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What are Strategic Points? - 7/11/2011 1:53:17 PM   
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Status: online 		I just noticed on the intelligence screen that there is an entry for the 'Strategic Points' earned by each side. Does anybody out there know what these points represent and how they are earned?
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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/11/2011 2:00:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Stategic points are earned by strategic bombing of certain places - specifically the Japanese Home Islands, mainland United States (I don't think Hawaii or Alaska qualify), and Australia.

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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/11/2011 2:25:35 PM   
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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/11/2011 2:30:58 PM   
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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/11/2011 2:42:17 PM   
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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/11/2011 4:28:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sure, historically the Japanese bombed Australia over 100 times during the war, but this is not widely known, as it was kept secret until well after the war, in order to not scare civillans.  There is no reason you cannot repeat history, plus it is very hard to stop bombers at night in the game, if they fly above the flak.



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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/11/2011 4:30:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Beat me to it. Australia was bombed more than once during the war...Search Darwin for example and read up about it.



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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/11/2011 4:34:11 PM   
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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/11/2011 7:12:07 PM   
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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/11/2011 8:01:15 PM   
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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/11/2011 8:07:07 PM   
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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/11/2011 8:20:44 PM   
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Stategic points are earned by strategic bombing of certain places - specifically the Japanese Home Islands, mainland United States (I don't think Hawaii or Alaska qualify), and Australia.


Hawaii qualifies. I always change at least 1 squadron of Vals to hit the repair yards at PH one turn 1. If you get lucky you will damage a few of them - scoring easy points and slowing down repairs.

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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/11/2011 8:51:49 PM   
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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/11/2011 11:52:13 PM   
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Yes, we southerners are the epitome of politeness even as we break into the rebel yell and storm right into your backyard, breaking down your hedges, knocking over your grill, and scarfing your ice tea.


The way I heard it you Southrons were fighting to keep us Yankees out of your backyards, off of your hedges, and away from your BBQ.

Mmmmm . . . barbeque

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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/12/2011 2:16:34 PM   
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Yes, we southerners are the epitome of politeness even as we break into the rebel yell and storm right into your backyard, breaking down your hedges, knocking over your grill, and scarfing your ice tea.

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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/12/2011 2:48:09 PM   
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[The way I heard it you Southrons were fighting to keep us Yankees out of your backyards, off of your hedges, and away from your BBQ.

Mmmmm . . . barbeque


According to my high school friend Ricky Clark, Yankees were after our good-looking southern women (we actually say: "wimmen"). Before I left home to attend the University of Georgia, which is populated by the best looking young ladies you've ever seen, Ricky told me: "Don't touch their peaches, and don't let them touch your pears."

I'm not sure that was good advice, but it was memorable advice. That saying has stuck with me for 31 years now, though I did my best not to comply.

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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/12/2011 4:44:12 PM   
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Yes, we southerners are the epitome of politeness even as we break into the rebel yell and storm right into your backyard, breaking down your hedges, knocking over your grill, and scarfing your ice tea.

Won't that stain your scarves?

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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/12/2011 8:56:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: noguaranteeofsanity

Sure, historically the Japanese bombed Australia over 100 times during the war, but this is not widely known, as it was kept secret until well after the war, in order to not scare civillans.  There is no reason you cannot repeat history, plus it is very hard to stop bombers at night in the game, if they fly above the flak.




And then there was that unit abandoned at Rabaul.... Gamble wrote a book about that one too.....

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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/12/2011 11:50:57 PM   
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Yes, we southerners are the epitome of politeness even as we break into the rebel yell and storm right into your backyard, breaking down your hedges, knocking over your grill, and scarfing your ice tea.


Being born and raised in Louisiana, I laughed at the scarfing the ice tea bit.

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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/13/2011 9:32:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: noguaranteeofsanity

Sure, historically the Japanese bombed Australia over 100 times during the war, but this is not widely known, as it was kept secret until well after the war, in order to not scare civillans.


I hardly think that being on the front page of Australian Newspapers qualifies as "kept secret".

They didn't keep the bombing secret. They couldn't ... not even the first attack, the one on Darwin.

What the government *did* do was to keep secret exactly how and what sort of damage had been done ... even then, talking to my Dad when he was alive, he said it was common knowledge that the damage had been *bad* and *extensive* even allowing for the obvious exaggeration of the stories that were circulating.

Problem was, even as isolated as it was, Darwin and the other bombed towns had regular non-military links with the rest of Australia ... commercial transport, for a start, and all the government could do was to prevent the newspapers printing stories, not ordinary people passing them on.

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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/13/2011 2:17:02 PM   
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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/13/2011 3:21:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Stategic points are earned by strategic bombing of certain places - specifically the Japanese Home Islands, mainland United States (I don't think Hawaii or Alaska qualify), and Australia.

Hawaii certainly don't.

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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/13/2011 4:45:27 PM   
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Status: online 		Was it in the movie "Australia"that the film depicted the attack on Darwin (a recent release)? Knowing Hollywood, I doubt it was accurate, but seeing photos of the real thing, The Japanese certainly kicked the s#@t our of the town....

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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/13/2011 11:55:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Yes, we southerners are the epitome of politeness even as we break into the rebel yell and storm right into your backyard, breaking down your hedges, knocking over your grill, and scarfing your ice tea.



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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/14/2011 12:21:12 AM   
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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/14/2011 12:12:23 PM   
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Was it in the movie "Australia"that the film depicted the attack on Darwin (a recent release)? Knowing Hollywood, I doubt it was accurate, but seeing photos of the real thing, The Japanese certainly kicked the s#@t our of the town....


The consequences of the attack were, for Hollyworld History, reasonably believable. The equipment of the allied/US reinforcements you see on the road at some point ... laughable (*Halftracks*!!!) ... and the Japanese landing on the mission island ... never happened (though it was strafed) ... only one organised Japanese force is known to have landed on the Australian mainland or near islands during the war (and that was in 1944, a recon group of 10 Japs and 15 Timorese out of Timor), though some sailors from sunk vessels may have did.

See ...

http://www.ozatwar.com/japsland/land09.htm

... for a start.

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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/14/2011 2:15:29 PM   
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Wow, I never knew Australia was bombed.


Then you are going to be very surprised by the following figures which list location (state/territory), number of air raids.

Darwin (NT) 64
Horn Island (QLD) 9
Brocks Creek (NT) 8
Broome (WA) 4
Milimgimbi (NT) 3
Point Stuart (NT) 3
Townsville (QLD) 3
Exmouth Gulf (WA) 3
Wyndham (WA) 2
Port Hedland (WA) 2
Fenton (NT) 2
Wessel Islands (NT) 1
Katherine (NT) 1
Bathurst Island (NT) 1
Port Patterson (NT) 1
Drysdale (WA) 1
Derby (WA) 1
Onslow (WA) 1
Port Gregory (WA) 1
Mossman (QLD) 1
Cairns (QLD) 1

plus both Sydney (NSW) and Newcastle (NSW) were shelled by submarines

and recon flights were flown over Sydney (NSW), Melbourne (VIC) and Hobart (TAS)

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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/14/2011 2:40:14 PM   
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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/14/2011 5:04:45 PM   
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Stategic points are earned by strategic bombing of certain places - specifically the Japanese Home Islands, mainland United States (I don't think Hawaii or Alaska qualify), and Australia.


Hawaii qualifies. I always change at least 1 squadron of Vals to hit the repair yards at PH one turn 1. If you get lucky you will damage a few of them - scoring easy points and slowing down repairs.

Xargun



It's worth it just to damage the repair yards and industry at PH, even if you didn't get any points for it.

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RE: What are Strategic Points? - 7/17/2011 7:15:25 AM   
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Wow Alfred... What is your source on those data????


Data from,

Peter Stanley, Invading Australia:Japan and the Battle for Australia, 1942 (Camberwell VIC, Penguin Group, 2008), page 166 (map)

Stanley is a leading military historian. He was Principal Historian at the Australian War Memorial for 27 years. Since 2007 he has been the Head of the Centre for Historical Research at the National Museum of Australia.

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