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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/26/2011 9:50:59 PM   
Keke


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Status: offline 		I tried to recruit prisoners, but it didn't happen. With error logging on there was multitude of error messages. I think I go back a turn and try it with the new update. That'll be tomorrow.

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/26/2011 9:58:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I will check once again, but the events for prisoners in FY are the same than in the official version...

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/26/2011 10:01:38 PM   
Keke


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Status: offline 		I don't really think it is a mod problem either. AGEOD support sucks hairy balls.

< Message edited by Keke -- 7/26/2011 10:02:26 PM >

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/26/2011 10:10:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Keke

I don't really think it is a mod problem either. AGEOD support sucks hairy balls.



BTW, I've for long placed the prisoner events at the end of the event files because they prohibit following events to fire when they bug. And I'm sure the bug is tied to the fact these events use the XXX tags for adding all prisoners whatever the faction thy belong in a general pool. So if necessary, I plan to modify the events, removing them as options to transform into events firing as soon the required prisoner numbers for one faction is reached: let's say 10 for Krainian prisoners, 15 for Poles, 25 for Greens ect. At least, they currently have any side effects on other events in FY

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/26/2011 10:47:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		To replace these broken prisoners events, here what I could do:

- automatic events as I've described in the last post
- options allowing players to attempt to provoke desertions in a faction , and gaining by this way conscripts... Fun, historical, useful and bug free

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/26/2011 11:05:03 PM   
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The most amazing point is this thread is the last to be active about RUS. Either the official version is just so much good players have no time to post commend on the official forum, either...

Yes, no activity in official forum at all. No strategy, no tactics, no anything :( This place seems the only place it is being discussed, and that is only from few folk. Oh well. guess they did well.

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/26/2011 11:12:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sad as well, because this game was really interesting. Really. So Clovis, have you burnt all your bridges and your boats? Tragic if so :(

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 5:54:32 AM   
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Sad as well, because this game was really interesting. Really. So Clovis, have you burnt all your bridges and your boats? Tragic if so :(


Tragic ?

No. You get 2 versions of RUS, and soon a better AACW AI. If I am always connected to offical teams, I will be stuck in the PON adventure. At second sight, It's better to work on games I may improve with a few weeks of work. Anything in PON takes months.

That's better

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 9:29:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		I guess because of broken "recruit prisoners" -event, I've had about five CTDs in the end of turn processing. Reloading the game allows to continue.

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 9:47:39 AM   
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I guess because of broken "recruit prisoners" -event, I've had about five CTDs in the end of turn processing. Reloading the game allows to continue.



The new FY system should please you. Tonight.

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 9:52:56 AM   
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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 10:02:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Clovis do you have/have read this book?

The White Armies of Russia; a chronicle of counter-revolution and Allied intervention, by G. Stewart

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 11:37:23 AM   
Chliperic


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Clovis do you have/have read this book?

The White Armies of Russia; a chronicle of counter-revolution and Allied intervention, by G. Stewart


No, buT i've pruchased it and I'm waiting the delivery

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 11:44:45 AM   
Nikel

 

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Status: offline 		Oh, what a pity. I could have sent you a copy

Send me a pm in AGEod forum if you are interested

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 12:07:17 PM   
Chliperic


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Oh, what a pity. I could have sent you a copy

Send me a pm in AGEod forum if you are interested



Thanks, but in some ways I'm old school, by example I prefer read physical books to pdf I just have more difficulties to read on a screen than on paper

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 12:10:08 PM   
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I prefer read physical books to pdf I just have more difficulties to read on a screen than on paper


Yes of course, that is right :)

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 2:39:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Nikel

Oh, what a pity. I could have sent you a copy

Send me a pm in AGEod forum if you are interested



Thanks, but in some ways I'm old school, by example I prefer read physical books to pdf I just have more difficulties to read on a screen than on paper

I agree - I hate reading pdfs on screen. Miss the old days of paper manuals and physical copies of games.

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 2:57:48 PM   
Chliperic


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Status: offline 		OK, a bit of details about the new Prisoners events for FY tonight:

- Prisoners events are replaced by events fired automatically when a minimal number of prisoners of the same faction is reached, giving conscripts ( 25 at best). 2 main benefices: no more CTDs,as the possible bug is tied with the XXX tag not used anymore and an automation of ther prisoner system, prisoners enrollment being largely practiced in the RCW even without general order from the political height.

- New option system: each faction may buy an option directed against another faction to provoke desertions. The targeted factions will lose some units, the tageting ones will get conscript points. The option will work best if the targeted faction has NM under 90, and less well above. With an NM of 100, the option will have 75% risks to fail.

Thse options will be usable several times, to the exception of the Red option against Ukraine. This option may be fired once and Red will get one to three brigade units, depending from the Ukrainina NM level.

The negative point is of course AGE engine can't really delimiter a geographical area for killing units by events or options; So removed units may be garrison in the remote rear... But even with this approximation, using an option to weaken an enemy in disarray should be fun.....

< Message edited by Chliperic -- 7/27/2011 3:01:37 PM >

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 3:58:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		i've achieved to write the events for AI use of these options

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 5:14:31 PM   
Nikel

 

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Status: offline 		While trying to mod a portrait of Syvory noticed that though apparently causes no problems, there is a doubled armies&fleet folder in your mod. I mean

"Graphics\Armies&Fleets\Armies&Fleets\Leaders Armies"


When should be

"Graphics\Armies&Fleets\Leaders Armies"

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 5:35:02 PM   
Chliperic


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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 5:37:17 PM   
Chliperic


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Status: offline 		I've found here what I consider to be a pretty good definition of a good AI

http://www.wargamer.com/forums/fb.ashx?m=558461

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 5:59:06 PM   
Chliperic


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Compatible with on going games to the exception of the old prisoners options. Just don't select them. New options should appear after one turn.

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 6:10:54 PM   
Nikel

 

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Status: offline 		Armies&Fleets\Armies&Fleets is still present.

And the .pdf should also be updated?

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 6:20:55 PM   
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Armies&Fleets\Armies&Fleets is still present.

And the .pdf should also be updated?


Yes, I know I'bve just added the Armies&Fleets\Leaders folder to be sure it will work. No time to check the right path for now so I've added both

The same for the .pdf: update as soon I find some time But I will.

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 6:25:34 PM   
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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 9:07:52 PM   
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< Message edited by Chliperic -- 7/27/2011 9:10:18 PM >

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 9:23:01 PM   
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It seems that Russians play only with illegal copies. Might explain game's low selling a bit.

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 9:24:02 PM   
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It seems that Russians play only with illegal copies. Might explain game's low selling a bit.


Yes, that's why I've deleted my post.

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RE: Rules: The Allied Intervention Level - 7/27/2011 9:44:49 PM   
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And thanks Clovis for updating the .pdf

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