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 20

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 3


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
958 Ku T-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 11 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Merauke , at 89,124

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 31000 feet

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 18, 43
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Sub attack near Saipan at 115,96

Japanese Ships
AS Kimishima Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AS Fushimi Maru
DD Shiranui

Allied Ships
SS Grunion, hits 3

SS Grunion launches 4 torpedoes at AS Kimishima Maru
Grunion diving deep ....
DD Shiranui attacking submerged sub ....
DD Shiranui fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 13, 43
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Morning Air attack on 56th Division, at 49,133 (Carnarvon)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 44
LB-30 Liberator x 3
B-24D Liberator x 50
B-24D1 Liberator x 45


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
169 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 12 (2 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 14, 43
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Morning Air attack on Meiktila , at 58,47

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 7
J2M2 Jack x 26
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 10
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 10
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 4

Allied aircraft
P-40N1 Warhawk x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N1 Warhawk: 4 destroyed

CAP engaged:
Ominato Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 7 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
54th Sentai Det A with Ki-61-Ib Tony (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Raid is overhead
78th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(13 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with J2M2 Jack (5 airborne, 4 on standby, 17 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Meiktila , at 58,47

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 7
J2M2 Jack x 25
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 8
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 12
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 4

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 84
P-40K Warhawk x 18


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 3 damaged
P-40K Warhawk: 5 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 35
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 82

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Reinforcements: Lots of nice new Es.

934 Ku T-1 arrives at Tokyo
131st Naval Construction Battalion arrives at Hiroshima/Kure
SC CHa-62 arrives at Ominato
E W-27 arrives at Tokyo
E W-33 arrives at Tokyo
E Maeshima arrives at Tokyo

Aircraft B6N2a Jill advances R&D
Aircraft D5Y1 Myojo advances R&D


Losses: Not so bad. I have several more AS lined up and this one was with another heading to Nauru as back-up for the one at Shortlands.

Loss of PB Minowa Maru on Jul 11, 1943 is admitted
AS Kimishima Maru


Ships Sunk: Woohoo! A PT!

PT-163 is reported to have been sunk near Efate on Apr 23, 1943
Previous report of sinking of SS Dolphin incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
SS Gudgeon is reported to have been sunk near Fukue-jima on Apr 26, 1943

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The first small group today upgrades to the George. I hope to be able to surprise Jocke soon with these guys!
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SUBS: The subs began to get dangerous in So Pac during these turns. A shot at the KB 1 on the 15th near Ndeni by the Grayback a shiver in my spine. Then the Sealion actually targeted Katsuragi later in the day. Time to move!

Although I shifted all TFs to Reef Islands, a shallow hex, subs got attacks in before the movement and some followed there as well. In the SCTF the BB Nagato took a TT and will have to head home for a fix and will get radar and an AA refit as well. It's at only 28 float damage, so should be fine. The Sealion on the other hand, which shot the spread, took 17 hits and should be in trouble. Grayback also took a bunch of direct shots.

Also on the 15th the Jack hit AO Kyokuto Maru with two TT, and I thought she was a goner. Luckily the ship was empty and therefore didn't burn up, ending up with about 65 float damage. I sent it two hexes away to the size one port at Kuroshima to settle for a week or so. Then I'll transfer to Nagasaki.

NORTH PACIFIC: Nothing.

WEST OZ: On the 15th, 16th and 17th 100 4E hit Carnarvon troops again. Troops are recovering well, though. Only the AA units have major disruption.

BURMA: Nothing.

SO PAC: On the 16th I accidentally had a TF move right into LBA range near Port Moresby. It was trying to get to Singapore and was on normal threat avoidance levels, so I'm not sure why it went this way into a known nest of 200 fighters and 150 bombers. It had just dropped fuel off at Rabaul. Jocke wrote and thought I was going for Hon Island, so I guess it was a useful diversion at least.

Anyway, one xAK was lost when 2 (!) Banshees made it through the LR CAP and both scored hits. Wow. Good shootin. Then B-25D came in skip bombing with good results. I have two xAK burning which will head to Port Moresby. The rest will go to Rabaul. At least i know what's here and got to shoot a few planes down.

A sweep hit Ndeni on the 17th and I have to say I'm a bit underwhelmed by the Jack in this first combat. With good pilots it took more losses than the Tojos, which were more numerous. LR CAP was a major factor in the second sweep, wiping out the defenders for no losses. Hmmmmm.

On the 18th at Port Moresby the CAP does well and gets even numbers against Hellcat and Lightning sweeps.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 15, 43
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Sub attack near Kuroshima at 98,61

Japanese Ships
AO Kyokuto Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
SC Ch 9
AO Shinkoku Maru
TK San Ramon Maru
TK Otowasan Maru
DD Ikazuchi
E Kyosai

Allied Ships
SS Jack

SS Jack launches 4 torpedoes at AO Kyokuto Maru
Jack diving deep ....
DD Ikazuchi fails to find sub and abandons search
E Kyosai attacking submerged sub ....
E Kyosai fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Ndeni at 121,143

Japanese Ships
CV Katsuragi
BB Kirishima
CA Chikuma
CL Oyodo
DD Yugumo
DD Asanagi
DD Minazuki
DD Onami

Allied Ships
SS Sealion

SS Sealion launches 6 torpedoes at CV Katsuragi
DD Asanagi fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Minazuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Onami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Onami fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 16, 43
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Sub attack near Eniwetok at 125,101

Japanese Ships
xAK Chile Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
xAK Oregon Maru
PB Hirota Maru

Allied Ships
SS Scamp

SS Scamp launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Chile Maru
Scamp diving deep ....
PB Hirota Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 96,131

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Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 13


Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 2
P-40K Warhawk x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed

Japanese Ships
xAK Tonegawa Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x A-24 Banshee releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
582 Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (13 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(13 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 96,131

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 6
A6M5 Zero x 10

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 8
P-40K Warhawk x 25


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 5 damaged
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
xAK Burma Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Tokusima Maru
xAK Sinno Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Izan Maru
xAK Rasin Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
2 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Naval Attack: 1 plane(s) with no ordnance
Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
14 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 14000 feet *
2 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 96,131

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 5
A6M5 Zero x 10
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 15

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 destroyed

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Sub attack near Jesselton at 68,85

Japanese Ships
xAK Midori Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
SC CHa-15
SC CHa-14
xAK Uyo Maru
xAK Meisho Maru
xAK Iwaki Maru
PB Hozugawa Maru
PB Daitei Maru
SC CHa-49

Allied Ships
SS Swordfish

SS Swordfish launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Midori Maru
Swordfish diving deep ....
PB Hozugawa Maru fails to find sub and abandons search
PB Daitei Maru fails to find sub and abandons search
SC CHa-49 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 17, 43
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ASW attack near Reef Islands at 121,142

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Torpedo hits 1
DD Tanikaze

Allied Ships
SS Sealion, hits 18

SS Sealion launches 6 torpedoes at BB Nagato
Sealion bottoming out ....
DD Tanikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Tanikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tanikaze attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Reef Islands at 121,142

Japanese Ships
DD Yudachi

Allied Ships
SS Grayback

SS Grayback is sighted by escort
DD Yudachi fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Ndeni at 121,143

Japanese Ships
DD Ushio
DD Sawakaze
DD Hayate

Allied Ships
SS S-47, hits 1

SS S-47 launches 4 torpedoes at DD Ushio
S-47 diving deep ....
DD Hayate fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hayate attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Reef Islands at 121,142

Japanese Ships
DD Yudachi

Allied Ships
SS Grayback, hits 7

SS Grayback launches 2 torpedoes at DD Yudachi
DD Yudachi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yudachi attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yudachi is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Iloilo at 80,84

Japanese Ships
xAKL Junpo Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PB Kyo Maru #1

Allied Ships
SS Raton

SS Raton launches 2 torpedoes at xAKL Junpo Maru
Raton bottoming out ....
PB Kyo Maru #1 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on Ndeni , at 120,143

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 6
J2M2 Jack x 22
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 17
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 17
F6F-3 Hellcat x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed
J2M2 Jack: 3 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed


CAP engaged:
201 Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
802 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 13 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
21st Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
70th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Ndeni , at 120,143

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 6
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 6
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 16
F4U-1 Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 3 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 31000 feet

CAP engaged:
802 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
21st Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
70th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 25000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 18, 43
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Sub attack near Ndeni at 120,142

Japanese Ships
AK Brisbane Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage Didn't sink and made it to deliver troops
AK Hawaii Maru
DD Oite

Allied Ships
SS S-35

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

SS S-35 launches 2 torpedoes at AK Brisbane Maru
S-35 diving deep ....
DD Oite attacking submerged sub ....
DD Oite cannot establish contact with SS S-35
DD Oite cannot reach attack position over SS S-35
DD Oite attacking submerged sub ....
SS S-35 eludes ASW attack from DD Oite
DD Oite cannot reach attack position over SS S-35
SS S-35 eludes ASW attack from DD Oite
DD Oite cannot establish contact with SS S-35
DD Oite fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Donggala at 67,97

Japanese Ships
xAK Yamafuku Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Wa 9
SC CHa-5
TK Samui Maru
xAK Shinkoku Maru
xAK Hasuna Maru
E Shirataka
PB Wa 20

Allied Ships
SS Bowfin

SS Bowfin launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Yamafuku Maru
Bowfin diving deep ....
E Shirataka fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Wa 20 fails to find sub and abandons search
E Shirataka fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Afternoon Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 10
A6M5 Zero x 54
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 5
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 11

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

CAP engaged:
582 Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 10 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
204 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 15 on standby, 21 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 34000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
Hiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
85th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Raid is overhead
203rd Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 10
A6M5 Zero x 46
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 3
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 11

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38H Lightning: 2 destroyed

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ASW attack near Tapul at 73,90

Japanese Ships
DD Yugiri
DD Namikaze

Allied Ships
SS KXVII, hits 6

SS KXVII is located by DD Yugiri
DD Namikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Namikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Namikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Namikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Namikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Reinforcements: Still making a few RO subs to mass in So Pac between islands in the future.

SS RO-103 arrives at Yokohama/Yokosuka

Aircraft J2M3 Jack advances R&D
Aircraft N1K2-J George advances R&D


Losses:

Loss of xAKL Junpo Maru on Jul 17, 1943 is admitted
Loss of xAK Yamafuku Maru on Jul 18, 1943 is admitted
xAK Chile Maru
xAK Tonegawa Maru
xAK Yamafuku Maru


Ships Sunk:

Previous report of sinking of SS Billfish incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
PT-162 is reported to have been sunk near Efate on Apr 24, 1943
SS Plunger is reported to have been sunk near Taihoku on Feb 22, 1943
xAP Illisos is reported to have been sunk near Raoul Island on Aug 28, 1942

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We upgraded to the new patch. one thing I noticed immediately was more fragments in bombers coming in for a raid. I'll have to watch this to see if it is a trend. Could bode well for the defenders. I'd like to start seeing more 4E in smaller pieces coming up against CAP, at least if there is any left after the first wave goes through.
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We upgraded to the new patch. one thing I noticed immediately was more fragments in bombers coming in for a raid. I'll have to watch this to see if it is a trend. Could bode well for the defenders. I'd like to start seeing more 4E in smaller pieces coming up against CAP, at least if there is any left after the first wave goes through.


I have notice that to For both sides. After upgrading to beta i have never seen bomber flying in one big wave. Last turn 150 allied heavies raid was shattered on 12 separate waves of 10-20 bombers. Earlier attack usualy in 2-3 big waves. Also Japanese bombers have difficulty with coordination

If this is real and not only what we wish , defending against 4E raid will be much esier because we will have bigger chance to gain numeric superiority vs single wave.



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ORIGINAL: koniu

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We upgraded to the new patch. one thing I noticed immediately was more fragments in bombers coming in for a raid. I'll have to watch this to see if it is a trend. Could bode well for the defenders. I'd like to start seeing more 4E in smaller pieces coming up against CAP, at least if there is any left after the first wave goes through.


I have notice that to For both sides. After upgrading to beta i have never seen bomber flying in one big wave. Last turn 150 allied heavies raid was shattered on 12 separate waves of 10-20 bombers. Earlier attack usualy in 2-3 big waves. Also Japanese bombers have difficulty with coordination

If this is real and not only what we wish , defending against 4E raid will be much esier because we will have bigger chance to gain numeric superiority vs single wave.



I'm just about to post on this based on a big raid in Burma. Interesting how it worked, but difficult with LR CAP that still hovers over and protects the late fragments. I'll begin and hopefully get up the post soon to illustrate what I mean.


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Burma just got interesting again. A massive raid launched into the very center of my defenses at Mandalay. There is a tight web of interlocking bases here. More than 300 fighters are in range, and all were set to combinations of CAP/LR CAP to help each other. Unfortunately I realized later, there is no radar yet at Mandalay. While that made the defense less responsive than it could have been, there was still a stout effort by the groups in the area.

This raid brought up an interesting discussion of our use of offensive LR CAP. We've decided to allow LR CAP with sweeps but in this case it also worked to support the bombing raids extensively. I'm not sure how to avoid this, but with Allied group sizes and the way the escorts (don't) work, some LR CAP is probably needed. It is not perfect for either side and provides unlikely outcomes, as is seen below. I've included all report information for this attack, with some notes about the Allied LR CAP affecting very late fragments arriving.

I'm definitely seeing some differences in the new Patch. Many more fragments for big bomber raids for sure. So far I LOVE coastal routing though.

SUBS: Lost another xAK to the Pargo near Chichi-Jima.

SO PAC: On the 19th the CAP at Port Moresby again tangles with Hellcats sweeping. Same kind of results.

BURMA: The main show happened in Burma. Mandalay was the target. A decent CAP arrived for the first sweep and the main bomber raid. The CAP was devastated by the first use of the P-47 (on LR CAP) by the Allies. The first sweep of Corsairs with 3 groups of LR CAP added in got a 4:1 kill ratio. Not a good start for the defenders.

Next, the main bomber raid was nailed after the CAP broke through escorts and LR CAP, taking down mainly P-40s and 2E bombers.Several more large chunks came through, then the dribbles and drabs started going in. These should mostly have been unescorted but instead were supported by LR CAP that effectively let them get through. As a result many bombers were not destroyed, many planes were hit on the ground late and any planes set to interdict bombers at lower altitudes were continually lower than the LR CAP. This is the most difficult part for me. Once the LR CAP dives, it should stay down. Instead they get back to diving in and crush anything lower, like the 37 Nicks taken down today, the 31 Tojos set to 20k, or the 25 A6M5 at 20k. As many of these small groups got through to hit the fields damage also now is too great to risk flying fro this base at 71 field/56 service damage. Total plane losses for each side is right around 100 planes.

We've sent a few messages back and forth and are trying to figure this out. What to do? I can't justify having an HR ruling out LR CAP altogether as the Allies would not be able to sweep or fly bombing missions without depleting their pools right away. But if we allow LR CAP the results of a raid against the strongest point of defense on the map is completely overwhelming and detrimental to future defense of the area.

Another major concern or me is that there is no information for the altitude of LR CAP as there is for other missions. So it can't be combatted in any directed way, although I probably couldn't equal the altitude anyway.

Any ideas?

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 19, 43
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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9
A6M5 Zero x 28
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 5
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 11

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
582 Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 9 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
204 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
Hiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
85th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 11 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
203rd Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Carnarvon , at 49,133

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 16

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 31000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9
A6M5 Zero x 24
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 5
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 10

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 2

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 20, 43
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SUBS
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Sub attack near Chichi-jima at 114,81

Japanese Ships
xAK Toyooka Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
SC Ch 39
xAK Delagoa Maru
E W-17
PB Kinsyo Maru #4

Allied Ships
SS Pargo, hits 2

SS Pargo launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Toyooka Maru
Pargo diving deep ....
E W-17 attacking submerged sub ....
PB Kinsyo Maru #4 fails to find sub and abandons search
E W-17 attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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BURMA
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Allied LR CAP - Orange

Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 44
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 7
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 51
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 64
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 17

Defensive CAP starts with 183 planes listed, though some take time to arrive in the battle.

Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 11
P-40N5 Warhawk x 12
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 12


Heavy presence of LR CAP provides sweep with a devastating advantage, winning a 4:1 kill ratio in spite of being outnumbered. A good advantage should be gained because of plane quality, but once the dive is finished, these guys should be surrounded by huge numbers if not for the LR CAP.

F4U-1 Corsair x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 6 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 5 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 3 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-38F Lightning: 2 destroyed
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
18 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 31000 feet

CAP engaged:
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 7 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
54th Sentai Det A with Ki-61-Ib Tony (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 10 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
251 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 23 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 17 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 35000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 19 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 12 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 35200.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 32 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 36740.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
27th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (5 airborne, 4 on standby, 13 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 34000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 6 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 32
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 7
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 43
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 48
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 8

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 18
Blenheim VD x 3
Liberator II x 3
B-17F Fortress x 12
B-24D1 Liberator x 45
B-25C Mitchell x 45
B-26 Marauder x 15
P-38E Lightning x 6
P-38F Lightning x 7

P-40K Warhawk x 32
P-40N5 Warhawk x 6
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 16


Allied LR CAP is a factor but the CAP is strong enough to cause major losses to the bomber formation, escorts and the LR CAP itself.

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 3 damaged


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Blenheim VD: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-17F Fortress: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged
P-38E Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-38F Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 2 destroyed


Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 34
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 77

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Blenheim IV bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
3 x Blenheim VD bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
2 x Blenheim IV bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
3 x Liberator II bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
251 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling)
21 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 35690.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 82 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 12 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 16 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 35000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 8 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
19 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 74 minutes
27th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
14 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 35200.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
54th Sentai Det A with Ki-61-Ib Tony (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 21030.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 31
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 4
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 35
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 31
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 3

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 15
Wellington Ic x 3
B-24D1 Liberator x 6
B-25C Mitchell x 6
P-38E Lightning x 9
P-38F Lightning x 9

P-40K Warhawk x 43
P-40N5 Warhawk x 6
F6F-3 Hellcat x 12


Allied LR CAP is present, but the numbers of defensive CAP let them mostly get to the escorts and bombers.

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 6 destroyed, 2 damaged
Wellington Ic: 1 destroyed
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-38F Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 4 destroyed


Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Blenheim IV bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
1 x Wellington Ic bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
251 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling)
18 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 34000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 75 minutes
29 planes vectored on to bombers
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 86 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 8 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 34000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 75 minutes
16 planes vectored on to bombers
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling)
14 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
18 planes vectored on to bombers
27th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
54th Sentai Det A with Ki-61-Ib Tony (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 30
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 3
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 25
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 22
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 1

Allied aircraft
Blenheim VD x 12
Wellington Ic x 6
B-24D Liberator x 3
B-24D1 Liberator x 3
B-25C Mitchell x 12
B-26B Marauder x 3
P-38F Lightning x 2
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 11


Big effect of Allied LR CAP here, with IJ fighters dying in droves. Some were likely hit by 4E, but probably not as many as have been destroyed here or the actual number, at least 50% more, that were destroyed in this phase of the raids. I have to watch the replay again to find out for sure. From here on there is no escort, only LR CAP. The defensive CAP thus gets depleted and eventually doesn't even show up of rate last several raids.

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim VD: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Wellington Ic: 1 destroyed
B-25C Mitchell: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged


Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Blenheim VD bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
2 x Wellington Ic bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x Wellington Ic bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
251 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
21 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
27 planes vectored on to bombers
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
11 planes vectored on to bombers
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
17 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
15 planes vectored on to bombers
27th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 22170.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 86 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 25
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 17
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 12
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 1

Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 12
P-38F Lightning x 2
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 9


This bomber groups likely would have just turned around if LR CAP was not here.

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington Ic: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Wellington Ic bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
251 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
19 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 81 minutes
17 planes vectored on to bombers
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes
13 planes vectored on to bombers
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Raid is overhead
27th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
1 planes vectored on to bombers

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 50 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 21
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 10
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 8
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 1

Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 12
P-38E Lightning x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed


Still good CAP numbers, but they are losing far greater numbers than they should with each fragment coming in.

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington Ic: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Wellington Ic bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
251 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 11
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 6
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 5

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12
P-40N5 Warhawk x 3
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 8
F6F-3 Hellcat x 9


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged

Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Blenheim IV bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
251 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 214 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 67 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 4
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 5
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 2

Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 12
P-40N5 Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Liberator II: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Liberator II bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
251 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 2
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1

Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 12
P-38E Lightning x 5
P-40N5 Warhawk x 3
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 17


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed


Allied LR CAP definitely taking part and killing off the last of the defensive CAP

No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Wellington Ic bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
251 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 69 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 12
P-38E Lightning x 5
F6F-3 Hellcat x 7


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
251 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9
P-40N5 Warhawk x 2 (escorts?)
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 7

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 8
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 9
P-38E Lightning x 5
P-38F Lightning x 2
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 14
F6F-3 Hellcat x 7


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 6
P-38E Lightning x 5
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 7
F6F-3 Hellcat x 7


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 50 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 9
P-38F Lightning x 2
P-38E Lightning x 5
P-40N5 Warhawk x 2
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 14
F6F-3 Hellcat x 7


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 9
P-38F Lightning x 2
P-40N5 Warhawk x 2
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 7
F6F-3 Hellcat x 7


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 6
P-38E Lightning x 5
P-38F Lightning x 2
P-40N5 Warhawk x 2


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 6
P-38E Lightning x 5
P-40N5 Warhawk x 2
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 14


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 6
P-38F Lightning x 2
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 14
F6F-3 Hellcat x 7


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 64 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 6
P-38E Lightning x 5
P-38F Lightning x 2
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 7


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 60 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-40N1 Warhawk x 23
P-40N5 Warhawk x 2
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 7


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x P-40N1 Warhawk sweeping at 15000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 69 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 2
P-38G Lightning x 23
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 7

I also got lucky that these sweeps came in late. I wouldn't have fared well against those.

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 31000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 39,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 5
P-40N5 Warhawk x 2

P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 30

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 35000 feet

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Reinforcements: None.

Losses: None.

Ships Sunk: Another on off the list.

Previous report of sinking of SS Sargo incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
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Judging by today's efforts, the Nick may have to be taken off of frontline groups and sent to areas outside of sweep range. I may try it as a bomber both against land and shipping targets as well.
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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/16/2012 8:59:40 PM   
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Burma just got interesting again. A massive raid launched into the very center of my defenses at Mandalay. There is a tight web of interlocking bases here. More than 300 fighters are in range, and all were set to combinations of CAP/LR CAP to help each other. Unfortunately I realized later, there is no radar yet at Mandalay. While that made the defense less responsive than it could have been, there was still a stout effort by the groups in the area.

This raid brought up an interesting discussion of our use of offensive LR CAP. We've decided to allow LR CAP with sweeps but in this case it also worked to support the bombing raids extensively. I'm not sure how to avoid this, but with Allied group sizes and the way the escorts (don't) work, some LR CAP is probably needed. It is not perfect for either side and provides unlikely outcomes, as is seen below. I've included all report information for this attack, with some notes about the Allied LR CAP affecting very late fragments arriving.

The main show happened in Burma. Mandalay was the target. A decent CAP arrived for the first sweep and the main bomber raid. The CAP was devastated by the first use of the P-47 (on LR CAP) by the Allies. The first sweep of Corsairs with 3 groups of LR CAP added in got a 4:1 kill ratio. Not a good start for the defenders.

Next, the main bomber raid was nailed after the CAP broke through escorts and LR CAP, taking down mainly P-40s and 2E bombers. Several more large chunks came through, then the dribbles and drabs started going in. These should mostly have been unescorted but instead were supported by LR CAP that effectively let them get through. As a result many bombers were not destroyed, many planes were hit on the ground late and any planes set to interdict bombers at lower altitudes were continually lower than the LR CAP. This is the most difficult part for me. Once the LR CAP dives, it should stay down. Instead they get back to diving in and crush anything lower, like the 37 Nicks taken down today, the 31 Tojos set to 20k, or the 25 A6M5 at 20k. As many of these small groups got through to hit the fields damage also now is too great to risk flying fro this base at 71 field/56 service damage. Total plane losses for each side is right around 100 planes.

We've sent a few messages back and forth and are trying to figure this out. What to do? I can't justify having an HR ruling out LR CAP altogether as the Allies would not be able to sweep or fly bombing missions without depleting their pools right away. But if we allow LR CAP the results of a raid against the strongest point of defense on the map is completely underwhelming and detrimental to future defense of the area.

Another major concern or me is that there is no information for the altitude of LR CAP as there is for other missions. So it can't be combatted in any directed way, although I probably couldn't equal the altitude anyway.

Any ideas?


Hi Erik,

You know my thoughts on LRCAP and are experiencing the same thing I did in my last AAR. I have wracked my brain trying to come up with a counter and I just don't see it. I don't think there is a solution working within the framework of the air model and the rock/paper/scissors format.

I think you just have to rely on radar, layered CAP and hope the AI commits your forces in mass. If committed in strength and you don't get bounced every time you have a chance to bleed the Allied aircraft pools. Otherwise, it's just wait until your CAP is degraded after the initial 3-4 offensive missions and watch it committed in one's and two's thereafter to be bounced continually and slaughtered.

Sadly, unless you can cycle in more fresh air units than Jocke can, you'll lose air superiority after a few more attacks like this or have no functioning airbases to operate from anyway.

I'm glad to see this isn't strictly a PDU off problem from being forced to use inferior planes like I did (Oscar), but also saddened that PDU on doesn't change anything either. LRCAP used offensively is simply a killer regardless of game preferences.

Others will suggest that you bomb Allied airbases to force Jocke to CAP rather than LRCAP. Well, we both know how that will go so unless you are willing to sacrifice hundreds of bombers there has to be another way. I'll be the first to offer an idea if I get one, but right now I'm at a loss.

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/16/2012 9:43:59 PM   
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Yep.That's what I thought. The next day was a bit better for me actually, only because one P-47 sweep showed up late. I think it looks like we might just have to go as is for now. Jocke made a good point that the Allies would have been sweeping low over bases to take out fighters on the ground as well as having multi-layered bombing, neither of which is really possible in AE as the air model currently works. Wouldn't it be cool if you could strafe and hit something? Para-frag?

Anyway. I can see that the new patch and the fragmentary strikes are going to equalize extreme results and could be really good for the late game. No longer will the 200 passes rule let the offensive player stack crap escorts to get bombers through every time. That is enough to make the LR CAP even much easier to deal with.

One advantage I have here is a very fortified Burma. Most bases are level 5-6 forts, so bombing strength is slightly reduced. Also, certain bases are stacked with AA and have a ton of engineers to get things online again. In the meantime I can rotate groups to several rear bases and get some rested up. He has to be hurting too, especially in 2E bombers. I may not see Wellingtons for a while! So the next strikes will likely not be as tough. I have a good pool of Tojos and enough of Tonys, A6M5 and Nicks for an extended period. The George is the key though. The 251 Ku S-1 (formerly Tainan Ku S-1) is changing to the now and will be up and running in a few days. The one Jack group here actually is doing okay as well, getting slightly better than even kills to losses. That's good right now against the Corsairs, Hellcats, Lightnings and P-47s he's sweeping with.

So I'll just keep going and hope for the best!



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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/17/2012 10:27:31 AM   
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21 - 22 July 1943
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SUBS: A surprisingly good 2 hit attack on the Raton near the PI. Maybe it was already damaged?

BURMA: Another big raid in Burma, this time at Magwe. I don't think Jocke will be happy with this one. I also think he's pushing a bit too hard here. His pools may be full after little activity in the past few months, but two big strikes in two days has to wear out the pilots. I would think a big raid followed by multiple sweeps the next few days would be preferable.

At the end of the day the losses showed:

IJ - 47
Allies - 86

Many of his were 2E bombers again. This is the first time I've gotten to them so effectively. Usually I'll get a few passes before the A to A phase is finished and they go off to wipe my airfields. I'm not sure if this is related to the fragmentation or not, but it seems accurate that a CAP this large should have a chance at the bombers.

The next day a Hurricane sweep came in. He hasn't used these much in an offensive role. I'm surprised they did as well as they did.

SO PAC: A few sweeps into Ndeni do fairly well, but the CAP does hold. Meaning there would still be some left to hit a bombing strike if it came after. On the 22nd though sweeps to Vanikoro hit only LR CAP, doing very well against them.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 21, 43
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SO PAC
These two sweeps at Ndeni did not break up into smaller fragments. I wonder if distance is factored into this since they appeared to be flying from Torres Island, only 4 hexes away.
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Morning Air attack on Ndeni , at 120,143

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 7
A6M5 Zero x 19
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 20
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
201 Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
Junyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 6 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
21st Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
70th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 28000 and 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Ndeni , at 120,143

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 5
A6M5 Zero x 15
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 12

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
201 Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 114 minutes
Junyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 33000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 76 minutes
70th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 33000 and 40000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 92 minutes

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BURMA
Two non-fragmented sweeps come in first even though there are severe storms. After this the first 132 bombers are supported by escort and LR CAP as they come in to make their bombing runs. The losses are most severe in this section actually. Later, once the CAP is worn down (or maybe the fragments represent areas of the airspace the CAP was not present in) the bombers get a free run at the fields.

About 41% thus had no CAP attack them while all of the losses were from the 59% that had escorting support.
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Afternoon Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 14
J2M2 Jack x 10
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 73
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 6
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 6
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 12

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 6
F4U-1 Corsair x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed

CAP engaged:
Ominato Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 14 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(24 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
78th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
1st Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (16 airborne, 7 on standby, 15 scrambling)
23 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 30000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (7 airborne, 2 on standby, 6 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
54th Sentai Det A with Ki-61-Ib Tony (2 airborne, 2 on standby, 6 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 34000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 12
J2M2 Jack x 9
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 70
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 9
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 5
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 13

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 6
P-40N1 Warhawk x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N1 Warhawk: 3 destroyed

CAP engaged:
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 22000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
78th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
Ominato Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 30000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 65 minutes
1st Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
33 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 34000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 57 minutes
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
54th Sentai Det A with Ki-61-Ib Tony (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 11
J2M2 Jack x 9
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 59
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 9
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 4
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 11

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 13
B-24D1 Liberator x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
P-40K Warhawk: 2 destroyed


Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Blenheim IV bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
78th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
Ominato Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 11 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
11 planes vectored on to bombers
Zuikaku-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 9 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
1st Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 31 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
34 planes vectored on to bombers
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
54th Sentai Det A with Ki-61-Ib Tony (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 12 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
12 planes vectored on to bombers

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Afternoon Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 11
J2M2 Jack x 6
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 46
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 6
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 2
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 8

Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Liberator II: 8 damaged
Liberator II: 1 destroyed by flak

16 Liberators take out 3-5 planes (I think there were more than are listed here) for no outright losses against a large CAP presence, at least 24 of which were there at the very start of the battle.

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Liberator II bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Ominato Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
10 planes vectored on to bombers
Zuikaku-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
1st Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
28 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 137 minutes
26 planes vectored on to bombers
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Raid is overhead
1 planes vectored on to bombers
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 60 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
1 planes vectored on to bombers
54th Sentai Det A with Ki-61-Ib Tony (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 121 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
78th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers

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Afternoon Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 10
J2M2 Jack x 4
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 39
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 5
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 7

Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 16
P-40K Warhawk x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Wellington Ic: 6 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-40K Warhawk: 4 destroyed


Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Wellington Ic bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Ominato Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
Zuikaku-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
1st Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
21 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes
21 planes vectored on to bombers
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
54th Sentai Det A with Ki-61-Ib Tony (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
78th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers

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Afternoon Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 63 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 5
J2M2 Jack x 4
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 32
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 5

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 31
B-26B Marauder x 14
P-38G Lightning x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed


Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
1st Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (17 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
17 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 56 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
Ominato Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 73 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
54th Sentai Det A with Ki-61-Ib Tony (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
78th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers

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Afternoon Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 5
J2M2 Jack x 2
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 14
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 1
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 4

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 12
B-24D1 Liberator x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 5 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Ominato Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 69 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 117 minutes
1st Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 145 minutes
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
54th Sentai Det A with Ki-61-Ib Tony (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
78th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead

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Afternoon Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 2
J2M2 Jack x 2
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 6
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 1

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 destroyed, 8 damaged

Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Ominato Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes
1st Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes
54th Sentai Det A with Ki-61-Ib Tony (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
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From this point on the CAP was non-existent, so the later fragments got a free shot at the fields (this Jack didn't make it in time to hit the bombers here). These fragments amount to 93 bombers with no CAP presence at all to thwart them, only flak.
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Afternoon Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 55 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 1

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Runway hits 3

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Afternoon Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 13
Runway hits 10

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Afternoon Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 14

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

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Afternoon Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 29

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 5

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Afternoon Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 8

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1

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Afternoon Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 40,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 18

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 35000 feet

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 22, 43
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SUBS
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Sub attack near Siargao at 86,90

Japanese Ships
E Matsuwa
SC Ch 5
AV Sanyo Maru
AO Toho Maru
TK Asashio Maru
TK Tatekawa Maru
TK Itukusima Maru
DD Shiokaze
DD Umikaze

Allied Ships
SS Raton, hits 2, heavy damage

SS Raton launches 2 torpedoes at E Matsuwa
DD Shiokaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Umikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Umikaze attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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SO PAC
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Morning Air attack on Vanikoro , at 121,145

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 15
N1K1 Rex x 4
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 9

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 4 destroyed
N1K1 Rex: 2 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 3 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

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BURMA
Althugh not shown here there were two Hurricane groups here. The LR CAP of Hurricane IIb took part and at least 7 were present in the battle. This is confirmed in the loss reports that show 2 as lost on the day. The Hurricanes did well, mostly of course n the initial dives as many of my planes were flying lower.
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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 11
J2M2 Jack x 9
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 15
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 47
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 5

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 7 destroyed

CAP engaged:
Ominato Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(11 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
9th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(18 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 15 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(15 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 15 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
1st Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (9 airborne, 4 on standby, 8 scrambling)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 28000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
54th Sentai Det A with Ki-61-Ib Tony (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes

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Reinforcements: Another fast TK. The Frank is now up to 2/44 and should be ready to build by November at current rates.

TK Kyokuyo Maru arrives at Hiroshima/Kure
DD Suzunami arrives at Kobe

Aircraft D4Y3 Judy advances R&D
Aircraft Ki-84a Frank advances R&D


Losses: None

Ships Sunk: Interesting. I'm pretty sure this CVE went under. The Columbia is no surprise, as it only took one TT.

Previous report of sinking of CVE Prince William incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
Previous report of sinking of CL Columbia incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/17/2012 4:28:49 PM   
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So, both of my games are on hold now. Jocke and I upgraded to the new patch and noticed changes right away in the way air-combat was being resolved. Most of it is detailed in the above posts, for which I've included most of the reports, annotated.

He has opened a thread in the tech forum. If you're also using patch 1119a from 14/10/12 and you have noticed more fragmentation of bombing/sweeps since the update, maybe post something just to get more feedback in the thread. We're trying to figure out why its happening for us but seemingly not for everyone. So far the only other PBEM that seems to have the same issue is Docup-Koniu. Some players playing the AI on the same patch, including Sardaukar, haven't noticed a change.



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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/17/2012 5:14:59 PM   
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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/17/2012 7:53:39 PM   
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Hello obvert

I just started reading your AAR about a week ago. Started at the beginning and now just starting page 35.
Just wanted to say what a pleasure your AAR is! Love the photos and the little historical tidbits. I have been a WWII history junkie since I was about 8 and the passion has never dimmed even 30 years later. What is amazing about the conflict is how no matter how much you think you know about it, there is always more to learn (same with WitP!).

As a fanatical Japanese player I have found your AAR informative as well as entertaining.

One question- where do you get those cool colorized photos of Japanese units like this one I stole off your post?








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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/17/2012 8:05:24 PM   
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Also,
I love that you are trying out so many air units. When I first started playing I wanted to try out as many as I could but find myself streamlining in later games because honestly, I am not a good enough player to mess around to much. I like that you use the Nick. I have actually had decent success with them in the past and in my current PBEM. I've even had them shoot down older p38s with good pilots! I am curious about how the Ki61s will do for you. I have been really disappointed with them in past games. It seems that they should be better than they are in the game. In my current game I decided to completely avoid them and just build Ki44 until Ki84. However, I have always wondered if they could be used in point def against 4es with any effectiveness (the cannon armed variant). In previous games I have even used the Ki44IIb which most people hate, but I have actually had some success with (not building them this time though.)

Hope your game goes the duration.

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/18/2012 9:27:01 AM   
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Hello obvert

I just started reading your AAR about a week ago. Started at the beginning and now just starting page 35.
Just wanted to say what a pleasure your AAR is! Love the photos and the little historical tidbits. I have been a WWII history junkie since I was about 8 and the passion has never dimmed even 30 years later. What is amazing about the conflict is how no matter how much you think you know about it, there is always more to learn (same with WitP!).

As a fanatical Japanese player I have found your AAR informative as well as entertaining.

One question- where do you get those cool colorized photos of Japanese units like this one I stole off your post?



Thanks for the kind words. It has been a fun thing to make for me as well. I also started early as a fan of WW2. I 'won' a writing contest in 2nd grade and my dad was really dismayed when my first choice book was some anthology of WW2 aircraft.

I try to do a bunch of different kinds of searching online, but I have jut by chance come across some sites that have a whole archive of images. I'll list links to some below. The Old Ships site is especially amazing, but alas none or few color images. The ones I've used like the above came I think from one site, and they were nicely annotated as well, but it's on the bookmarks for my old laptop I think. I'll try to find it again.

Old Ship Galleries
http://www.photoship.co.uk/Browse%20Ship%20Galleries/

Combined Fleet
http://www.combinedfleet.com/kaigun.htm

WW2 database
http://ww2db.com/

Voodoo World
http://www.voodoo-world.cz/ww2car/jap.html


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ORIGINAL: Dora09

Also,
I love that you are trying out so many air units. When I first started playing I wanted to try out as many as I could but find myself streamlining in later games because honestly, I am not a good enough player to mess around to much. I like that you use the Nick. I have actually had decent success with them in the past and in my current PBEM. I've even had them shoot down older p38s with good pilots! I am curious about how the Ki61s will do for you. I have been really disappointed with them in past games. It seems that they should be better than they are in the game. In my current game I decided to completely avoid them and just build Ki44 until Ki84. However, I have always wondered if they could be used in point def against 4es with any effectiveness (the cannon armed variant). In previous games I have even used the Ki44IIb which most people hate, but I have actually had some success with (not building them this time though.)

Hope your game goes the duration.



If I'm going to play this game for a while I figured I might as well try the different options. I agree the Nick is fun. It's definitely tough to fly them against new US fighters, but mostly because I have them low to hit the bombers. Once I swept with them and they actually did really well since they can take a lot of punishment and still get home.

I also had the Ki-44 IIb flying, and it's done just fine. The Ki-61 Ib isn't great, but it is different and I like that. I'm looking forward to the next model as I think that will do more for me.


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Thanks obvert!
Your story about your first book is very similar to mine.  My parents were both astonished when my first purchase with saved allowance money when I was 10 or so was a 25 volume set WWII encylopedia!  Still have it, I must have read through it from start to finish at least a dozen times.

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 10/18/2012 2:29:54 PM   
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We've decided for now to move on using the older official patch without all of the new goodies. I'm a bit disappointed we couldn't get some more response on this issue, and I think it will affect everyone who uses this patch at some point. I will keep testing and will post some results on the tech forum thread later tonight. I've been having fun doing these and learning a lot about the air systems in game. We are both positive that based on our tests this is happening in the new patch and was not in the official one.

We're going back to the day of the big Allied raid on Mandalay. In this version I expect a bigger initial raid and a very bloody outcome, mainly that I'll kill more fighters and fewer bombers. I might even get more 4Es because of the numbers of passes, but will surely get fewer 2Es as they will be more protected in the larger raid. We'll see if I'm right. I think he'll have a few unescorted planes come in and I hope because the CAP won't be as worn out by 10 or more packages of small groups all supported by LR CAP that I'll be able to score better later against these.

I'm not a betting man, but if I were I'd say this raid will achieve the results following:

Total Losses:

IJ - 105 planes

Allies - 110 planes

Individual plane losses:

IJ - 30 Nick, 30 zero, 25 Tojo, 10 Tony, 5 Oscar

Allies - 50 P-40, 30 2E, 15 4E, 10 P-38, 5 P-47

Base damage - 65 fields/55 service

So just a bit more damaging than the last time, but a bit less on the base. That's my guess. We'll see soon, hopefully.


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Well, I was wrong, but not completely. The turn was indeed bloody, but not quite in the way predicted. Back with the official patch the strike at Mandalay was devastating and coordinated.

BURMA: One massive strike hit our CAP at Mandalay. The fighters were able to break through for a few shots at the bombers, but with the help of LR CAP it was tough to get much in the successive small fragments after. There were only 3 fragments after the main raid. The base is however shut down now. Runway - 72 / Service - 99.

For my final scores I was not far off!!

Total Losses:

Allies - 112 planes

Japan - 100 planes

He lost many more Hellcats and a good smattering of all of his better fighters, but not as many 4Es as I predicted, and his 2E losses were way down. So he'll be happy.

WEST OZ: More 4Es at Carnarvon, but not too damaging to the troops.

SO PAC: Just a few sub contacts.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 17, 43
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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 17
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 5

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 18


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 2 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
8 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 31000 feet

CAP engaged:
1st Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 29000 and 34000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
54th Sentai Det A with Ki-61-Ib Tony (2 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 28000.
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 58
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 7
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 51
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 64
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 13

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 17
F4U-1 Corsair x 33
F6F-3 Hellcat x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 6 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 3 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
13 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 31000 feet

CAP engaged:
Ominato Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 13 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Raid is overhead
54th Sentai Det A with Ki-61-Ib Tony (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
251 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 23 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 17 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 19 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 12 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 35200.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
25th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 32 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 36740.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
27th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 13 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 35000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (2 airborne, 2 on standby, 6 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 28000 and 34000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 39
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 7
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 44
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 56
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 9

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 45
Blenheim VD x 15
Liberator II x 16
Wellington Ic x 48
B-17F Fortress x 11
B-24D Liberator x 12
B-24D1 Liberator x 62
B-25C Mitchell x 73
B-26 Marauder x 14
B-26B Marauder x 16
P-38E Lightning x 10
P-38F Lightning x 21
P-40K Warhawk x 72
P-40N5 Warhawk x 15
F6F-3 Hellcat x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 5 damaged
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 3 destroyed, 7 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 3 destroyed on ground

Ki-61-Ib Tony: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged
Blenheim VD: 1 destroyed
Liberator II: 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
P-38E Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 7 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed


Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 41
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 128

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 27
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 5
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 26
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 32
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 6


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 11
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 7
F6F-3 Hellcat x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed


Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 2

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 26
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 3
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 23
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 29
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 5

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9
P-38E Lightning x 14
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 7
F6F-3 Hellcat x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 22
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 15
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 15
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 2

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9
P-40N5 Warhawk x 5
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 16
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 11
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 10
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 1

Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 6
P-40N1 Warhawk x 22
P-40N5 Warhawk x 5
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x P-40N1 Warhawk sweeping at 15000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 37,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 3
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 2

Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 5
P-40N5 Warhawk x 5
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 52
F6F-3 Hellcat x 1


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 35000 feet
22 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 35000 feet
4 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 35000 feet

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Reinforcements: Maybe this version will be a bit better. It's due in the fall.

Aircraft J2M3 Jack advances R&D

Losses: Just an xAKL.

Loss of xAKL Hoko Maru on Jul 17, 1943 is admitted

Ships Sunk: None.

SS Plunger is reported to have been sunk near Taihoku on Feb 22, 1943
xAP Illisos is reported to have been sunk near Raoul Island on Aug 28, 1942

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Now I'm interested in even more testing. If the coordination issue didn't change the strike outcome radically, could there be benefits to it later when combat is more intense?
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