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RE: Update: August 7th, 1942 - 9/29/2011 3:16:28 AM   
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What size garrison would you recommend ? A single Naval Guard Unit enough after forts are built ?

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I'd put more there. A brigade at least. It can be a nasty thorn in the side for whoever doesn't own it.

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RE: Update: August 7th, 1942 - 9/29/2011 7:11:00 AM   
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What size garrison would you recommend ? A single Naval Guard Unit enough after forts are built ?

Xargun



I'd put more there. A brigade at least. It can be a nasty thorn in the side for whoever doesn't own it.

Agreed. At least. With good supply base. Very hard to hit with LBA, that means to reduce, the allies have to park their CV's and use them or use BB's which have to also travel a long way to re-arm. Either way, you have a lot of opportunities to attrit forces while they seige.

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RE: Update: August 7th, 1942 - 9/29/2011 2:58:40 PM   
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use BB's which have to also travel a long way to re-arm.


Just a thought about BBs and bombardment. They usually get one shot and then have to rearm, which means 1 or more AKEs in the vicinity. I like using CAs for bombardment. You can get 2-3 days of bombarding before they have to rearm.

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RE: Update: August 7th, 1942 - 9/29/2011 4:35:33 PM   
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Agreed. At least. With good supply base. Very hard to hit with LBA, that means to reduce, the allies have to park their CV's and use them or use BB's which have to also travel a long way to re-arm. Either way, you have a lot of opportunities to attrit forces while they seige.


Ok - I have a restricted Bde sitting in Tokyo right now that I can easily buy out and send there to take it and hold it. But I think I will take it with a small force and then land the Bde to garrison as to not give away any free intel on the size of the units there - this trick has already allowed me to smash 1 small invasion of Rob's where he landed a raiding force on an island (Wake I think) without expecting such a large force that was there.

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RE: Update: August 7th, 1942 - 9/29/2011 4:36:52 PM   
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Just a thought about BBs and bombardment. They usually get one shot and then have to rearm, which means 1 or more AKEs in the vicinity. I like using CAs for bombardment. You can get 2-3 days of bombarding before they have to rearm.


Usually you can get 2 bombardments from a BB before needing rearmed - that can be 2 in one day (night and day) or 2 separate ones. North Pacific could be a fun place for a bunch of RO subs that are otherwise useless.

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RE: Update: August 7th, 1942 - 9/29/2011 7:03:50 PM   
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use BB's which have to also travel a long way to re-arm.


Just a thought about BBs and bombardment. They usually get one shot and then have to rearm, which means 1 or more AKEs in the vicinity.

Which is good news as allies don't have many places to put AKE's in the area. If you put an air HQ with Nettie's there ... oh the sting.

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Update: August 19th, 1942 - 10/4/2011 4:27:03 PM   
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Time for another update

Burma

Air combat in Burma has toned down a bit after some furious bombings and fighter duels over my leading troops and Rob's retreating men from Shwebo. I have pulled back and am building some runways at Shwebo for fighters and have moved more AA units into the base.

I have also captured Myitkyina at the end of the railway and smashed 1 surviving base force and destroyed another one.


Sumatra

Haven't had an air raid on Palembang in weeks now - but I am still flying a decent CAP until I take all of Java. I am slowly rebuilding the oil there and don't want to risk an easy raid by his Heavies.

All bases on Sumatra except Sabang are captured and a division of troops are marching along the rail to take Sabang. Medan was captured with its oil fields completely intact (about time I get a break) and the minor damage at Bengkalis has been repaired. Oil & Fuel is flowing to Singapore in small convoys to be picked up enmass and hauled to Japan.


Java

A rough division of troops is attacking Batavia and I hope to capture it this next turn. Then I will turn all troops southwards and sweep down the island to Soerbaja.


DEI

I am waiting a unit of paratroopers to arrive at Ambon so I can drop them onto the chain of islands between me and Darwin. I don't dare risk any ships there without heavy air cover and my recon has spotted numerous subs in the waters as well.


Solomons

Not much is happening here. I am landing base forces at Torokina and Russell Islands to begin building airfields and forts. I have been watching Rader vs Greyjoy and noticed the power of interlocking airfields. I have a feeling Rob will come this way in early - mid 43 and I want to be ready.


South Pacific

2 Armed Merchant Raiders found a USN Convoy very south and managed to engage it once before the convoy was too close to New Zealand. 1 AMC was slightly damaged by the minor escort (3 PCs). The pair of raiders managed to sink 4 American TKs full of fuel.


North Pacific

An intel miracle has happened and told me an American unit (forget which one) was planning for Paramushiro-jima I have dispatched a couple subs to check out the waters east of Dutch Harbor for any ships or such. While I wait for that intel, I have also recieved HEAVY TRANSMISSIONS from Kodiak. I know Rob dumped a bunch of men and supplies there during my last incursion up north. I wonder if he is planning a little party of his own.

I am moving men and ships into the area as fast as I can but depends on where he is (if he is even coming) I may be too late. Although I think he will have to hit Amchitka first or risk me having a base behind him. If he is coming he has to bring CVs as he will have no air support otherwise. If he comes I expect to see several CVs and heavy surface combatants. Luckily I have 3 CVs at Japan right now (1 sitting in Tokyo and 2 more arriving for their upgrades) - all 3 plus CVEs and CVLs have been ordered to the Kuriles.

I am also moving men to Paramushiro - dropping of an artillery unit, half of a Naval Guard and I have a full brigade enroute. Unless he brings multiple divisions this should be enough to hold him.


OZ

My subs have relocated 2 British Convoys that moved west of Java and headed into Northern OZ. The first convoy was hit and 2 TKs were sunk - burning brightly (definately hauling fuel).

The second convoy is sitting still for an unknown reason but my sub hit it and over 2 days have sunk 3 xAKs - all carrying fuel.

The subs have been ordered to continue to harass the convoys until either they make port or I completely lose them again.


Allied Ships Sunk:

xAK - 3
TK - 6


Japanese Ships Sunk:

xAK - 1
PB - 1


Economy

My economy is doing good but some indepth analysis showed I only have a couple months surplus of fuel in Japan. I have been hauling the heck our of resources but not so much fuel - been hauling oil. I have now found all my real Tankers (anything over capacity of 1250) (and been converting xAKs into TKs as able) and have them out picking up both oil and fuel. I have nearly 800k fuel sitting between Palembang and Singapore that I need to move. Not to mention the 250k oil.

Tarakin and Balikpapin are also beaming with liquid goodies - although I have been doing good with Tarakin - I need to clean up Balikpapin now - there are 150k fuel plus 50k oil sitting there.

I am only 2 weeks away from starting my production of Tojo fighters and cannot wait for a better fighter for my army - the oscar is just outmatched by the Brits in Burma. I have also switched one of my A6M2 factories over to A6M3 and turned on production of them - the fighter is not CV capable (and has less range) but I can use them on my land units for now until the A6M3a comes out in December - plus the A6M3 factory upgrades for free to the 3a.

My pools of Zeros and Oscars are slowly decreasing which has made me increase my engine production to support running all Oscars / Zero factories each turn (I had been running one or the other). As soon as I start making Tojos I will turn off the Oscars and possible retool one or more of those factories - just not sure into what.

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Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/6/2011 3:35:21 AM   
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Rob and I have pushed out another week of turns and am waiting now to learn the fate of several IJN Carriers...

Last turn I moved my small CV TF (3 CVs and a CVL) within range of Rob's amphibious landings at Amchikta. I was hoping to stay out of his CV range while being able to hit the landing force - I was wrong. Looks like Rob moved west right into me - we ended up 1 hex apart without reacting to each other. Storms were all around us but the fight was on.

I launched first and my attack was not spectacular - most of my Kates and Vals missed but we did hit 3 Carriers with a combination of bombs and torpedoes:

CVL Hermes took 4 bombs and 3 torpedoes and seems to have sunk
CV Formidable took 1 bomb and 3 torpedoes
CV Wasp took 2 bombs and 3 torpedoes

I missed CV Indomitable, CV Lexington and CV Saratoga

The turn went on with my other air attacks and I began to hope maybe the weather in his hex was bad enough he didn't launch.. but he did - a huge wave of aircraft - including I believe marine planes. He must have stacked extra units on at least 1 CV -- isn't these a limit to 5 units on a CV before they won't work or something ?

At first I saw 200+ aircraft attacking and I was shocked - then I saw my CAP -- 60 Zeros -- and I thought - ok I will whittle down some of this before they hit. But no.. Despite picking up the raid on radar only like 20 zeroes defended my ships - the rest must have been off having some Saki. My CAP did a horrible job and only shot down maybe 6 or so enemy planes -- although he did have 50+ Wildcats to keep my zeros busy.

At first his bombers were just dropping their bombs (1000 pounders) into the water around my ships, then they started to hit. Luckily I had 2 BBs in the TF and they attracted a lot of attention - and all the bombs that hit them bounced off their armor - a few AA guns lost, but no real damage. Then the torpedo bombers started to hit and it got messy...

After the first wave left:

CVL Shoho - 3 bombs, 1 torpedo
CV Kaga - 1 bomb
CV Hiyo - 1 bomb, 1 torpedo
BB Yamato - 1 bomb, 3 torpedo
BB Yamashiro - 4 bombs, 1 torpedo

I was happy with the results - the Shoho was burning but its only a CVL. The Hiyo took a torp but of the 3 CVs there she is the worst one so if I had to sacrifice a CV I would pick her. I thought we were good until the 2nd, and 3rd and more waves hit.

The rest of Rob's aircraft started coming in piecemeal - 6 bombers or so at a time. I still had 40 Zeros on CAP and thought I will wipe these out easily but no - my CAP refused to engage any of the incoming bombers except the last group which it hit on the way out - after they attacked. The secondary waves - which my CAP should have handled easily - did the following damage:

CV Kaga - 2 torpedo
CV Akagi - 1 torpedo

I have more CVs approaching the area so it will be curious to see if Rob stays and fights or runs. He has landed men for 2 days on Amchitka which is only defended by a Naval Guard Unit so he can easily pull all of his ships out and flee and still take the island. If he stays I have more air power arriving and I don't believe he has any backup - its all or nothing for him.

I am awaiting the followup turn from Rob to see what the fate of my CVs and his are and will post once I run the turn...

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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/6/2011 2:08:53 PM   
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OK more news...

The damage from the CV clash was (SYS/FLT/ENG/Fire):

CV Akagi - 19/13/4/0
CV Kaga - 44/38/38/4
CV Hiyo - 50/31/40/3
CVL Shoho - 59/45/27/99
BB Yamato - 11/43/1/0
BB Yamashiro - 16/49/7/0

This was the damage I received in exchange for 1 sunk British CVL and 2 heavily damaged CVs (1 Brit & 1 US). I ordered all undamaged escorts with Akagi and fled west back towards Japan at Flank speed - unless Rob did the same at least the Akagi would escape -- I doubted very much he would do a high speed run towards Japan.

I left all the damaged ships together and they moved as fast as they could west as well.

Most of the airgroups from the damaged Carriers landed on Amchitka Island and I went through them and transfered all the decent pilots into the reserve as Amchitka will fall any day and I have no way of rescuing the groups. I transfered 2 groups to the Akagi as she was escaping the area. I also transfered off all good pilots from the heavily damaged CVs so even if they all were sunk at least I could save some pilots.

I stayed up late waiting for Rob to get home and send me the turn so I could learn the fate of my ships and I was happy with the results...

Rob said he pursued but I don't think he did. I think he stayed near Amchitka to protect his multiple invasion fleets. Either way the Akagi is far away and safe. The rest of the ships are farther away and were not detected by scout aircraft - but neither were his ships.

In the turn the Shoho sunk - she burned down to the waterline. Never seen 99 Fire damage before

Looks like the rest of the ships will survive - if I can continue to move away without Rob finding me at least. Only 1 ship had increased FLT damage (by only 1 point) and the fires are all out. I have 3 baby CVs (1 CVL and 2 CVEs) moving east from the Kuriles to provide LR CAP over the cripples and 2 more fleet CVs moving into the area as well - coming all the way from their upgrades at Singapore. Now I just need to decide to continue the fight against his CVs or simply wait for him to leave the area before continuing on.

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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/6/2011 2:27:52 PM   
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Shoho for Hermes is a bad trade. What kind of damage was reported on the 2 hit Allied CVs, in the combat replay? 3 and 2 torps might be enough to sink them both, but with those cripples of yours if Allies have the rest of their CV fleet there you wont be able overwhelm them. Allies have 450+ aircraft aboard surviving CVs while you can only bring ~400. I might not take my chances with the Japanese damage control against their CVs, but they now might be more interested in escorting the cripples of their own rather than the amphibious TFs...

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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/6/2011 2:28:47 PM   
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Kaga and Hiyo are still dicey.  Anytime sys dam approaches 50%, they can accumulate more quickly.  Move slow and make sure they have lot's of DD escorts.  Good luck.

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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/6/2011 2:53:51 PM   
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Shoho for Hermes is a bad trade. What kind of damage was reported on the 2 hit Allied CVs, in the combat replay? 3 and 2 torps might be enough to sink them both, but with those cripples of yours if Allies have the rest of their CV fleet there you wont be able overwhelm them. Allies have 450+ aircraft aboard surviving CVs while you can only bring ~400. I might not take my chances with the Japanese damage control against their CVs, but they now might be more interested in escorting the cripples of their own rather than the amphibious TFs...


I would agree - losing the Shoho in trade for the Hermes is a bad trade. As for the 2 allied CVs - Combat Reports say the both took 3 torps each - usually 3 torps is enough to sink a capital ship so I am guessing 1 of them is FOW. But even if only 2 torps hit the CVs there are in the same condition mine are - 40ish damage for system and float. I have 1 sub looking for them now and am moving more into the area. Hopefully I can finish one or both of them off.

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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/6/2011 2:55:19 PM   
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Kaga and Hiyo are still dicey.  Anytime sys dam approaches 50%, they can accumulate more quickly.  Move slow and make sure they have lot's of DD escorts.  Good luck.


Now that they are in the clear, they will slow down and I will assign escorts. If they can get to the Kuriles then I can save them - unless something bad happens to them. I can send ARs to them and then move them to a repair yard fairly easily from the Kuriles.

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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/6/2011 3:02:12 PM   
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Xargun, carrier battles like that make me cringe. Here's something I do. If possible, I send a CVE TF to follow KB, just in range to the west. They are spare flight decks to take on planes if KB has some damaged carriers. Sometimes it doesn't work quite the way it's planned though. I once had it too close to KB and the Allied CVs went after them, sinking Hosho and Taiyo. KB trashed the Allied carriers though.

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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/6/2011 3:04:44 PM   
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Shoho for Hermes is a bad trade. What kind of damage was reported on the 2 hit Allied CVs, in the combat replay? 3 and 2 torps might be enough to sink them both, but with those cripples of yours if Allies have the rest of their CV fleet there you wont be able overwhelm them. Allies have 450+ aircraft aboard surviving CVs while you can only bring ~400. I might not take my chances with the Japanese damage control against their CVs, but they now might be more interested in escorting the cripples of their own rather than the amphibious TFs...


I would agree - losing the Shoho in trade for the Hermes is a bad trade. As for the 2 allied CVs - Combat Reports say the both took 3 torps each - usually 3 torps is enough to sink a capital ship so I am guessing 1 of them is FOW. But even if only 2 torps hit the CVs there are in the same condition mine are - 40ish damage for system and float. I have 1 sub looking for them now and am moving more into the area. Hopefully I can finish one or both of them off.

Xargun



I mean... Do you still have the combat replay somewhere? In the saves sent emails or somewhere? Review it - it'll ask for player 2's password, but just hit enter and it lets you review the turn replay, just without the stuff Allied player would see. What kind of damage are they reported to suffer... Fuel, ammo or internal explosions, what kind of flooding, possible listing etc.

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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/6/2011 4:19:39 PM   
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Xargun, carrier battles like that make me cringe. Here's something I do. If possible, I send a CVE TF to follow KB, just in range to the west. They are spare flight decks to take on planes if KB has some damaged carriers. Sometimes it doesn't work quite the way it's planned though. I once had it too close to KB and the Allied CVs went after them, sinking Hosho and Taiyo. KB trashed the Allied carriers though.


I thought about bringing in the baby CV TF (1 CVL and 2 CVEs) behind but they all have their own air groups so that may not have helped much. Most of my CVEs with no internal Air groups are sitting in port - not sure what to do with them.

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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/6/2011 4:21:30 PM   
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I mean... Do you still have the combat replay somewhere? In the saves sent emails or somewhere? Review it - it'll ask for player 2's password, but just hit enter and it lets you review the turn replay, just without the stuff Allied player would see. What kind of damage are they reported to suffer... Fuel, ammo or internal explosions, what kind of flooding, possible listing etc.



Yeah - the allied CVs were both reported to be listing twice (right after torp hits), but no explosions. They are reported as heavily damaged.

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Quick Update: August 27th, 1942 - 10/6/2011 4:25:59 PM   
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Ok I have just sent the next turn off to Rob and took a hard look at the actual Major damage on the ships and they don't seem too bad (except for Kaga). Here it is (Major damage only- SYS/FLT/ENG):

CV Akagi - 0/4/0
CV Kaga - 0/24/23
CV Hiyo - 0/8/21
BB Yamato - 0/25/0
BB Yamashiro - 0/18/0

So roughly a month in drydock for everyone but Akagi and Kaga. Akagi will be a couple days and Kaga will be more like 2 months. Both Akagi and Kaga need to do their upgrades too so it will work out. Luckily my repair yards are mostly empty except for an occasional conversion or upgrade.

Replacing the aircraft will be easy and I should be able to pull experienced pilots out of the reserves to fill their ranks.

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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/6/2011 4:26:01 PM   
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I mean... Do you still have the combat replay somewhere? In the saves sent emails or somewhere? Review it - it'll ask for player 2's password, but just hit enter and it lets you review the turn replay, just without the stuff Allied player would see. What kind of damage are they reported to suffer... Fuel, ammo or internal explosions, what kind of flooding, possible listing etc.



Yeah - the allied CVs were both reported to be listing twice (right after torp hits), but no explosions. They are reported as heavily damaged.

Xargun




Both reported to be listing and counter flooding twice!? Those are the weakest(as in, least durable) Allied CVs: they are very likely in much worse condition than your cripples! Any Allied CV aircraft destroyed on the ground lately?

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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/6/2011 4:28:04 PM   
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Both reported to be listing and counter flooding twice!? Those are the weakest(as in, least durable) Allied CVs: they are very likely in much worse condition than your cripples! Any Allied CV aircraft destroyed on the ground lately?


Yes to the listing / counter flooding. Haven't seen any destroyed on ground aircraft since the first fight - where I believe the Hermes went down - roughly 30 British planes destroyed on the ground. I watch the lost airplane screen closely each turn and am hoping to see some soon.

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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/6/2011 4:30:59 PM   
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Xargun, carrier battles like that make me cringe. Here's something I do. If possible, I send a CVE TF to follow KB, just in range to the west. They are spare flight decks to take on planes if KB has some damaged carriers. Sometimes it doesn't work quite the way it's planned though. I once had it too close to KB and the Allied CVs went after them, sinking Hosho and Taiyo. KB trashed the Allied carriers though.


I thought about bringing in the baby CV TF (1 CVL and 2 CVEs) behind but they all have their own air groups so that may not have helped much. Most of my CVEs with no internal Air groups are sitting in port - not sure what to do with them.

Xargun




Those are the guys I use. Sometimes I'll escort them with Hosho for CAP & ASW support.

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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/6/2011 4:32:32 PM   
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Both reported to be listing and counter flooding twice!? Those are the weakest(as in, least durable) Allied CVs: they are very likely in much worse condition than your cripples! Any Allied CV aircraft destroyed on the ground lately?


Yes to the listing / counter flooding. Haven't seen any destroyed on ground aircraft since the first fight - where I believe the Hermes went down - roughly 30 British planes destroyed on the ground. I watch the lost airplane screen closely each turn and am hoping to see some soon.

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Can Hermes carry 30 planes?

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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/6/2011 4:42:45 PM   
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Hermes carries 20... Theres either some FOW in the exact numbers or you also got a British CV but majority of its aircraft managed to fly to a land base...

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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/6/2011 10:48:54 PM   
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Hermes carries 20... Theres either some FOW in the exact numbers or you also got a British CV but majority of its aircraft managed to fly to a land base...

Or were lost in other combat .. .not ground losses ...?


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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/6/2011 11:48:29 PM   
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Wow - just ran the next turn and Rob came storming west and caught my fleeing cripples. In a very one sided attack (since I didn't have any planes in the air) consisting of multiple waves all of my cripples were sunk. The worst defeat in so far in the game - my own little midway. He also took Amchitka destoying another 50 planes on the ground that were stuck there. In all told I lost over 100 planes last turn - most of them had no pilots.

I will do another update later but I'm a bit depressed at the moment - I thought I had escaped.

Xargun

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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/7/2011 12:22:15 AM   
Mike Solli


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Kaga, Hiyo and the 2 BBs?

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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/7/2011 3:49:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

Kaga, Hiyo and the 2 BBs?


Yep - everything was lost. The escorting DDs were untouched and fled at flank speed and escaped the next turn. So it looks like I have suffered a Midway-like defeat.

CV Kaga
CV Hiyo
CVL Shoho
BB Yamato
BB Yamashiro

all lost in exchange for a crappy CVL and two crippled CVs. This will change my strategy quite a bit as I won't get another CV for at least 6 months.

The Akagi is beat up some but will make port this turn and will be repaired in roughly a month. So that will leave me with 6 CVsm plus a smattering of CVEs and CVLs.

One thing I did notice is that I was able to buy back all the air groups from the lost carriers So over the next 6 months I will receive a bunch of air groups allowing me to at least use the planes at bases.

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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/7/2011 3:53:59 PM   
Mike Solli


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Did you lose many good pilots?

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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/7/2011 8:27:21 PM   
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Did you lose many good pilots?


I think I lost a total of like 20 pilots total (10 KIA and 10 MIA). I was able to remove all pilots with any shred of skills from the surviving air groups and the carriers the turn after they were crippled - I was even able to get the ones from the Shoho before she burned to the waterline. So I have a lot of good and decent pilots saved - and in 6 months or so I will have all the air groups back -- just no mobile platform to use them from.

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RE: Quick Update: August 26th, 1942 - CV Battle - 10/7/2011 8:35:49 PM   
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Yep - everything was lost. The escorting DDs were untouched and fled at flank speed and escaped the next turn. So it looks like I have suffered a Midway-like defeat.

CV Kaga
CV Hiyo
CVL Shoho
BB Yamato
BB Yamashiro


The Yamato is gone in 1942?? Wow -- you wuz robbed!

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