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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 10/16/2011 5:07:09 PM   
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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 10/16/2011 5:24:00 PM   
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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 10/16/2011 5:27:02 PM   
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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 10/16/2011 5:35:43 PM   
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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 11/14/2011 2:38:09 PM   
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More destruction of Japanese vessls. Damaged Shokaku and Nagato were sunk after being flushed out of Beazelbob by a USN port attack, they fled South only to find another carrier cgroup cutting off escape to Truk. They turn North and tried to make Palau again but were caught. I had a bumch of ships at Truk. I tried to move Yamato to the NE but the move was anticipated and she was destroyed over two days, first by carrier attacks and then in a surface engagement with two US BB's. Zuikaku also tried to disperse but ran into the two US BB's at night.

A small surface group tried to raid US ships disembarking at Tinian but was caught in the open and sunk by planes from Guam and the CVE's. A second cruiser and her escort of two DD's were snk near Iwo by a group of four USN DD's at night (US torpedoes work in 1944).

Chicken has captured Guam and eliminated the garrison after I foolishly counterattacked on day 2 of his landing, thereby greatly easing the capture. He has also captured Tinian but has not destroyed the former garrison.

He has just started bombardments and port attacks on Saipan, which has proved the most difficult nut to crack in the mirror game because of the naval defense guns.

The IJN has 3 or 4 seviceable CA and 4-5 DD's, plus a moderately damaged Musashi (at Truk) plus Zuiho, which is trolling for targets East of Wake and 3 more damaged CA's.

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 11/14/2011 3:24:24 PM   
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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 11/14/2011 3:49:14 PM   
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Status: online 		The USN game has also reached July 25. After a week of daily assaults which started at 1:2 and finally reached 2:1, Saipan has fallen, though the big garrison still needs to be eliminated. The point swing for Saipan is nearly equal to Guam and Tinian combined. Daily assaults continue on Guam where the ratio has reached 1:1 and casulaties are trending in the Allied favor. With adequate supply, I am fairly confident Guam will fall. Chicken tried to hide a large group of empty transports and support vessels north of New Guinea but they were spotted and sunk by naval gunfire from 3 DD's. 2 CV's have been finishing off cripples at Palau, including, finally, Zuikaku. I don't know how many times that damn thing has been reported sunk. I suspect Yamato is still afloat but cant find her.

Full court press at Guam today with carrier bombers and even USN Corsairs on ground attack. The armor for the Tinian invasion is embarked and I will embark the combat engineers tomorrow. I used both 77th ID and 111 RCT at Guam instead of Tinian so now I am short infantry for Tinian. I did not have enough free transports to get all of 3rd Marine Div (100% prepped for Tinian) in one lift from Pearl, so I picked up about a regiment-worth. I will have to land with one regiment of 3rd Marine, plus the combat engineers and armor and try to get the rest of 3rd Marine to the battle before the game ends. Also at Pearl is 87th ID, which is 70% prepped for Saipan. Probably, i will throw them at Tinian too if I can get the transports there in time.

Right now, I am slightly ahead on net points. If I turn Guam and Tinian and Chicken can take Saipan, then it will be down to naval and air losses.




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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 12/15/2011 11:16:16 PM   
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Status: online 		We are up to July 28 in both games. We are at a snails pace because Chicken apparently is in the dog house for wasting his life on WITP.

IJN Game: Chicken owns Guam, Tinian and Rota and has started suppression raids against Saipan. Just this turn he raided Trunk and caught Musashi and 2 CA's fixing up dents. Even so, his raids were disjointed and the Jap CAP downed 50 Allied planes to the loss of a similar number of Zeroes. Musashi is the last BB afloat but there perhaps 6 CA's still about. Zuiho still lives and is being pursued by what I suspect are two carrier TF's W and SE of Wake.


USN Game: I think I finally sunk Zuikaku after at least 30 bomb hits in port. Still not sure if Yamato is around somewhere. It has been hit badly but not confirmed sunk. The big news is Saipan fell. This is a huge point swing and has put me in a solid lead. I am going to try a landing on Tinian before game end. I am sending in some armor and engineers once day ahead of about half a regiment of Marine 2nd Div which is sprinting from Pearl. Tinian is getting pounded by carrier planes. Guam is low on supply and so is Pagan. Saipan has 37,000 tons but I can't move it because the port is 100% destroyed. I sent in some B-24's to operate from Saipan today.



My capture of Tinian before game end is iffy but so is Chicken's opportunity to capture Saipan.

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 12/20/2011 2:27:07 PM   
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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 12/20/2011 8:02:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gridley380

Is this duel still ongoing? I want to know who wins!


Interesting that you mention that because I just got the 7-29 turns last night after an epic journey by desert tortoise.


IJN game: Zuiho was pursued by what I suspect were two carrier groups closing from the East and West and met her end doing figure of eights at 24 kts NE of Wake. Some of her makeshift air group got off to Wake but she was not able to mount a counterstrike at the unseen enemy. The E-boat with her was also sunk. Musashi lives another day with fighter cover over her at Truk. 3 crusiers made a dash from trunk to the South, SE and W and all 3 still live.
A jop sub torpedoed a CVE West of Saipan (this is the first big target hit by one of my subs even though I had several carriers and a BB knocked out of commission by Jap subs in the other game).

The landing at Saipan has started. No serious damage from my shore guns and no mine hits. Bahhh.

USN Game: Elimination of the former garrisons at Saipan and Guam goes well. The landing at Tinian goes in today. Most of the carriers are out of sorties and there is not enough supply at Pagan or Guam to resupply. Saipan has enough supply but the port is still 100% damaged. I am landing some engineers there by amphibious landing and have flown in an air HQ so at least there are soem corsairs operating there on ground attack over Tinian. P-47's and B-25's are flying from Pagan and Anataham. I sent back all the B-24's to Roi Namur as there is not enough supply to support them.

Main body of 2nd Marine Div about 4 days out from Tinian.

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 7/10/2012 1:11:12 AM   
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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 7/10/2012 4:53:22 PM   
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Status: online 		Chickenboy sent word that he had conceded the match based on a declining chance to close the net point deficit.

We both had large point advantages as Allied player but this was a mirror game, of course, so it it the net points that matter.

As Allied, I went for Pagan first, without changing the prep target. The Pagan garrison is small, however, so even with the disruption, the attack succeeded. Pagan was useful as a base for LBA.

I made the mistake of attacking Truk with carrier air. A JJ counterattack got through and put one of my carriers out of commission and mos tof the air complement had to ditch.

The second landing was at Guam, which went well but it took a week of attacks to defeat the garrison. The third landing was Saipan which has evil naval guns which I never completely suppressed. I took to landing supplies by LCT and just taking the casualties in lost LCT's. Saipan did fall, which was the game winner.

My Tinian attack was 2 d out when we called it.



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With me as IJN..thing went poorly at the start. Zuiho got torpedoed by a sub. Chickenboy landed first at Guam. His D-Day force was small so I ortdered a shock counterattack on Day 2 but, by then, he had a large force ashore and my attack was crushed ..losing 1/3 killed. The garrison did not last long after that. He then went for Tinian, which he captured quickly. The Saipan garrison was the strongest and well protected with naval guns, holding out till the end. I had flown in some troops from Pagan to bolster the garrison and the forts were up to level 4 or 5 as I recall.

My only real naval success as IJN was a raid by 3 DD's at night on Guam. The swept past a CA and sunk 3 or 4 CVE's with their planes.

I tried an IJN surface raid East of the Marianas but was caught by LBA and had to abort with nothing to show for it.

Neither one of us had any success with IJN carriers or BB's. They were basically point liabilities and I spent most if the time trying to hide them from USN carriers.

I would say, if the Allied player knows how to make proper landings and uses mutually supporting carriers at the start, he will win by a big margin in this scenario.

Fun contest, played well by Chickenboy! Salute!

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 7/10/2012 5:11:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Congrats to both of you for seeing your mirrior games through. 

This tournament started so long ago that the director has lost all track of where we are and where we go next.  Or perhaps this was the championship match?  Anyhow, I do have a prize in mind for the ultimate winner, so let me know if that's you, Cap.  If you need another opponent, I'll have to go back and dig through the archives to find out who's left.

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