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TH has offered his services to the empire of Japan, where as I hope to display a credible defense. If you have no stomach for tactical omissions, operational fauz pas, or strategic blunders, read no further.
SitRep: Dec 6th Pearl Harbor 6:00am
beautiful weather lots of tars on shore leave
post card perfect picture of battleship row
note: TH indicated he was interested in the "simulation" aspect of the game as it relates to historical events. I will not employ any gambits etc. that would in my opinion have been out of the question due to extreme risk, political considerations at the time, or just gamey in general. I will effect changes in strategy I feel were open to possibility at the time. ie. Its doubtful I will defend Malaya along its length to prevent cature of to many airfields etc..
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Orders received and sent for Dec. 7th, awaiting the outcome.
Only force Z and USN CVTFs were given orders. CVTFs altered to southernly course and rendevous SSW of Johnson Island.
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Dec7th
TWO ship lost!
USS California left Pearl with escorts and flags high.
No damage to port facilties and few aircraft lost (yet).however I cant count how many are damaged.
waiting for round two.

Pacific: ground units on the mainland attached to Pacific commands ordered to San Diego for embarkation
PI: many more damaged planes, will see how successful the evacuation of the merchant marine goes. political muscle used here to transfer flyable Boeings and PBYs to the rear.
Malaya: organizing the defense of Malaya. there will be a small rear guard followed by slightly stiffer line further (real far south) south. Gemas or Kluang. Yamashita will not defeat me piecemeal he will have to prepare for casulties.
DEI: some digging, supplying, and LBA arrangments.
China: appears quiet
Burma: lots of recon. I think the emperor may be looking here for real estate.
Stategy: I plan to fight in the Solomons. tenders are on the way for search a/c to be based between the Santa Cruz islands and New Caledonia. supplies are headed to Port Moresby. CVTFs to stand off awaiting intell. everything here will based on how good my search/recon becomes with regards to high value assets. In the PI and DEI I just want to bleed the Japanese as much as I can, learning more detail about ground combat as I go. I am going to defend Burma with forces available, so it wont hold long. I plan to be ready in India and are making preparations there. Man my wrist smarts!


Its been a long day. I entered 90% of the allied turn on an itty bitty screen. (I will now read the read me files.)

ps. thanks Crib, I'll need it.



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FYI: CG1
vers 1108p8
Terry s making me keep up with the Betas
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Allied Ships
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CM Oglala
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AV Tangier
xAKL Manini
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, on fire
BB California, Bomb hits 3, on fire
DD Cassin, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Alchiba, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AV Wright, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CL Honolulu, Torpedo hits 1
DM Pruitt, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Phoenix, Torpedo hits 1
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Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 61 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 217 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 8 destroyed on ground
B-18A Bolo: 45 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 3 destroyed on ground
P-36A Mohawk: 41 damaged
P-36A Mohawk: 3 destroyed on ground
B-17E Fortress: 20 damaged
SBD-1 Dauntless: 35 damaged
SBD-1 Dauntless: 2 destroyed on ground
O-47A: 16 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 79 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 4 destroyed on ground
A-20A Havoc: 31 damaged
A-20A Havoc: 3 destroyed on ground
R3D-2: 1 damaged
R3D-2: 1 destroyed on ground
C-33: 1 damaged
C-33: 1 destroyed on ground
F4F-3 Wildcat: 3 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat: 3 destroyed on ground
SNJ-3 Texan: 1 damaged
SNJ-3 Texan: 1 destroyed on ground
Thats alot of damaged PBYs
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Supreme Allied Head Quarters
December 8th 1941 In a small pub in Georgetown, three men sit huddled in a booth. George Marshall swallows hard, looks up at the oddest man he had ever seen, and extends his hand.
"how do you wish to be addressed?"
"Zulu..capital Z."
"and your oranazation, Theatre Wide Intelligence Troop, is that right?"
The two shake hands the way one would expect two strangers on the first tee of a public golf course on a two dollar nassau.
"It is. The organazation wil pass all orders to Theater commanders via thier XOs through my agents."
The odd man follows, gauging the Generals face,
"Say it George."
"May I call you George?"
General George C Marshall, leans back in the booth. Its very smokey in this bar, like sitting through a strategy session with Winnie he reflects.
"TWIT,......We are to be advised by TWITs"
"Yes sir."
"George?"
"Zulu"
"There is no button with your name on it."
Zulu smiles for the first time at the Chief of Staff, elbow extended in invitation to his female companion, and rises signaling the end of the meeting.
"Agents are all ready in the field, by the way you have a new Far East Air commander, I suggest you cable him congradulations on his appointment."


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December 9th 1941
Game notes: My opponent wishes a historical type game and I will try to oblige him. My goals are to: enjoy the game, learn the mechanics, look for S&T for future use. Because I expect some embarrassing moments I have decided to set up a scape goat ahead of time. AFBs take note I have no intension of being the first? to blow it as the Allies.

HQ:ZULU
The Japanese KB was spotted in the evening retiring to the west. The losses at PH were very favorable IMHO to us. Two CLs went down to torpedos leaving Pearl late on the eighth. They had operational points in the eighties and I ignored it. Lesson learned. Total ship losses so far, seven. The two CLs a DD and sub in Manila. In the air the zeros have ruled completely. Five P40 pilots have one kill.

Pacific: Turning some ships back to Pearl from the evacuation yesterday, while prepping
marine units for duty in New Caledonia. Looking at assets for Operation Fish Hook, the occupation and expansion of forward bases for support in the Solomon Islands. I think its historical and I want to get a head start.

PI: Zero sweeps over Clark and Manila were successful. I do not believe we got one Zero. The 11th and 5th Bomber groups along with some PBYs were evacuated to Australia. Not sure on the historical accuracy here, I know Mac made his way out on some, but I never cared for him anyway so maybe its my way of not having to deal with him for long. Bataan has requested supplies and is stockpiling, I hope.

DEI: quiet except for my filling the shipping lanes with small cargo TFs for the outposts.
force Z retires to Ceylon. I will not repeat that move. Perhaps Zulu is out to tweak history a bit.

China: Im trying to get a handle here. I have ordered some units to “flee” to the main lines, changed a couple of commanders, mostly north of Hong Kong. Over the weekend I hope to get things organized. I do not want waste the supply digging everywhere.


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hi Z,

good on ya for going w/ the beta for your CG. coupla' things:
- it's not necessary to evac ol' Dugout, if he gets iced in the PI, he'll re-spawn in Oz.
- while contemplating your fish hook, don't neglect to set up your global supply convoy network to India & Oz.
- pilot training! (repeat) pilot training! (repeat) - set yourself a schedule (don't rest on the 7th day, review sqns instead) where you'll check each sqn every 28 days. of course your PPs are precious, but a decent leader for 'training' sqns is a good investment. there's a page here tm.asp?m=2350193 that you'll want to bookmark.

best of luck in your game.
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ORIGINAL: zuluhour

"TWIT,......We are to be advised by TWITs"
"Yes sir."


Man....that hurt [:D][:D][:D]
If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
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nice for you to fictionally meet Gen. Marshall in a Georgetown bar! i hope you've arranged to expropriate enough DC real-estate for TWIT HQ.

i've read Ed Cray's bio 'General of the Army', Marshall is presented as a man of awesome intelligence & adamantine rectitude, he's in my short-list for 'best American evah'.
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Zulu HQ evening Dec. 9th
the TWITS have issued the orders.
radio silence tonight

I need all the help I can get, I will appreciate any comments.
Do you mean I can't get rid of Mac without hobnobbing in DC? Paying out of pocket? Im going to check the bank and see what hes worth.
All convoys are manual as yet. I have supply going to everything not in CenPac. In about five days I should have shipping where I need it. Do you suggest/use auto or CS style for OZ and beyond in PBEM? Thanks for the link, because I'm green, I have only played the AI, never opened the Beta till now, and Geeez THIS GAME IS HUGE!
ps. my manual is now a loose leaf.
pss Im having alot fun with this.
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re MacArthur, i think you can keep him in place to shore up the PI defense w/ his leader values, when his unit is destroyed, he'll re-appear in Oz at no PP cost.

wrt supply/reinf convoys, CS is best for 'secure' sea-lanes, never use it in contested areas. take note of convoy 'refuel' settings, esp. in early-war. you don't want to suck fuel from a forward base into a TF that has adequate fuel to return to a WestCoast base.

wrt LCUs, sure you need to move combat units forward - but you've also got to concentrate on sending Engrs/NavSupp units to build up defensible rear-area bases. Engrs to build up a base, Defense BTNs to defend it, USN BFs to use it better.

remember you're v. much earlywar, while you're lucky to have gotten off w/ light USN losses at PH, you're still extremely vulnerable, your oppo is going to come at you w/ everything he's got. IJ will have an 'amphibious advantage' for the 1st four months, & will send his KB deathstar against you! at this stage, your limited air assets are v. important for Search & CAP. watch their morale, when it's less than 85, it takes longer for them to Train back up. move your sqns to another base when they get beat up, don't keep them active 'til they're useless.

suggest you review the 'GreyJoy vs. Rader' AAR for add'l info, esp. wrt the CBI theater action.

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Dec 10th 1941
Zulu HQ
"Zulu?"
"yes number two."
"the color maps are ready for distribution to Kimmell, Marshall, and Nimitz."
"send them, I'm busy with the new supply team."
"theres a problem.....they wont load into the TWIT network from paint."
Zulu looks up slowly with the grin of a twelve year old who just noticed the dental assistant is'nt wearing a bra.
"The priority island material procurement Co will handle all supply to on map locations in sea lanes deemed safe from raiders."
"We will have more time to plot against the diminutive, near sighted, yellow leader." Zulu leaned back, the night has been long, so many facets, so many...
"Call Chester and arrange a meeting."

PH: The California returns to pier side and reports suggest she'll be 100% in under a week. The air groups are decimated here and I just noticed their moral
is'nt so hot either.
PI: Japs land in force today. North, South, and west of Manila. P40s suffer one to three at best in A2A. Only 2 pea shooters are actually airborn for the three sweeps. They are all Zeros. The P40s have to be airborn at altitude to have a chance when the strikes come in. This is the first time (with Beta) Im seeing reports of substanial Jap casulties at unopposed landings. Something like 50 of the little guys fell over board in one report.
Malaya: Zero sweeps decimate the CAP. I left Georgias AF down, and still lost/damaged 25% of them.

ps: any help on uploading graphics would be helpful, link etc. I like doing them in "paint". Simple, easy.
I would like to share them.
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December 12th 1941
OP plan Fish Hook
Zulu HQ
The first TF associated with Fish Hook leaves San Diego. Four xAKL, loaded with supply head out for the staging area. The lead ship is sunk 80nm WSW of the Channel Islands. First SNAFU in task force allocation by TWIT. I will delay departure of the main body 48hrs to allow for extra shipping to reach San Diego to enhance safety factor on the transports. Pear Harbor is crawling with subs forcing me to find a more suitable assembly area for the lead elements to reload in combat mode on the initial lift into the port. Saratoga and escorts are returning to San Diego from their shake down cruise for the primary escort. Four DDs will lead in ASW mode. Saratoga will be vulnerable as she will assume an air transport role.

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The ash tray overflows onto the desk leaving a trail of soot from its normal position in a far corner. The coffee rings look like failed search patterns on the nautical charts.
"zulu?" number two asks.
"yes."
"You forgot Chang and Mao...."
click...the light fails...SNAFU 2
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December 12th 1941
Baltimore Sun
headline: Fear Siam may defect to Axis
page 1: from Manila: Japs raid Clark Field around the clock
page 1 : Manila: US surface night raid on Jap beach head: Japs surprised: IJN warships fail to screen Jap troop carriers. : losses-light
page 6: Singapore: Georgetown hit by largest raid yet: Brittish forces ordered south: positions cited as untennable. (Is there a spell check here somewhere?!)

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December 14th 1941
Game: still working to get the situation under some level of control. The shipping lanes are clearing as the PI and 75% of the DEI merchantmen are exiting the theater. 36,120 pts of fuel are on the way to Perth on tankers from the PI and DEI evacuated TFs. Roughly 30,000 supply pts from Brittish sources are not far behind. I hope this holds me till the loose shipping returns to Columbo and the East Coast and I can establish a propper pipeline. "Thinz" is proving to be a great choice for my first PBM as he is very regular (with the turns, dont go there.) and with the simulation type of game allows me to learn/read/learn/read at a nice pace.

Zulu HQ:
"Number two!" Zulu looks like a man burning a candle at both ends.
"Hei"
"Not funny number two, have you seen the air reports from the PI?!"
"Hei!"
"They reflect a certain inadquecy on the part of the Army Air Corp. yes." number two is quick on his feet.
"Wheres my appoinment with Chester?" Zulu can change a subject faster than a game show host, thanks to twenty plus years of marriage.
"Hes not in charge yet. How about King?" number two is swift for a TWIT.
"No not....not yet."

San Diego:
TF90-DD/ASW TF101(transport) TF107(transport) CVTF(Saratoga) depart for Hawaii with elements of Fish Hook. TF117(transport)with escorts should depart in 48hrs.
Pearl Harbor: Crawling with I-boats (9 sighted yesterday) ASW TFs are locating them but cant land a barrel on'em.
Aus:Beefing up supply and relocating BFs on the North East Coast. note: Zulu HQ has established a link for operational help. I will give credit where credit is due in time. First I have to digest.
PI:
I think I've made Luzon a Zero ace factory.
DEI:
abandoning the Georgetown line. I am not cut off so things look as good as they can here I think.
Sumatra:
I have ordered forces meant for Singapore to unload at Oosthaven (geez wheres the spell check) I have no intention of mounting a fortress Palenbang (spell). I will defend India instead.
I do think it deserves more attention than I am giving it, but I have decided against it for this game.

Operation Fish Hook:
Forward Staging Area SoPac
OpPlan-revised-(CREDIT DUE: JMALTER thank you)OOB Phase I - Luganville (all planning)
USN BF x2
USA BF x2
Marine Defense Bn x2 (1 was reassigned)
198th FA
161st Inf Reg
8th Marine Reg
206 coastal AA (this may have been the unit which evolved into 2/59ADA, my unit in 1stAD Im checking)
808 Engineering Aviation Bn
USN Port Serv x2
31st PG and 19th BG are being considered for the initial air complement. However the P39s are making me real nervous after the P40 reports from the PI.
note: B17s from the PI are at Cairns close to full strength as well as a large group of Cats from the PI also. The Cats are on Horn.
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random thoughts here:

LCU pre-planning is important for combat ops, esp. so for an opposed amph assault, where 100% prep is a must. Even an amph landing on an undefended dot-base will incur some casualties in poorly-prepped units. But once your flag is on the base, amph load/unload will occur w/o probs, and a BF or Engr will perform equally well regardless of what base it's prepped for.

ASW must be a combined effort, where combined air & nav assets can increase detection levels on enemy subs to each other's benefit. Also i like your arrangement where ASW TF90 is the lead TF in your FH convoy, though you best have ASW escorts in each of the following TFs.

amongst all the myriad cleck-fisting you must do (have i mentioned pilot training), is turn off all air / land replacements except for units you decide on / choose manually. you don't want your airframe/device production to be suctioned off to rear-area units.

lastly, examine your entire fleet & start to get a handle on when / where to convert/upgrade. getting the latest radar/AA for combat vessels is important, also some few AP/AK types can change to APA/AKA, DDs to APDs or AVDs, etc. Upgradeable ships are potentially more valuable - so even if you don't start an upgrade/conversion right away, you can assign them to the less-risky tasks.
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