From: Bedfordshire UK
These two men were the senior commanders of 8th Mech. Corps and it would be very interesting to see what these original sources had to say. If you trust the content of 'Bloody Triangle', it certainly gives an excellent description of conditions and actions of both sides, during this critical battle, on a critical sector. I found it a very illuminating read, with lots of detail on, what is in effect, the first two turns of WiTE on the Southwestern Front.
For instance, what does it mean for Soviet unit MPs, where he describes Mechanised units as not receiving their allocation of trucks and the men having to carry their heavy equipment and follow the AFVs on foot. This was worse than the infantry units, who at least had horse drawn wagons to carry their equipment. Tank columns having to stop every 15 mins, on the march, to make running repairs to keep the vehicles operational.
Just noticed you edited the post.
Good question regarding the MP's. My point - and I think I've reasonably modeled it well on this scenario - is that they weren't critical to get key units into position to contest the German advance. Hence I redeployed Mech Corps to the positions I think they were just 24 - 36 hours after Barbarossa and set their MP's to max. Note that Vehicle allowances have been tweaked as well - generally for the worse, much worse - and while they get into combat, they're bound to suffer the same kind of horrific losses they suffered historically.
I mean, the point is not that the AGS is stopped cold but rather than it faces a substantial opposition during the first Axis turn. Putting these corps into reserve mode and maxing out MP's seemed to me to be the simplest way to have them to react to the phasing Axis player in a meaningful way. Just having the Axis player to get honest and forgo Hasty attacks - which might lure one or more Motorized units to the fray - and "invite" him to prefer Deliberate would slow down considerably Axis progress during Turn 1.
I would be good to have some Russian language confirmation of the sources, before using it as the basis for a major scenario change
Sorry just added another edit - I would be good to have some Russian language confirmation of the sources, before using it as the basis for a major scenario change - must stop doing that.
I think one of the points that comes though clearly was the total chaos that reigned in the first few days, Kirponos was in the process of moving his HQ forward on the morning of the attack and was out of touch. The message centre left at the original HQ site was overwhelmed by the amount of signal traffic that came in. Some units responded to their pre-war deployment plans, others received multiple changes of orders, 8the Mech. had to march and counter march over the same road, perhaps some selective fixing of units might replicate some of this.
I am being dragged out to the shops and must answer a higher authority, thinking about your points.
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