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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/19/2013 5:58:29 PM   
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I go for between 40% - 45% fighters if the KB will be fighting on its' own. If I will have LBA assisting, then I increase the fighter proportion. So it kinda depends. And after about 6/43 I won't risk the KB against allied CV's without LBA until I get SAM because the A6M cannot defend the KB. I have to have Tojo/Frank/George overhead of the KB until Sam. OF course, by the time I get Sam, the allies usually outnumber the IJ KB so badly I still can't pit the KB against without LBA.

So to really answer your question, I put 50% - 75% fighters on the KB depending upon how much and what type of LBA I have assisting. The reason is that most of the IJ fighters are short legged and cannot escort and they are flying from behind the KB. So, I have to put the KB fighters on escort and hope the LBA and KB fighters will marry up ... of course I lose a lot of LBA bombers, but that is what they are for.

Thanks.
I see currently 3 places where i will use KB. In all those places i should be able to add extra LBA. Probably smallest chances to LBA support is in DEI where allied 4Es will dominate. Second place is north coast of Papua. Last place are Marianas where allies will have to go without LBA but also chance to invasion is smallest there.

Right now KB have
440 F
395 DB
265 TB



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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/20/2013 11:26:31 AM   
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Another quiet days.
No mayor enemy moves so farr.

On thing need to to be mention. In Salomon's i was evacuating Air HQ fro Shorthands. TF was intercepted by enemy destroyers and sunk with all troops. Lucky i first evacuated all light squads by air and only vehicles go down and small unit of enginiers i evacuating also


Night Time Surface Combat, near Shortlands at 109,131, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
E W-9, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
E W-23, Shell hits 17, and is sunk
xAK Asuka Maru, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Meiyo Maru, Shell hits 15, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Syohei Maru, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Kamoi Maru, Shell hits 22, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Jarvis
DD Maury, Shell hits 2

Japanese ground losses:
1719 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 89 destroyed, 65 disabled
Engineers: 69 destroyed, 111 disabled
Guns lost 8 (6 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 81 (55 destroyed, 26 disabled)


Pilots
Some data how training and reserves look right now





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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/21/2013 6:02:40 AM   
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Next turn spoiler

First time from 8 months KB leave anchor and will sail toward south Gilbert Islands.
From few days my intel is reporting heavy radio contacts south of this area.
Just few hexes behind search range from Tabiteuea.
Radio contacts are stable and very noise. They not moving but hold position. For me it looks like concentration before invasion. I am sending two subs to check that and KB slowly will move toward area. I enemy will be detected i can be there in 4-5 days.

I have with KB only 20k extra fuel. Truk have 100k but i have no more AO in area.





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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/21/2013 7:01:02 AM   
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Sounds like some fun here! In my experience those big blips on the signing are always something, so you should have some targets at the least.

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/21/2013 7:17:11 AM   
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KB will engage only if i confirm it is main invasion body and not fake one.

I see also huge concentration of forces in Salomons in Lae (APA, AKA, BB, CA) and horde of SS between me and those ships(so far 20 counted) but i think they are evacuating troops from there. My BB undetected from air refuel today in Rabul and if tomorrow enemy will be in interception range i will try to engage that fleet.

I not sure but i think also few days ago saw CVE TF south of Port Moresby. Last turn i saw 3 TF sailing north toward PM. So maybe invasion in that area.

My biggest weapon is to have KB hidden. When i show up i need to be sure i am going against big boys and not against fake invasion build from cargo ships. If i made that mistake i open window to Docup to land in DEI or north Papua and nobody want that.

PS. Prepering KB to moving to sea take me 90 minutes last turn. Most time was taken to move all those pilots to units. It is sad that i cant just chose manually that i need pilots with proper skill in units. Game engine dont recognize between TB and DB skill or instead pilots with high XP and skill game transfer pilot with high skill but XP 30. So to avoid delay time for pilots i was doing that manual jumping between units and transferring few pilots at time until all where in place. And i have 700 pilots to transfer

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/21/2013 7:46:06 AM   
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KB will engage only if i confirm it is main invasion body and not fake one.

I see also huge concentration of forces in Salomons in Lae (APA, AKA, BB, CA) and horde of SS between me and those ships(so far 20 counted) but i think they are evacuating troops from there. My BB undetected from air refuel today in Rabul and if tomorrow enemy will be in interception range i will try to engage that fleet.

I not sure but i think also few days ago saw CVE TF south of Port Moresby. Last turn i saw 3 TF sailing north toward PM. So maybe invasion in that area.

My biggest weapon is to have KB hidden. When i show up i need to be sure i am going against big boys and not against fake invasion build from cargo ships. If i made that mistake i open window to Docup to land in DEI or north Papua and nobody want that.

PS. Prepering KB to moving to sea take me 90 minutes last turn. Most time was taken to move all those pilots to units. It is sad that i cant just chose manually that i need pilots with proper skill in units. Game engine dont recognize between TB and DB skill or instead pilots with high XP and skill game transfer pilot with high skill but XP 30. So to avoid delay time for pilots i was doing that manual jumping between units and transferring few pilots at time until all where in place. And i have 700 pilots to transfer


Lots going on!

Yeah, the pilot management takes most of my game time. It's silly. Then they all get blown away in an escort mission and you do it again.

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/21/2013 1:37:10 PM   
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You are really fast to do it in 90 minutes! My age is really showing because it takes me 2 - 3 x that long.

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/21/2013 3:33:50 PM   
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Subs i send to check that radio signals found two TFs south of Phoenix islands.
Hard to tell what king of ships they are i will watch them closely. KB will continue.


I send on night ride CL Agano and two DD to sweep enemy ships in Goodenugh Island hex(Salomons).
It was 9 hex journey there and 9 back. But something goes wrong and Agano on morning end in Goodenugh hex. During air phase was hit by couple 500lb bomb from bombers and will not survive night
I will order destroyers to retreat at full to Rabaul. CL Agano sys92/ float85/ engine49/ fires98

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/21/2013 4:19:58 PM   
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You are really fast to do it in 90 minutes! My age is really showing because it takes me 2 - 3 x that long.


So, You telling stamina comes with age

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/21/2013 5:02:41 PM   
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I wonder if it's possible to change it so you could simply select more than one pilot at a time, then move to the appropriate area. if you could select TB skill, then the top 25 pilots, then move, it would be quick and easy.

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/22/2013 3:59:00 AM   
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You are really fast to do it in 90 minutes! My age is really showing because it takes me 2 - 3 x that long.


So, You telling stamina comes with age

Well yes ... uh you mean in the game?

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/22/2013 5:46:03 AM   
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I wonder if it's possible to change it so you could simply select more than one pilot at a time, then move to the appropriate area. if you could select TB skill, then the top 25 pilots, then move, it would be quick and easy.


I t would be nice.
I am seeing that little differently. It would be nice to add some kind of filter.

So let say i can set that i want to have on list only pilots with XP above 50 or above 50 but below 60, naval skill above 65 and torpedo skill below 50. After that You are sure that only pilots left are DB pilots with decent XP and all torpedo pilots will not be transfered to DB unit. It is doable but will require some coding and in place where game is now and all devs are focusing on other jobs it is almost impassible. But having that will change my 90 minutes work (270 for Pax) to few minutes.

One of weakest sides of game is UI. We all know that, but we have to live with that.
But wee all need to remember about silent heroes of that game - Left Mouse Button.



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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/23/2013 7:23:11 AM   
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10 Oct 43 (or 11 not sure)

Burma
Allies attack in Lashio, Bhamo and in mountains near China border. In all those places we hold. I think closes to defeat i am in Bhamo where i am reduced to 30 active AV.

Salomon's
During night air strike CL Agano finally sunk. He was not hit but damage was to big to survive .

KB
Heavy radio tragic look to be concentration of cargo ships. KB will hold position in middle of nowhere for day or two and if nothing will show up will return back to safe anchor

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/23/2013 8:13:39 AM   
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A very astute and measured response. With your earlier successes he has to use deception if he wants to move forward. You're being really disciplined which is something I can't always say about my own responsiveness to these kinds of things. The less you react the more he'l have to take chances and wonder where the hammer will come.

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/23/2013 11:07:07 AM   
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Radio traffic i seen last days was probably concentration of cargo TF sailing between South Pacific and West Coast. My subs currently observing 5 of those TFs. No single info about combat ships. I don`t think it was intentional by Docup do lure me there, most probably it is usual traffic in that area but in that case there was more chat in air than usual.

EDIT.

KB will slowly retreat.

I see something unusual between Oz and Papua. 3 ships TF (CVB, CVB, CVB) Figters 0, bombers 18, axillary 0. Destination north.

3 days ago i seen in that area similar TF but it was showing CVE, CVE, CVE



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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/24/2013 5:41:38 AM   
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Burma
Bhamo fall today. Unlucky my boys instead retreat south using road they decide to move to jungle.
I retreating to Lasio Inf Regiment that was blocking chines forces in mountains. No reason to do that anymore and risking being cut of from Lashio.
Docup is trying to cut Lashio from south. I need to try stop that.

Salomons
I see another CVE, CVE, CVE TF south of port moresby. I ordered more serch planes to fly that area.

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/28/2013 8:50:18 AM   
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Another quiet days. Some sweeps in Burma and Salomon's found leaky CAP shotting down some allies FB. Nothing big.
KB return to anchor. All pilots send to reserve and are replaced by rookies.


Tabiteua and Eniwetok garrisons will withdrawal in 30 days. Tabiteuae will be abandon and only some AV support will stay there to support G3M3 flying search missions. Eniwetok garrison will be replaced by Inf Regiment i just airlifted from Port Moresby. Regiment need to replace guns but in few days will sail to Tarawa.

Eniwetok is rudle for me. Base from ~2 weeks is reckoned every day. It will be nice if Docup decide to land there KB should be in range to react pretty fast. Eniwetok is fort 6 with 160AV.


A6M5 vs A6M5c
I have two squadrons flying A6M5c. Plane is still not avaible to produce but i get them with accelerated CV groups. I not sure if i want 5c in service, it is slow. On other side extra firepower could be nice if i use 5c in CAP above KB.
Armor i think will have no impact in CAP or during escort because allied firepower is just to big. Any advice. Should i downgrade to M5 or not?

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I upgraded first DB KB squadrons to D4Y3. 130 planes will be in service in 3-6 days.
In next 6 weeks i should be able to upgrade all units.
From January D4Y4 should be avaible.











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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/28/2013 10:22:50 AM   
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A6M5 vs A6M5c
I have two squadrons flying A6M5c. Plane is still not avaible to produce but i get them with accelerated CV groups. I not sure if i want 5c in service, it is slow. On other side extra firepower could be nice if i use 5c in CAP above KB.
Armor i think will have no impact in CAP or during escort because allied firepower is just to big. Any advice. Should i downgrade to M5 or not?


The A6M5c does seem to do better due to the armor. I hesitated from filling up the groups with them, but in a complementary role with either the A6M5 or A6M5b it seemed to add some staying power and of course good firepower as well.

Also, your pilots will of course live more often in a CAP role, which could be very important for those 80+ guys.

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/31/2013 8:22:16 AM   
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I will use those M5c for CAP. Maybe that extra firepower will help against durable allied planes.

15 Oct 43

Not much to report. As always Japanese Intel is waste of time. No info on enemy fleet. Last time i saw his carriers in spring when he lost 3 during Battle of Tabiteuea
Where he will strike. Probably Salomon's but who know. Moonlight is lower every night and Docup like to land when night is dark and he can use advantage of naval radar.



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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/31/2013 9:39:42 AM   
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I will use those M5c for CAP. Maybe that extra firepower will help against durable allied planes.

15 Oct 43

Not much to report. As always Japanese Intel is waste of time. No info on enemy fleet. Last time i saw his carriers in spring when he lost 3 during Battle of Tabiteuea
Where he will strike. Probably Salomon's but who know. Moonlight is lower every night and Docup like to land when night is dark and he can use advantage of naval radar.



By now he can land multiple divisions in a night phase, and your strike-back time is very limited. You have to be every vigilant, but also think what is the easiest route he can take? Anything hard takes more ships, planes and prep. So f it's easier, he'll go for it at this point.

What are the CV counts now, based on losses and new builds?

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/31/2013 9:49:36 AM   
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What are the CV counts now, based on losses and new builds?


I made this some time ago but it is still 100% accurate.
I only waiting for last CVE in 20 days to build and then i am done.
I not building Shinano and small late war CVEs.
I also convert one CS to CVL





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Cool chart Koniu! Really shows how big impact the Allied CVEs have!

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What are the CV counts now, based on losses and new builds?


I made this some time ago but it is still 100% accurate.
I only waiting for last CVE in 20 days to build and then i am done.
I not building Shinano and small late war CVEs.
I also convert one CS to CVL



Cool. I'd say you have a god chance to come out ahead even into the early months of 44. The CVEs are fragile and if you get a fight that goes in the morning phase you could knock a bunch out before the afternoon. Also they are more susceptible to subs, so using a massive sub screen in front will really help in the stages before a battle. I mean massive. How many subs do you have? Yeah, use all of those.

If you can win another CV engagement you are sitting pretty.

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/31/2013 10:19:15 AM   
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I can concentrate with KB ~25 subs.
Another 10 if i retreat FP equipped subs from deep ocean where they are on search mission
In next few months few more will join navy.

I am building 15 subs currently but i am not 100% sure they are wort of all that HI spend.
I have mixed fillings about it.


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I can concentrate with KB ~25 subs.
Another 10 if i retreat FP equipped subs from deep ocean where they are on search mission
In next few months few more will join navy.

I am building 15 subs currently but i am not 100% sure they are wort of all that HI spend.
I have mixed fillings about it.



As I see it, any chance to hit CVs is worth it. You will most likely have more HI than you need in the end anyway.

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 10/31/2013 12:28:24 PM   
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I can concentrate with KB ~25 subs.
Another 10 if i retreat FP equipped subs from deep ocean where they are on search mission
In next few months few more will join navy.

I am building 15 subs currently but i am not 100% sure they are wort of all that HI spend.
I have mixed fillings about it.



As I see it, any chance to hit CVs is worth it. You will most likely have more HI than you need in the end anyway.


You are right. Probably.
I currently have 2,2M HI. Even when i am building all those subs i will have ~3,5M in
June next year. More if i manage to hold HI-DEI rout open longer. Canceling those subs will save me ~300k HI.

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 11/2/2013 9:03:42 AM   
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We are now in 19 Oct 43
Last turn we upgraded to latest "s" patch.

Day earlier i set another CAP trap in Salomon's. 50 enemy bombers shot down.
Transport interception work perfectly. Last turn 16 C-47 shot down above Lasio.
I send 27 Tojos to intercept them. I use 50XP pilots, half of them after last turn is 60 XP

I see two TFs between Johnston Islands and Marshals. One look like CVE TF.



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We are now in 19 Oct 43
Last turn we upgraded to latest "s" patch.

Day earlier i set another CAP trap in Salomon's. 50 enemy bombers shot down.
Transport interception work perfectly. Last turn 16 C-47 shot down above Lasio.
I send 27 Tojos to intercept them. I use 50XP pilots, half of them after last turn is 60 XP

I see two TFs between Johnston Islands and Marshals. One look like CVE TF.




An underused tactic, I feel. You can really boost your pilots that way obviously. In my Historiker game he lost about 6-7 a turn for a while sending in PBY to pick up troops, and the Rufes pilots stationed at base went from 50/65 to 65/70 as a group with some pilots flirting with gold status. Those are rare for the Japanese after the beginning crews are lost, so any way to build them up like this is great.

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Burma
In few days allies will open north supply path to China. I have only one IR East of Lashio and that unit will retreat to Lashio in few days. Today that ubit was bombed from air.
Another important new is that Lashio was shock attacked today with good result. Burma map in next post.

Ground combat at Lashio (62,46)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1982 troops, 6 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 540

Defending force 4271 troops, 72 guns, 34 vehicles, Assault Value = 105

Allied adjusted assault: 34

Japanese adjusted defense: 217

Allied assault odds: 1 to 6 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Allied ground losses:
147 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 40 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
84th Indian Brigade
255th Armoured Brigade
75th Indian Brigade
26th Indian Brigade
86th Coast AA Regiment

Defending units:
143rd Infantry Regiment
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
26th Fld AA Gun Co
1st JNAF AF Unit


Timor/Arafura Sea
5 days ago my subs detect enemy Cargo TF sailing from East coast of OZ north toward Darwin. TF was moving steady 5 hex per day.
All calculation where telling me that today he will be in range for Bombers flying from Saumlaki. I adjusted search ranges to avoid detecting ships in Darwing hex. Action end with full success. Enemy cargo ships where transporting fuel. Tomorrow i will abandon Saumlaki as i expecting heavy sweeps and Ki-45 will have no chance against P-47, also base have no radar. Biggest gain for me is that Docup know that he can surprise me in that area and any enemy ship will be detected fast enough to give me time to react.

I have also secondary plan to stop that cargo TH i send some cruisers they where detected today and attacked from air byt lacky CAP manahe to disturb attackers and they all miss. In proces we shot down 9 enemy bombers.

Combat rapport is summary of multiple attacks.

Air attack on TF, near Wessel Islands at 83,122

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 20
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 50

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 11 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
AM Heed, Bomb hits 5, on fire, and is sunk
xAK Starr King, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAK Nicholas J. Sinnott, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK John Hart, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Samuel Gompers, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Moses Rogers
xAK R. C. Brennan, Shell hits 2
xAK Philip Doddridge, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Margaret Fuller, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
xAK Owen Summers, Bomb hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK William E. Channing, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAK Peter Donahue, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAK John C. Calhoun, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK John Page, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK William B. Ogden, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk


Aircraft Attacking:
20 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
50 x Ki-45 KAIa Nick bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb





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