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Warbirds collide at Duxford midair - 7/12/2011 10:56:54 PM   
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I read about this accident, fortunately both pilots were ok but P51 was lost. If I saw it right the pilot of the P51 did a good job of keeping control after losing what looks like his tail before he bails out. Video is in story link

http://www.eaa.org/news/2011/2011-07-11_duxfordMidair.asp
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RE: Warbirds collide at Duxford midair - 7/13/2011 12:14:45 AM   
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yes...he was good to keep it stable...thank god he's safe! However it's a pity to have lost another warbird

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RE: Warbirds collide at Duxford midair - 7/13/2011 1:27:36 AM   
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Incredible video footage. Not only says much about Davies' abilities but also much about the quality of the design of the Skyraider that landed with a significant piece of wing missing.

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RE: Warbirds collide at Duxford midair - 7/13/2011 1:35:44 AM   
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Fortunately both pilots are OK.  From the video the Skyraider appeared to be more badly damaged, but the P-51 must have had something critical taken out like the control cables to the tail.

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RE: Warbirds collide at Duxford midair - 7/13/2011 2:54:11 AM   
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From the video, it looks like a large part of the tail maybe elevator or rudder flies off just when they break to the left. I'd imagine that he lost part of the tail & then flutter set in & he realized he couldn't control it enough to land so he flew off in a direction so he could bail away from crowds. 

Well they changed the video - it now has an interview w/ the pilot as well as a better explanation of what happened. The part I see fly off is the wing from the Skyraider.

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RE: Warbirds collide at Duxford midair - 7/13/2011 3:49:23 AM   
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Wow. Impressive reaction time and footage.


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RE: Warbirds collide at Duxford midair - 7/13/2011 4:47:06 AM   
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What you see flying off is the wingtip of the Skyraider.  As far as I can tell, the P-51 doesn't shed any parts.

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RE: Warbirds collide at Duxford midair - 7/13/2011 7:08:10 AM   
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I was there the day before, so missed the "excitement". Glad the pilots are OK.

If anyone's interested I've got some of the non-crash plane pictures on the web here: Duxford airshow 2011 pics
(Relevant for this forum would be: P51s, P40s, a P38, B-17, Spitfires and a Corsair)

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RE: Warbirds collide at Duxford midair - 7/13/2011 5:12:06 PM   
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Yikes....this is part of why i'm too chicken to go up in a historical bird. Boeing field hosts events all the time, everything from historic old pre WWII trainers to the big B-17's and 24's that regularily visit. I know that every part has to be checked and maintained but still.......these planes are just so OLD......and flying puts so much stress on an airframe and machinary. If i'm not wanting to Bungie Jump in this lifetime i also don't want to experience parachuting. I've seen too many Warner Brothers cartoons involving the Coyote.


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RE: Warbirds collide at Duxford midair - 7/13/2011 9:12:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nikademus

Yikes....this is part of why i'm too chicken to go up in a historical bird. Boeing field hosts events all the time, everything from historic old pre WWII trainers to the big B-17's and 24's that regularily visit. I know that every part has to be checked and maintained but still.......these planes are just so OLD......and flying puts so much stress on an airframe and machinary. If i'm not wanting to Bungie Jump in this lifetime i also don't want to experience parachuting. I've seen too many Warner Brothers cartoons involving the Coyote.




From the looks of the footage it was pilot error, not age of plane. The Skyraider was too close to begin with.


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RE: Warbirds collide at Duxford midair - 7/14/2011 5:41:15 PM   
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true....but then there was that B-25 that went down recently as well.

Gravity always wins......eventually!

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RE: Warbirds collide at Duxford midair - 7/14/2011 8:41:02 PM   
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During the last three flights I had on B-17s or a B-24, no parachutes were offered or even talked about.


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ORIGINAL: Nikademus

Yikes....this is part of why i'm too chicken to go up in a historical bird. Boeing field hosts events all the time, everything from historic old pre WWII trainers to the big B-17's and 24's that regularily visit. I know that every part has to be checked and maintained but still.......these planes are just so OLD......and flying puts so much stress on an airframe and machinary. If i'm not wanting to Bungie Jump in this lifetime i also don't want to experience parachuting. I've seen too many Warner Brothers cartoons involving the Coyote.





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RE: Warbirds collide at Duxford midair - 7/15/2011 9:01:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mark VII

During the last three flights I had on B-17s or a B-24, no parachutes were offered or even talked about.




A serious question: Under an emergency situation would you know what to do with one, even if it were offered???

Much safer to sit tight and not distract the professionals from their job which is to get you down as gently as possible....




I have actually thought about this before as a while ago I was involved in a parachute drill without notice (or training). I can only imagine how it would have gone if it were for real.....


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RE: Warbirds collide at Duxford midair - 7/15/2011 7:55:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Reg


quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark VII

During the last three flights I had on B-17s or a B-24, no parachutes were offered or even talked about.




A serious question: Under an emergency situation would you know what to do with one, even if it were offered???

Much safer to sit tight and not distract the professionals from their job which is to get you down as gently as possible....




I have actually thought about this before as a while ago I was involved in a parachute drill without notice (or training). I can only imagine how it would have gone if it were for real.....



It can be a lot of "fun" even with training. Some of our instructors used to put a blind fold on you , then push and shove you , while you were trying to get into your chute to simulate "aircraft motion" of a dying airplane.

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