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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 2/16/2012 1:25:49 PM   
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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 2/17/2012 4:31:52 PM   
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standard map download and paste into scen file Ai files also attached same thing just download and paste into scen file

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hi

i am thinking of giving this a go when v6 comes out but have a couple of questions:

1) i assume this is played on the standard map, also the download is just .dat files does it use standard ai? (Basically what needs doing to install this?)

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Hi again

i think i am missing something here but where are the ai files? The attachment in the first post just has 9 .dat files and 1 .cmt file (all of which i assume i just paste into the scenarioa folder)

many thanks

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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 2/20/2012 2:43:23 PM   
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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 2/24/2012 11:22:42 AM   
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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 2/28/2012 12:04:33 PM   
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I assume this is working ok


Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I went on vacation for a week. The new version seems like a fine and still very strong start. The Pearl strike is still a bit larger than the older version (about 160 some odd Kates and Vals versus 140 some odd of each) and hits lots and lots of very valuable destroyers, putting the US even further in the escort hole than the older version. The additional port strikes on Davao, Hong Kong and Rangoon also add nicely to the Japanese tally on day one.

My game is up to December 25 and progressing nicely. I did have a strange occurrence with my evac from Manila tho. The AI sent a mini KB into the sea south of the Philippines (can't remember the name) almost up to Tarakan just as the bulk of the evacuees were headed there. I diverted the evacuees north and west of Borneo expecting them to get slaughtered by both surface forces and air. Almost every ship made it to Batavia. The air ignored them and continued bombing the invasion targets while the ships sialed by unaccosted.

Have you considered some additional scripts to have the AI make some of the typically agressive early moves a player makes? I recall a game a long time ago when the AI sent a full division to Koumac long befoe I even got a garrison into Noumea, but haven't encountered that script in many many games. A move in the first few days on Sinkwang with a quick follow up to place air base and air units in it to dominate the sea lanes between Singapore-Palembang-Batavia would be very challenging. Anyway, just some quick thoughts...have to get to work now.

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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 2/29/2012 12:26:49 PM   
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if I were to design a PBEM mod off this base scenario, are there any potholes that I might miss beyond the editor that would swing the empire performace even higher than the obvious changes?

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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 3/1/2012 5:19:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Playing v5. Singapore managed to hold until Feb 23 with only Aus 8th Div Bns as reinforcements.

Still waiting to see which way the AI is going to go.

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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 3/3/2012 9:04:14 PM   
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pbem would need a lot of changes to this stat

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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 3/7/2012 1:34:36 AM   
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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 3/8/2012 12:56:35 PM   
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Andy: Understood on your motivations. I hear DaBades handles the AA on ships pretty realistically, so that might be a great thing to port over. Also, I like their idea of even more restricted stacking and the extended map, but understand that might be a lot of trouble to port to Ironman.

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The base force splitting is one thing that does seem to be very reasonable, but playing AE already burns so much time that I simply cannot afford any more micromanagement than already present unless for very compelling reasons. But the "AA tweaks" and also the changes to the "Super E" escorts are very good ideas.

Also the reduced troop and cargo load of ships does makes sense to reduce op-tempo. It might be worth considering to port that, since it will give Allied players more trouble to overwhelm the IJ AI in 43-45 offensive period. Sounds like it could make any game against AI more challenging? Not sure whether that would mess up the transport considerations of AI in the initial expansion phase, though?

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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 3/8/2012 7:46:36 PM   
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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 3/8/2012 9:46:52 PM   
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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 3/9/2012 5:15:47 PM   
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On April 14 the Japanese CV's were raiding SW Australia and sailed into Melbourne. Kaga and Shoho both reported hit by mines.

I think the raids are self defeating for the AI. I have to restrain myself from setting up an ambush to destroy the Japanese CV's piecemeal during the raids.

Although maybe this is an artifact of the AI

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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 3/9/2012 5:30:34 PM   
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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 3/9/2012 9:18:40 PM   
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Andy,

On April 14 the Japanese CV's were raiding SW Australia and sailed into Melbourne. Kaga and Shoho both reported hit by mines.

I think the raids are self defeating for the AI. I have to restrain myself from setting up an ambush to destroy the Japanese CV's piecemeal during the raids.

Although maybe this is an artifact of the AI



This happended to me many games ago when the AI brought a huge KB to Perth and then chased my fleeing ships eastward. It ran in to the sheltered bay at Melbourne and was hammered by coastal guns and mines. I did supply Andy with a save of that one when it happened.

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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 3/12/2012 5:46:41 PM   
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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 3/21/2012 2:04:53 AM   
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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 3/21/2012 4:30:25 AM   
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I was told that there is a new set of AI files for Ironman, I have looked for them but cant find any. Can you post them here or point me in the right direction to were they are? I currently have aei010-XX dated 12/5/2009
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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 3/26/2012 11:57:29 AM   
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The first post..there is a attachement with ironman v06

Hope it helps...

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Andy,
I was told that there is a new set of AI files for Ironman, I have looked for them but cant find any. Can you post them here or point me in the right direction to were they are? I currently have aei010-XX dated 12/5/2009
Thanks Daryl



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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 3/26/2012 12:36:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Omat, thanks for the reply. The download in the first post has the scenario data files, I had heard there may be new AI files, aei010-01.dat to aei010-18.dat those are the ones I was inquiring about.

For clarification- I'm working on a DaBigBabes version of Ironman, allied ver AI, and PaxMondo asked if I was using the new and especially sadistic AI files or the original AI files? The aei010-01.dat to aei010-18.dat files I have are from 12/5/2009 and was wondering if newer ones are available.

Thanks Daryl


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Hello

The first post..there is a attachement with ironman v06


Hope it helps...

Omat

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Andy,
I was told that there is a new set of AI files for Ironman, I have looked for them but cant find any. Can you post them here or point me in the right direction to were they are? I currently have aei010-XX dated 12/5/2009
Thanks Daryl





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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 3/26/2012 3:14:05 PM   
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How do I send you a savegame file?


copy your saved game to your desktop and then rename it changing the extension to .zip. The the site will treat it like a ZIP file and allow you to attach it to your post like an image file.

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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 3/29/2012 10:34:06 AM   
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Omat, thanks for the reply. The download in the first post has the scenario data files, I had heard there may be new AI files, aei010-01.dat to aei010-18.dat those are the ones I was inquiring about.

For clarification- I'm working on a DaBigBabes version of Ironman, allied ver AI, and PaxMondo asked if I was using the new and especially sadistic AI files or the original AI files? The aei010-01.dat to aei010-18.dat files I have are from 12/5/2009 and was wondering if newer ones are available.



a few threads up i asked about ai downloads - however apparantly its just the ones in the game as is - i assume that its the new ironman 'scenario' files that PaxMondo refered to that all get used by the generic ironman ai in the original game (really not 100% on this so hopefully someone will dive in and clarify things if thsi is wrong)

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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 3/30/2012 11:52:39 AM   
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I had more in development but lost them when my PC melted and have nt had the heart to start again yet

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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 3/30/2012 11:53:03 AM   
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RE: Ironman Japan v5 - 4/22/2012 10:42:52 PM   
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RE: Ironman Japan v10 - 7/30/2012 11:53:45 PM   
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RE: Ironman Japan v10 - 8/10/2012 12:34:10 AM   
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Status: online 		Andy: That's great! Can you tell us some of the enhancements you made in the latest version?

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RE: Ironman Japan v10 - 8/15/2012 12:43:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		I loaded this file and started a game when it got modified.

It runs great-

EXCEPT the German raiders are losing to Allied Merchants. I have had both a German BC and German AMC get beat up by tankers and merchants with zero damage to the tankers and merchants. Only applicable to Germans for some reason, Allies and Japanese run fine.

Maybe it's this, I have also loaded the other thread's file for DaBabes that changes base data for regular AE scenarios except Ironman.

Is the ship data all from a common base regardless of scenario?

In which case I guess I might have inadvertently overwritten the German data so they can't shoot anymore?

Example I had had a Dutch SS engage a merchant with a deck gun and thought that was limited to the correction to DP guns done by the DaBabes data. I would think since this version of Ironman isn't using the DaBabes data the Ducth subs should NOT be using their deck guns on ships?

Just to be clear here. I am NOT running DaBabes. I did upload the data changes that the DaBabes sight had for the standard AE scenarios EXCEPT Ironman. After this I uploaded the Ironman file from this thread. The Germans appear no problem, they just don't shoot at all.

Sadly, I am not in a postion to where I can upload a save file.

Thanks in advance!

P.S. This has happend about four (4) times and without exception the Germans don't shoot. They close to 7,000 yards or less and the tankers shoot their guns but nary a shot from the Germans. My Allies merchant do run from them as a surface threat, just no shooting.

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RE: Ironman Japan v10 - 8/15/2012 12:50:26 AM   
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I loaded this file and started a game when it got modified.

It runs great-

EXCEPT the German raiders are losing to Allied Merchants. I have had both a German BC and German AMC get beat up by tankers and merchants with zero damage to the tankers and merchants. Only applicable to Germans for some reason, Allies and Japanese run fine.

Maybe it's this, I have also loaded the other thread's file for DaBabes that changes base data for regular AE scenarios except Ironman.

Is the ship data all from a common base regardless of scenario?

In which case I guess I might have inadvertently overwritten the German data so they can't shoot anymore?

Example I had had a Dutch SS engage a merchant with a deck gun and thought that was limited to the correction to DP guns done by the DaBabes data. I would think since this version of Ironman isn't using the DaBabes data the Ducth subs should NOT be using their deck guns on ships?

Just to be clear here. I am NOT running DaBabes. I did upload the data changes that the DaBabes sight had for the standard AE scenarios EXCEPT Ironman. After this I uploaded the Ironman file from this thread. The Germans appear no problem, they just don't shoot at all.

Sadly, I am not in a postion to where I can upload a save file.

Thanks in advance!


When I bring up any German unit in the scenario, even in the editor, I get a blank screen for device data. i.e no weapons and no radar are listed.
Is it possible that these units really have no weapons and thus can't fire?

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RE: Ironman Japan v10 - 8/17/2012 6:16:22 AM   
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