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Looking back at your game vs Katza I do not think Katza was using reserve mode nearly as good as he could have been using it.
I'm not how much he used it, but the thing is (as far as I know) that once the Sovs have enough ooomph behind the attack (as I did in some of mine), the computer would not even commit reserves, because I guess it figured that it wouldn't matter. I think reserves might have stopped one or two full-blown assaults; usually, if reserves were committed in such attacks, they didn't help.
I found his use of reserves to be a real economy of force killer; he would put a lone regiment in a hex, I would attack with a couple corps and get spanked because reserves were committed...so I had to use big stacks even against sole regiments if I wanted to be sure to win. Great way to slow the Sovs down.
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A defending reserve unit will not commit to a battle if the odds are less then 1 to 2.
So it appears that if there are enough reserves near by to lower odds below 1 to 2.
1. a leadership check is done. Leader ship Int of 7, you need a roll of 1-7 out of 10 70%. Thats at Corp lvl, if that fails then army, then AG then OKH.
2. an MP check is done, which in most cases would never fail unless the unit has commited several other times.
I think your right and wrong about only slowing down russian army. During 1943 it should not be that hard to hold the line.
As defending CV will be high and German player can put 9 and 8 int leaders at the point of attack, plus shorten army fronts, increase the number of panzer units at the point of attack.
This will at some point fall apart as Big A pointed out.
I beleive in your game Katza had stated that putting small units in front was not working as he thought. It was a mistake I beleive. If the defending CV is 30ish then the required amount of reserves to commit is not that many to get 1 to 2 odds.
2 stacks of rifle corps is about 100 attacking CV, which would probably be a best case. Some cv will be lost to defending art, but not much.
Defending in most cases during 1943 is 30 to 50 CV.
The fort lvl could get taken down and troops in hex disrupted, possibly dropping hex CV to 15 ish in best case.
The defender has 4 divisions all mech/panzer with CV's averaging 20 each. Which is not out of the question.
Some elite units have around 30 by early 43.
Even with a huge attack with 6 rifle corp and artillary it is not out of the question that the defender could get 40 CV to commit to battle and put the odds at 1 to 2, before the final battle roll.
So I can see where the German player if he puts an army in front of the standard blob russian forse tring to break the fort line( 6-8 reserve units defending a short front of 6 hexs) he can and will stop a blob push more then likely. Now this will work for a while unit German forses are worn down.
I beleive that in the case of this game vs M60 he can't ware me down because of the amount of manpower pt's I have over ran. Until late 1944 putting the game in the range of a major German victory and minor victory for sure.
Done right this should forse the russian army into attacking allong the front and not at a point in the line at least during the summer of 1943.
Pelton
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