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Tokyo Express - 10/31/2011 7:23:56 PM   
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Does anyone know where I can find out detailed information about the Tokyo Express, or indeed the US efforts to supply and reinforce Guadalcanal between August 1942 and February 1943?

What I am seeking to find out and understand is:

- How often were the Japanese supply missions carried out? are we talking daily, weekly or what?
- What losses were incurred by the Japanese in attempting to hold Guadalcanal (in terms of destroyers and other vessels - i.e. over and above those warships lost in the main naval engagements).
- What (if any) losses did the USN suffer in keeping the 1st Marine Division supplied (and later in getting them out and replacing with other units - again am looking for any losses other than those lost in the main naval engagements).

Thanks as always for any help that can be given in this regard.

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RE: Tokyo Express - 10/31/2011 7:52:21 PM   
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Richard Frank's book on Guadalcanal gives a pretty comprehensive accounting of the Express runs. However if your looking for tablized summaries of the indiv Runs, i'm not sure you'll find something that convenient. His book does tally all naval losses up to around feb 43. Dull's Battle history of the IJN is another good source and accounts for all major IJN warship losses. It also gives a good overview of the Express runs but naturally focuses on those runs that were contested in some way.

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RE: Tokyo Express - 10/31/2011 8:16:30 PM   
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RE: Tokyo Express - 10/31/2011 9:14:43 PM   
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RE: Tokyo Express - 10/31/2011 10:23:21 PM   
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Okay thanks chaps - looks like a pretty big thumbs up for Frank - it's on order from Amazon as I write . I just hope its better than McGee's Solomons Campaigns....

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RE: Tokyo Express - 11/14/2011 10:14:29 PM   
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Frank's Guadalcanal came a few days ago and I give this book a big thumbs up

Anyone know any good books on the campaigns in

Dutch East Indies?
New Guinea?

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RE: Tokyo Express - 11/14/2011 10:36:34 PM   
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And, as the campaign progressed, barges played an increasingly greater role in the runs, and I doubt there are loss figures for them. As DD losses increased there was a greater reluctance to use them. You also have to consider the evacuation of the Canal by Japan which was sort of a Tokyo Express in reverse. It had to be a lot of traffic.

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RE: Tokyo Express - 11/14/2011 11:03:34 PM   
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Try Japanese Destroyer Captain by Tamiechi Hara. Wonderful info from the Japanese perspective.

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RE: Tokyo Express - 11/14/2011 11:34:37 PM   
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quote:

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Try Japanese Destroyer Captain by Tamiechi Hara. Wonderful info from the Japanese perspective.

My favorite book from this period. A lot of insight ...

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RE: Tokyo Express - 11/15/2011 6:10:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Okay thanks chaps - looks like a pretty big thumbs up for Frank - it's on order from Amazon as I write . I just hope its better than McGee's Solomons Campaigns....


Please say more about McGee's book. I've had the impression that his book on Logistics was simply an edited compilation of the sources he cites....

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RE: Tokyo Express - 11/15/2011 4:00:06 PM   
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Also more on Hara's book, I've not seen that...thanks.

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RE: Tokyo Express - 11/15/2011 4:05:02 PM   
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Tamiechi Hara was a Japanese DD captain (Duh) who didn't have the typical Japanese thoughts. I don't want to spoil it for you. Really great read. I recommend it.

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RE: Tokyo Express - 11/15/2011 4:18:14 PM   
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quote:

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Tamiechi Hara was a Japanese DD captain (Duh) who didn't have the typical Japanese thoughts. I don't want to spoil it for you. Really great read. I recommend it.

+1.

Not sure still in print. My copy is from, ok, a LONG time ago.

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RE: Tokyo Express - 11/15/2011 5:00:12 PM   
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Yeah, mine too. You can get it for $10 from Amazon.

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RE: Tokyo Express - 11/15/2011 5:07:12 PM   
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Ah, still in print. Good to know.

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RE: Tokyo Express - 11/15/2011 7:56:30 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Okay thanks chaps - looks like a pretty big thumbs up for Frank - it's on order from Amazon as I write . I just hope its better than McGee's Solomons Campaigns....


Please say more about McGee's book. I've had the impression that his book on Logistics was simply an edited compilation of the sources he cites....
Warspite1

I can't say too much because I have not read it all - I am currently bedtime reading McGee and Frank together (so I can double up on each key Guadalcanal episode) while continuing with Rising Sun on the train to and from work.

The gripes I have with McGee (and I guess its my fault for not researching ) is that the Solomons Campaign is just an abridged version of Morrison's work, and I can't get used to a historian writing in terms of "we", "Japs" and "Nips". That said, the book is far from uninteresting (hence I am still reading).

The problem with being edited is that some key info is left off e.g. the torpedoing of the Saratoga (even though her attack is in one of the paragraph headers).

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