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Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/24/2011 2:00:12 PM   
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I wish I knew how to create a poll, but I don't. So, just reply instead.

What are you playing and why?

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Myself - Force60 (old habits are hard to break)

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/24/2011 2:17:57 PM   
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40:40
It seem less giving orders to the time of a metronome and more like a variable length bound where orders are changed because the situation changes.

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/24/2011 2:22:06 PM   
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40:40 but it's not like I do something every reaction phase. 60 seconds seems so long now.

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/24/2011 2:28:00 PM   
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40:40.
As junk2drive said: 60 seconds seems like a long time now after experiencing 40:40.

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/24/2011 2:36:43 PM   
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He he he ... I am going to turn out to be the one player who they added this option for! Well, thanks, anyway!

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/24/2011 2:36:48 PM   
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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/24/2011 2:41:30 PM   
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I think it is fine if people new to the system play at 60 but hope that they will someday give the 40:40 enough play to learn the nuances and what you can do or not do during the reaction phase. It is different and foreign to most people but it should be a learning experience just like the UI and rules of the game.

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/24/2011 2:43:18 PM   
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40:40 because it feels right to me with the platoon orders system.

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/24/2011 2:44:53 PM   
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40:40, in my opinion the best compromise.

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/24/2011 2:49:46 PM   
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40:40 The reaction time break has save me quite a few times already.

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/24/2011 3:01:18 PM   
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I use force 60. I find the 40 40 cycle interrupts the flow of the game for me. The very good thing is that we have choice. The more choice the better. I will probably try the 40 40 sequence again. perhaps I will find it different.


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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/24/2011 3:17:39 PM   
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I actually hated 40:40 when I first came across it and detested the reaction phase. But once I got to grips with it and saw it in play, I couldn't go back to 60 sec turns.

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/24/2011 3:18:06 PM   
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40:40 for me. I've played the Force 60 a few times mainly for testing. The 40:40 just feels right to me.

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/24/2011 3:19:59 PM   
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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/24/2011 4:05:51 PM   
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40:0 random battles. I like 40 second turns without reaction phase myself and that's all I'll play now.

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/24/2011 4:57:22 PM   
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The coolest thing with PCO is that we all get to choose the mode that we most like

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/24/2011 5:46:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

I actually hated 40:40 when I first came across it and detested the reaction phase. But once I got to grips with it and saw it in play, I couldn't go back to 60 sec turns.

Same here.

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/24/2011 6:42:00 PM   
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40:40 here.

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/24/2011 10:37:21 PM   
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40:40.

I still have a hard time adjusting to it. It's hard trying to get up to speed on a game that is on it's 3rd update and not knowing the correct keys or orders to perform. There are lots of unknowns for me  - still
I just haven't found the place where I feel I am "in the game and fighting with my troops". I still feel very detached.

But I am still plugging away. It's all me and not the game.


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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/25/2011 2:06:22 AM   
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Poll results ... so what! I don't care if you are all playing 40:40, I am going to continue with Force:60.

Hmm ... I wonder why the developers put it in given that no one is using it? Was it Bil Hardenberger (beta tester)? I remember he didn't like the Reaction Phase and was fairly vocal for a while. He convinced me to sign up as a beta as well, but I never contributed anything ... well, at least, I got my Force:60. :)

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/25/2011 2:12:17 AM   
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The force 60 was a fairly recent addition. Mad Russian campaigned for 60 second turns more than anyone. Once he got them, he didn't like them.

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/25/2011 3:03:31 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

I actually hated 40:40 when I first came across it and detested the reaction phase. But once I got to grips with it and saw it in play, I couldn't go back to 60 sec turns.



I HATED the 40:40 sequence and simply played it as an 80 second turn. Which I still do for the most part.

BUT then, low and behold, I'm in trouble and I need to do something about it. Not a major overhaul, just something minor like:

WITHDRAW!!! THERE ARE GERMAN TANKS EVERYWHERE!


You know, minor stuff.

Now, I still play my 80 second turns but I use the reaction phase to get myself out of trouble.

So Stridor gave me back my 60 second turns like I asked him to. He even did me better than that, he added a whole different set of sequencing choices for PCO.

There are 5 different sequences and I've made battles for all five. I still prefer the 40:40 to be played as an 80 second turn and when I need it I know I can get myself out of trouble if things get too bad.

Good Hunting.

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/25/2011 3:07:48 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Richie61

40:40.

I still have a hard time adjusting to it. It's hard trying to get up to speed on a game that is on it's 3rd update and not knowing the correct keys or orders to perform. There are lots of unknowns for me  - still
I just haven't found the place where I feel I am "in the game and fighting with my troops". I still feel very detached.

But I am still plugging away. It's all me and not the game.



Look at Contact at Lipki. All the different time sequences are represented in that scenario. Play around with them. See which ones you might like better. If there is a particular sequence that you guys like that isn't 40:40 which almost all the scenarios are designed as or the 60:0 which you can make happen by simply selecting the "Force 60 Second" option we could add those to the upcoming update, or one of the expansions.

Good Hunting.

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/25/2011 3:58:47 AM   
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I use the 60 second turn.

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/25/2011 4:02:54 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mad Russian


quote:

ORIGINAL: Richie61

40:40.

I still have a hard time adjusting to it. It's hard trying to get up to speed on a game that is on it's 3rd update and not knowing the correct keys or orders to perform. There are lots of unknowns for me  - still
I just haven't found the place where I feel I am "in the game and fighting with my troops". I still feel very detached.

But I am still plugging away. It's all me and not the game.



Look at Contact at Lipki. All the different time sequences are represented in that scenario. Play around with them. See which ones you might like better. If there is a particular sequence that you guys like that isn't 40:40 which almost all the scenarios are designed as or the 60:0 which you can make happen by simply selecting the "Force 60 Second" option we could add those to the upcoming update, or one of the expansions.

Good Hunting.

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I will try that one! Thanks!
The lack of CM "way points" to fine tune your forces is a hard habit to kick



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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/25/2011 4:10:26 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Richie61

The lack of CM "way points" to fine tune your forces is a hard habit to kick




PCO has waypoints hold down the control key while issuing orders. You can give 3 waypoints to PCO movement orders.

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/25/2011 7:49:10 AM   
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I play 60 mainly cause i'm new to PCO and its matches my CM thinking of tac combat.

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/27/2011 2:00:01 PM   
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I think the preference is muddled between two different things, one being the concept of a reaction phase itself, and the other as people just prefer shorter or longer intervals between turns. example --

Who that uses 60 would switch to reaction phase mechanics if it had 30/30?

etc.

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/28/2011 3:34:20 AM   
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I like the 40:40 now.  But I still want the reaction phase developed so that certain units can still do 'extra' functions.

As a case in point...i would like certain units to fire smoke during Reaction Phase. 

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RE: Poll: Force60 or 40:40? - 5/28/2011 3:38:36 AM   
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You should add that to the wish list thread.

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