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How do you play WitE?


Against the AI only
  38% (59)
More vs the AI then against another person
  15% (23)
Split evenly between AI and 2-player games
  7% (12)
More against another person than vs the AI
  22% (34)
Only against another person
  16% (25)


Total Votes : 153


(last vote on : 8/23/2011 6:41:46 AM)
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How do you play WitE? - 7/26/2011 8:24:53 PM   
Joel Billings


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So the question is, "how do you play WitE?" If you play a quick learning test game against the AI and then quickly shift to only playing against another human player, please answer that you only play against another person. It would be useful if the lurkers would come out and show themselves for this poll, as it does give us an idea of where we should focus our time on this and future games in the series. My belief is that a large percentage of lurkers and/or people that never come to the forums are AI players, and that the majority of users are AI players (but I've been wrong before). I will be posting another question re Multiplayer versus PBEM usage.

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/26/2011 9:19:01 PM   
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You are exactly right as far as this old SSI War in Europe player is concerned. The game is SO mammoth that at the present time (since it was released) I'm content to read every scrap of information submitted in the forums before submitting on them. Thanks, btw, to those who answer questions submitted on the forums. Their expertise and knowledge is very much appreciated by those of us who want to learn every aspect of this great game.

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/26/2011 9:54:56 PM   
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I've used AI to learn mechanics, and might again in future, but the unpredictability of a human opponent can't be bettered.

Do you count hotseat play as human vs human? Perhaps that should have been among the options to vote for.

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/26/2011 9:55:11 PM   
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Playing against the human player is most fun as you never know what they do.

AI is good only for learning basics IMHO.

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/26/2011 10:16:57 PM   
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play vs human via slitherine server

The ai is good also, but "live" games are so easy to get I hardly ever play solitaire now.

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/26/2011 10:22:00 PM   
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I would be interested in what the split is between German only, Soviet only or play both sides players.

BTW I only ever play other people. I get no enjoyment at all from playing AI. It seems so pointless.

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/26/2011 10:46:53 PM   
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As a long time lurker I'll come out of the shadows to say that I play the game against the AI exclusively.  For me gaming is a recreation that I don't want to have any obligations to.  I enjoy being able to sit down and play four or five turns then not touch the game for a week, or quit and restart a game without annoying another player or having to schedule my gaming. 

I also don't have the time to really master a single game so playing against the AI will be challenging enough for me.


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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/26/2011 10:54:53 PM   
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I play it with a spoon!


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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/27/2011 12:28:03 AM   
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I am a daily lurker but I post from time to time.  I have played a few of the smaller scenarios against other people but my spare time is so limited that I can't commit to play a full game against another person, although I would really like to.  So far my grand campaign experience is only vs the AI and mostly as the Germans.

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/27/2011 1:54:44 AM   
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Poll results show two extremes.  People who play most vs. AI and people who play vs. people.
Goes to show you can't just do a multiplayer only game, or an AI only game.  But what's interesting is not a lot chose the middle ground.

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/27/2011 2:49:06 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jomni

Poll results show two extremes.  People who play most vs. AI and people who play vs. people.
Goes to show you can't just do a multiplayer only game, or an AI only game.  But what's interesting is not a lot chose the middle ground.



Well one way to look at it is that a majority (of 51%) play both. You do have a point though that there's a lot at the extremes.

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/27/2011 3:03:58 AM   
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I usually play solitaire against another person.

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/27/2011 5:57:52 AM   
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I have been playing since the game was released against the AI. It takes my 2-3 hours a turn, which when your playing a Campaign is a big committment. I'm still learning btw.

When i have a spare 6 months in my life I will play against another person.

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/27/2011 6:43:41 AM   
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Ai only here.

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/27/2011 9:08:10 AM   
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Have too look at it this way, most of the people who buy the game don't even post online or vote let alone play multiplayer or Email.

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/27/2011 11:25:44 AM   
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I draw more fun from playing other humans, but alas, I don't have always time and I probably would annoy my opponent playing 6 turns in one week and 1 turn in the next. The AI is much more forgiving in that respect. Voted "the AI more than another person", but that may (better: hopefully will - as time situation improves) change in the future.


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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/27/2011 1:03:07 PM   
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I would love to play against a human opponent but just don't have that kind of time,especially this time of year. Fortunately the AI is really good.

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/27/2011 2:28:22 PM   
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I play only against the AI. It boils down to time commitments.

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/27/2011 6:00:24 PM   
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I have played many hours as Axis vs the AI.

I started my first game with a good human play a couple of months and don't think I will ever go back to playing the AI as Axis anyway.

An awesome game for those of us especially who started out with Avalon Hills Stalingrad game years ago.



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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/28/2011 12:18:02 PM   
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I play a few turns against AI when I need a break from WITP:AE.
So far I only get a few months done before I start over.
It is complexed so I am trying to play concentrating on some aspects each time, and letting others just play out. The Air bit I haven't looked at yet. Happy enough with letting it attack/defend by itself.

Hopefully, when I am ready to commit to a full game (and have the time), I should have a rough idea on how ALL the parts interact.


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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/28/2011 1:02:24 PM   
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Also, my time is limited. I want to play whenever I want, whenever I can.
So I also belong to the majority of AI players.

I'm always pleased to new patches, improvements and additional features.

My request, so good the AI is, an AI can never be good enough.
So please do not forget in your pursuit of perfection to push the AI even further and further!

War in the East.
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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/28/2011 2:59:44 PM   
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Actually approx 130+ people have answered the poll. First I do hope that matrix has sold more WitE than that. Second, given the number of "hits" in many forums it is rather strange to see so few have answered to such simple questions.

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/28/2011 4:42:41 PM   
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Hi Joel,

My preference would be to play vs. the AI, but I actually only play WiTE PBEM because the Axis AI isn't really up to much and I like to play the Soviet side.

Perhaps a survey question "How do you wish you could play WiTE?" would give you a better sense of player's preferences as opposed to practices?

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/29/2011 2:03:53 AM   
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For me, the AI is good enough to play when there are no human players around.
Have my hands tied with two Grand Campaigns versus humans..... and I have a very understanding wife

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/29/2011 8:43:12 AM   
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Human vs human play takes CONSIDERABLY less time than an AI game. you can get away with 1-2 hours a day 3 times a week and youve lots of time to think about your next turn. waiting for the ai can really kill a day fast. make sure to use fow movement and the human games barrel by.

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/29/2011 8:49:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hermann

Human vs human play takes CONSIDERABLY less time than an AI game. you can get away with 1-2 hours a day 3 times a week and youve lots of time to think about your next turn. waiting for the ai can really kill a day fast. make sure to use fow movement and the human games barrel by.


Is this backwards or what?
The AI turn only last a few minutes for me.

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/29/2011 9:16:11 AM   
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seems strange to me too
AI turn will take about 4 minutes with the saves
for the moment 1 game against AI as germany
4 games PBEM from which 2 aborted (1 by me against PDH, the other by my soviet opponent)

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/29/2011 9:34:11 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Peever

As a long time lurker I'll come out of the shadows to say that I play the game against the AI exclusively.  For me gaming is a recreation that I don't want to have any obligations to.  I enjoy being able to sit down and play four or five turns then not touch the game for a week, or quit and restart a game without annoying another player or having to schedule my gaming. 

I also don't have the time to really master a single game so playing against the AI will be challenging enough for me.



Very well said. + 1

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/30/2011 8:44:42 AM   
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I play against Baelfin.
Whether he's human or a computer I do not know

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RE: How do you play WitE? - 7/30/2011 8:47:59 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PeeDeeAitch

I usually play solitaire against another person.


The question was about WiTE, not your private life

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