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OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/12/2011 12:20:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am just curious cause I work in a job that causes me to meet many persons from around the world. I don't want to offend someone inadvertently.

Do persons from New Zealand consider the term "KIWI", if applied to themselves by someone else, a derogatory term or demeaning term?



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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/12/2011 1:16:57 AM   
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Keeps out the cold!

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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/12/2011 6:58:57 AM   
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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/12/2011 7:24:26 AM   
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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/12/2011 8:02:44 AM   
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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/12/2011 8:12:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		One thing I forgot to mention is rugby. If you can talk rugby intelligently with a Kiwi, he will instantly take a liking to you. It's really that easy.

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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/12/2011 9:45:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am a New Zealander, born and breed, and I consider it an honour to be called a Kiwi. The Kiwi is our national emblem, and also the tactical insignia for our Army.

Edit; Reason I use the Emu as an avatar is that I have Aussie connections too, and I consider a Kiwi to be too smart to be my avatar.

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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/12/2011 12:00:50 PM   
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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/12/2011 12:45:31 PM   
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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/12/2011 1:13:00 PM   
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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/12/2011 6:00:06 PM   
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Kiwi's can't play rugby.


Heretic.





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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/12/2011 6:43:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DivePac88

I am a New Zealander, born and breed, and I consider it an honour to be called a Kiwi. The Kiwi is our national emblem, and also the tactical insignia for our Army.

Edit; Reason I use the Emu as an avatar is that I have Aussie connections too, and I consider a Kiwi to be too smart to be my avatar.


Isn't your Gvt building nicknamed the "Beehive" or something similar?

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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/12/2011 7:38:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DivePac88

I am a New Zealander, born and breed, and I consider it an honour to be called a Kiwi. The Kiwi is our national emblem, and also the tactical insignia for our Army.

Edit; Reason I use the Emu as an avatar is that I have Aussie connections too, and I consider a Kiwi to be too smart to be my avatar.


Isn't your Gvt building nicknamed the "Beehive" or something similar?


A former Prime Minister of New Zealand used to have a great line about 3 decades ago. He was all in favour of continued migration of New Zealanders to Australia. he used to say that such migration raised the average IQ level of both countries.

Alfred, from the western side of the ditch

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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/12/2011 8:08:00 PM   
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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/12/2011 9:19:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Have sailed on many boats from down there. Lots with mixed crews. Whenever I asked someone, who was a New Zealander, where he was from he would say 'I'm a Kiwi'. The most fun I have ever had on a boat race is when a Kiwi or a 'Stryne was on board.

But wotch out fa snykes !!

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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/12/2011 9:49:49 PM   
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Status: online 		I've had a number of professors whilest in college and current co-workers that were Kiwis or Aussies. Good blokes, by and large. Personally, I most enjoy when the two of them are around one another for the outstanding repartee. Good stuff!

In my systemic pathology class some years back, our two course co-ordinators were an Australian and a Kiwi. They lost no time in taking shots at one another:

From our Aussie prof.:

Q: How can you tell the difference between an Aussie and a Kiwi by the accent?
A: It's easy. Ask them to pronounce the number that comes after five. The Aussie will pronounce it like "sex". The Kiwi can't count that high.

From our Kiwi prof.:

Q: What's the difference between Yogurt and Australia?
A. With yogurt, you've got a living culture.

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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/12/2011 9:59:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		So now we get ot the yanqui joke book, I think they call it a constitution.

No bad Enzed jokes until Sunday night, I might be changing nationalities.

Only problem with New Zealand is the bad ones got transported to Bondi Beach.

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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/12/2011 10:28:40 PM   
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So now we get ot the yanqui joke book, I think they call it a constitution.

Ouch. That really hurt, Jeff.

Thing is, all of us really like you guys. And the jokes we tell are just repetitions from Aussies about EnZeds, or EnZeds about Aussies. We don't mean anything by it. For my part, if anything I have said could be construed as offensive, I sincerely apologize. Don't know what it could be, but you guys got your own rules, so I should comply.

Same with us.

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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/12/2011 10:47:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's really quite simple. New Zealand is the second best country on earth. Fact . If I wasn't English I would be proud to be a Kiwi. The Kiwi's performance in WWII was quite simply the dogs dangly bits ; 2nd New Zealand Division .

Now Kiwi's do us a favour; beat the Aussies in the Semis and, whatever happens, make sure you beat the French or the Welsh in the RWC final.....PLEASE! DO NOT **** IT UP AGAIN!!

Thank-you in advance .

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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/13/2011 12:49:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Went to a place called Gemstone Beach on the southern tip of the South Island. One of the many amazing places in an amazing place. We met this scruffy young kid on the beach who lectured us on which rare stones to look for. Of course, we had no clue what to look for. So he just reached into his pocket and gave us a handful. Pretty representative of our whole trip there. Kiwis rock!


Go All blacks!

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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/13/2011 12:52:14 AM   
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Now Kiwi's do us a favour; beat the Aussies in the Semis and, whatever happens, make sure you beat the French or the Welsh in the RWC final.....PLEASE! DO NOT **** IT UP AGAIN!!

Thank-you in advance .


Amen to that - but oooo do I have PMT (unlike the repetitive female 'desease' - this is a reptitive state of being before the big match - pre-match tension)

I could not bear a Gregan-alike lauding it over one of the team saying "four more years" with unrepetent glee...

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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/13/2011 1:14:53 AM   
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Now Kiwi's do us a favour; beat the Aussies in the Semis and, whatever happens, make sure you beat the French or the Welsh in the RWC final.....PLEASE! DO NOT **** IT UP AGAIN!!

Thank-you in advance .


Amen to that - but oooo do I have PMT (unlike the repetitive female 'desease' - this is a reptitive state of being before the big match - pre-match tension)

I could not bear a Gregan-alike lauding it over one of the team saying "four more years" with unrepetent glee...


At least most of the All Blacks play fair, not like little jonny who needed a fresh football to kick at goal, seriously should have been penalised!

WOTIF, a counter to the Haka, we could get an aboriginal to 'point the bone" at opposing teams.

Should be a good game on Sunday, I hope.

I do support NZ as the second best place on earth, I could see myself sitting on the banks of Lake Te Anau for the rest of my life!

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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/13/2011 5:18:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		As a Kiwi I can't say I see how it could be considered an offensive term. Its more informal than anything but I think you'll generally find most Kiwi's are fairly relaxed about things like that.
As for "The beehive" i'm not sure if it qualifies as a nickname anymore, I don't think i've ever heard it called anything else.




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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/13/2011 7:13:47 AM   
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've been reading these rather good mysteries by Oz author Peter Temple, in which Tasmania is "pointy land" & Tasmanians are "pointyheads".

is this derogatory? what's the derivation?

(btw Temple gives Boag's beer a thumbs-up.)

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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/13/2011 7:46:22 AM   
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Never heard of a pointy, maybe because most Tasmanians have 2 heads, or the scar where the second one was.


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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/13/2011 3:05:12 PM   
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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/13/2011 11:31:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well thanks all. Didn't think it was considered offensive or in bad taste but I did let the term slip and got a funny look from the New Zealand woman to whom I was referring.

Maybe she just didn't like my face.

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RE: OT: a question for New Zealand persons - 10/13/2011 11:33:20 PM   
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