If the German player only is willing to play the game for a decisive victory and accepts no other possible result, then he is wasting his and his opponent's time. And this unfortunately is pretty much the run of the mill German player.
My statement was not for a "quick victory". In that post, I even mentioned delaying the bounce back of the Red Army.
I think the Germans try to do different things at different times over the course of the campaign.
In 1941, they try to seize as much territory as possible, destroy as much industry as possible and also cause as many casualties as possible to the Red army in order to lessen the Red army counter offensive during the winter. Of particular interest is to capture as many motorize/tank units as possible to deny trucks to the Russians later.
In 1942, the Germans should be trying to destroy as many units as possible in order to make the Russians choose between either assembling infantry/tank corps or produce new units to replace losses. When the map is getting populated with a lot of corps, it is a sign the Germans are starting to lose it. Knocking out additional industry would be nice, but most likely can't be counted on since the Russians have had all winter to rail out anything even close to being in danger.
Does this sound like someone who is in "quick win mode only" or is it just a combination of strategy and common sense to help the Germans in their campaign against the Russians?
My point about the "umm.. why are we invading?" statement is in game terms, the Germans don't really gain anything from invading in this game. There are no targets beyond Leningrad that offer any tangible benefit to the Germans for taking it. IMO, the game would be far better for both sides by having the Russians take some penalty for losing Moscow. Give the Germans a big reason to try for it. The game would also be better if the Russians could actually be hurt production wise by the Germans knocking out industry. Right now, outside of Leningrad, the Russians could care less where the Germans go as long as they have time to get their industry out.
For the record, I am not a fan boy of either side. I do play both sides and enjoy playing both sides and to me it is important for the game to be fun for both sides.
My apology to Tarhunnas for the hi-jack.. perhaps we can discuss this some place else.
< Message edited by Klydon -- 5/29/2011 8:24:07 PM >