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Well Rob and I are at it again [:D] Our game has been going one for 6 months or so of real time but we are only in early May '42. Any one interested in another AAR ?

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Sure, the more JFB AAR's out there the better!
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would love to read ur aar
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Ah, I remember RRoberson......the only man in history to lose the whole KB before the middle of December 41[:D]
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A more common lament for RRoberson is getting his ALLIED carriers 'bettied'. Repeatedly. [:D]
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ORIGINAL: Miller

Ah, I remember RRoberson......the only man in history to lose the whole KB before the middle of December 41[:D]


Really ? I didn't know that.
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

A more common lament for RRoberson is getting his ALLIED carriers 'bettied'. Repeatedly. [:D]

This true - I have killed plenty of his CVs in past games... alas none in this one.
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I am currently at work but will try to make a large post tonight with pictures to bring the AAR up to date.

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Ok here we go - bringing you all up to date in my game vs Rob.

May 11th, 1942

The overall war goes good although I am approximately 6-8 weeks behind my invasion schedule - I have realized that I enjoy the economy and the strategy of the game yet fail at moving troops from Japan (or other starting locations) to where I need them thus my combat troops are usually less then the number needed for the job and it takes longer.

Let’s start with some basic updates in the order of how I look at them:


Burma

Well Burma goes slow – its currently a stalemate as neither of us has enough ground troops to do much here. I seem to have a slight advantage in combat value but not enough to do much more than I have currently. We both bomb each other with our aircraft and I think I have a slight advantage in quantity / quality of aircraft currently in Burma but that will soon change.

Currently my troops are stopped at Mandalay by about a dozen Allied units. I am trying to find units to move around to cut off escape before I make a big push here but lack the units and the combat strength to do either. He lacks the strength to push me out of Mandalay.

My secondary problem is supply – I cannot get enough supply to Burma. Unfortunately Singapore still stands and the sea-lanes to Rangoon are blocked (without heavy escort) so I have been moving supply overland via Bangkok-Rahaeng-Moulmein-Rangoon. It moves very slow and I am losing a lot of supply. I either need to take Singapore soon or send a large supply convoy to Rangoon.


Malaya

Singapore… Singapore… Singapore – that’s all that is left and even though I am sure it is either out of supplies or very near it I don’t have the combat strength to take it. Luckily Bataan recently fell and all the combat troops there will be coming to Malaya to help take Singapore. Once the attack begins I expect 7-10 days to take the city.


Sumatra / Borneo

I have landed some troops at Palembang but not enough against the forces there. Looks like Rob pulled all of the troops from Sumatra to Palembang – kind of crooked that CD guns assigned to other bases can move. My initial invasion got hammered by overwhelming CD gunfire and then came some aircraft. My LR CAP limited the air attacks, but then the Allied CVs showed up on the far side of Sumatra and 50+ SBDs bombed the initial invasion fleet. My limited LR CAP was overwhelmed and the TF paid for it – all transports were sunk. The troops mostly made it to shore, but disruption / fatigue was huge. The initial attacks were decent but not enough. I have another division landing there over the next day or two.

All of Borneo is mine except for Balikpapan and Samarinda. I have troops prepping for them and will soon invade once I know exactly where the Allied CVs are. I plan on invading Samarinda and then moving across the river to hit Balikpapan. I am hitting Samarinda mostly to avoid CD guns and mines at Balikpapan.


SE Asia

Not much going on here except for building of bases and upgrading ships at Saigon. Rob invaded Thailand with a small British unit which I have destroyed. The unit still exists but can’t have much of anything left. Constant air and ground attacks have whittled it down.


Formosa / Philippines

The Philippines are mine – only thing left to do is mop up the small islands. I have the troops that just took Bataan resting in Manilla regaining strength, while I sweep Bataan of mines. Then the troops will all mostly head to Malaya. Some will go other locations and at least 1 unit will begin clearing the small islands.


New Guinea Area

Moluccas and Ceram are mine as well as most (if not all) of New Guinea. There may be an allied base on the underside of the island (near Oz) but the only allied troops I know of is a beat up unit north of Port Moresby that I have chased all over beating on it – they pose no threat.

This is the first time in a game I have captured Port Moresby (or even tried for that matter) and I am trying to decide how much to reinforce it. Any suggestion ?


SW Pacific

The Solomons are mine – not every base but Shortlands, Tulagi and Lunga are mine – engineers are on each base slowly building up AFs and Forts. I expect I have roughly 6 months before the war starts down here so I need to be ready.


South Pacific

Not much action here until recent. I have taken Efate and am working my way down the island chain capturing all the bases. Not sure if I will garrison them or not, but I want to know when he moves in this area and owning the bases will do that.


SE Pacific

The usual moves here – including Tarawa and nearby islands. I have Baker and Canton as well. Trying to decide if I want Palmyra or any other islands. I know he has a lot of convoys moving to Christmas Island – have encountered numerous Transport TFs and sunk some troops here. I expect he is building up the island as a transit point between PH / US and OZ.


N Pacific

I have decided I want Dutch Harbor and it seems Rob has not reinforced it at all. The problem is my Naval Guard units just come off the ships and get all disrupted and cannot seem to overpower his small defending force. I currently have 2 Naval Guard units there and I still cannot beat the approx 25 Assault Value of the defenders. I am thinking of bringing in at least 1 more unit (maybe 2) to take the base and then pull them back.

Once I take Dutch Harbor I am planning on mining it and placing a ACM there to keep the mines in good order. The only way Rob can take it back is by sea invasion and a good minefield will help detere that - plus damage any marauding warships that come to play.


Japan

Not much to say here except that Tokyo has a bunch of small units still sitting there and I am trying to move them forward - usually 6 or so units at a time to allow for ASW and transport assets without hindering other areas.

The big task in Japan has been resource retrieval and coordinating my Industry to get the most I can get - more about that in another post.


China

China started slow and mostly ignored until the Chinese started causing trouble then I had to do something so I started putting time into the Area. Currently things are going smooth - I am smashing Chinese unit after Chinese unit in my interior and along the coast. I have captured Nanning on the west side of China as well as all the 'southern' bases except Wenchow - which will fall in a couple days. In 'my' interior only Chuhsien and Kanhsien remain in enemy hands which troops currently attacking Loyang in the north.

I plan on taking 'my' interior (everything south of the railroad) and holding along the rail lines as long as possible. I will also jump on any Chinese unit or base that is an easy kill - such as Loyang. Loyang isn't easy - Rob has a bunch of units there, but pushing him out of here will disrupt a bunch of Chinese units allowing me to move on down the rail with my 'stack' without much worry of counterattack for a while.
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Currently my troops are stopped at Mandalay by about a dozen Allied units. I am trying to find units to move around to cut off escape before I make a big push here but lack the units and the combat strength to do either.

Tsk, tsk -- it sounds like the Burma Road is still open. Smashing Chinese units is well and good, but as long as Allied supplies can flow in, the Chinese have virtually unlimited manpower.
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ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

Tsk, tsk -- it sounds like the Burma Road is still open. Smashing Chinese units is well and good, but as long as Allied supplies can flow in, the Chinese have virtually unlimited manpower.

Yeah I know. I want to push across the river and take both Shwebo and Lashio - as intel shows them both lightly defended currently. But I just don't have the troops yet. I am hoping I can take Singapore quickly and then more a large portion of the troops north into Burma. I want to take Myitkyina to secure the rail for me and take Akyab and the other coastal base to the north - not so much as to keep but to deny it to the Allies.

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Aircraft production

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Here is a screen shot of my current aircraft production

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As you can see I have placed a large emphasis on Oscars and Zeros atm while building up a nice pool of Nells and Betties. The G3M3 Nell just came online and I am starting to build them.

Next post will show the intel screen.

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Below is a shot of my Intel screen showing losses and scores.



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Update

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A big update will have to wait until I get home and have access to the latest turn and my notes - my work copy of the game isn't working for some reason so I can't load anything at work.

The big events for the last turn are:

I captured Palembang - finally. After about a week of having troops on the ground I finally take it in a brutal shock attack.

I captured Loyang (china) displacing and routing 19 Chinese units. I think I am going to pursue these units and keep crushing them while they are fatigued and disrupted. At least push them back another hex or 2.

The British CVs reveal themselves south of Sorong. British aircraft strike at Sorong, hitting a pair of AKs at the pier undergoing repairs. Several bombs increase the damage but my Zeros flying cap took a few of the British down as well. Recon shows the British fleet about 4 hexes south of Sorong and says there are 2 CVLs and 3 CVs - which the British do not even own. There are at least 2 British carriers there due to number of planes attacking Sorong. I have moved 3 Fleet CVs and 1 CVL into range to attack them should they stay in the same rough area this coming turn. My aircraft should plow through any CAP he has and my Kates should score.

The big question still remains where are his US CVs. I know they are around OZ / JAVA somewhere - I wonder if he is baiting me with the less important British CVs and having the US airpower ready to pounce. I know he is anxious to have a CV battle so he can decrease my pilot pools but I'm not willing to throw them away so easily.

Oh well a full update later today.

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Upcoming Battle

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Here is a picture of the current 'hot area'. The British CVs are located in Red and I am moving my CVs to the hex marked in Green. Hopefully the Brits will stay in the area and I can launch on them.



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Just ran the turn and nothing much happened. As you can see by the picture below the British CVs moved just out of range (7 hexes away - and i set my planes to 6 hexes max [:@]). The British CV TF is marked in Red, my CVs are in green and look what showed up to the SW of the Brits - another CV TF - has to be the US Carriers (marked in blue).

So it does look like the Brit CVs were bait to lure me out and to spend my aircraft against the Brits so the US can waltz right in. Not a bad trap by Rob.



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Ship Losses

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Here is the total ship Losses for each side up to date (with FOW).

Allies:

BC x1 BB x1
CA x2 CL x7
DD x12 SS x5
AVD x1 AVP x3
PC x1 PT x8
HDML x8

AP x2 xAP x7
xAK x25 xAKL x21
TK x9 AM x2
AG x1 CM x1
YP x3 ML x10
CMc x1



IJN:

E x1 DMS x4
PB x2 APD x1

xAP x6 AO x1
xAK x39 AK x2
xAKL x3 AMC x1
SSX x15
TK x2


My losses have been very light I feel (except for xAKs) and most of them have been lost in landings against CD fire.

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My losses have been very light I feel (except for xAKs)

True, but Allied losses have been fairly light as well, with the possible exception of CL's. (Do they include the deadly Boise?)
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ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

True, but Allied losses have been fairly light as well, with the possible exception of CL's. (Do they include the deadly Boise?)

Yes, the Boise has been sunk.

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Update

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May 16th, 1942

Not much has been happening the last few days - bases are being built and small combats are taking place in China.

An IJN Sub sunk a US TK east of PH. It is part of a TF I am trailing that seems to be heading back to the West Coast - so it was most likely empty. But a Tanker kill is still good.

I was sending some reinforcements to Canton I preceeded by a small combat TF of 2 CLs. The 2 CLs reacted right into a small allied convoy of 1 DD, 2 APs and 5 AKs. At the end the paint was scratch on an IJN CL and all the allied ships were sunk. Unfortunately the ships were all empty but it was still a nice battle. Torpedoes accounted for half the ships sunk.

In China, Wenchow has fallen.

His CVs have fallen off the radar but I believe they are heading around the northern edge of OZ towards Ports Moresby. I don't have enough LBA in that area, but my CVs are following along the northern edge of New Guinea. I am moving my CVs forward so if the allies move to bomb Port Moresby my CVs should be in range to launch on them.

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May 20th, 1942

A couple more slow days involving nothing much more than bombings and useless sub attacks.

Rob's CVs have disappeared somewhere between Port Moresby and OZ. Not sure if he is heading them back to the West Coast for all the upgrades / repairs or looking for some action in the Coral Sea. My CVs are closing together and I will have 5 fleet CVs plus a CVL gathered within two days. Once they are refueled I will go hunting. If I cannot find his CVs I will raid OZ.

My other 2 Fleet CVs are moving through the DEI and looking to raid Norther OZ. Getting tired of his heavy bomber attacks and I think they are based at Darwin, so I will raid the base hitting the airfield first and then the port. Then either withdraw or hit the ports to the west of Darwin as well where my subs have noticed small convoys of tankers moving back and forth - probably to Soerbaja for fuel.

Finally the Yamato has arrived [:D] I am teaming it up with another CVL in Japan. They will then either await a few more warships (if any are nearing completion) or be sent out into the ocean - probably either to the SW Pacific (if there ends up being action there) or west towards Java and Sumatra.

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