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AE Tourney II/Chickenboy PROHIBITED!!!/If you are Penel... - 4/30/2011 1:36:57 PM   
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After an improbable string of lucky die rolls, it has come down to Chickenboy and me for the first AE Tourney Deathmatch Finals. It will be the Marinara Scenario with mirror games. Highest total points wins.

The USN starts with 7 CV's and 8 CVL's plus a bunch of CVE's plus 4 or 5 fast BB's and 4 prewar BB's. The IJN also has serious carrier firepower though the pilots are not all prewar hotshots. The IJN also has a "shedload" (as Admiral Lord Sprior would say) of BB's. There could be many squaws crying in teepee over this one. The Marinaras (Saipan, Tinian, Guam and another I cant remember) have some serious point values and one of them, Tinian, is the garlic capital of the Central Pacific.

My strategy is in a nascent stage right now, but my major emphasis will be to score more points. I'm hoping for the details to present themselves as I go.

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Toruney vs Chickenhu... - 4/30/2011 3:05:28 PM   
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Good luck, Cap. PoultryLad is a Yankee, so you need to thrash him good.

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Toruney vs Chickenhu... - 4/30/2011 3:06:24 PM   
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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Toruney vs Chickenhu... - 4/30/2011 3:40:04 PM   
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Casey Kasem?

OK, Cloacaboy, you asked for it. I extend my hand according to Marquess of Queensberry rules and I get back a handfull of liquified urea and bacteria.

Imagine his chagrin when he gets his neck wrung by a guy who never read the rule book.

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Toruney vs Chickenhu... - 4/30/2011 5:27:54 PM   
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Casey Kasem?

Imagine his chagrin when he gets his neck wrung by a guy who never read the rule book.


"Chickenboy, you magnificent bastard," he shouts, "I didn't read your book!"

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Toruney vs Chickenhu... - 4/30/2011 6:43:22 PM   
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You are a laydown misere to win this one, Cap Mandrake. With all the experience your bombers have accrued dropping bombs on schools of anchovies, your marinara sauce is going to be pungent at 40 nm.

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Toruney vs Chickenhu... - 5/1/2011 4:44:44 PM   
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Wouldn't that be a recipe for Ceasar's dressing?

Here are the Jap defences at the start. Saipan is the big prize in points but it has nearly 1000 AV with a level 5 fort and CD guns.

The US has 1480 AV (6 USMC Regt. and a US Army Div, plus armor) fully prepped for Saipan. A 1.5 ratio in amphibious attack with level 5 forts? Huh?

There are 600 prepped for Guam and 280 for Tinian. No way 3 regiments is enough for Guam either.

What is needed is either to transfer the Guam troops to the Saipan attack or to degrade Jap defences before the landing. I favor the latter. My plan is to use the Guam and Tinian troops to attack Pagan, seize the arifield and bring the B-24's and P-47's and Corsairs into play. The Jap carriers and BB's show up on turn 17, so the USN will have to be on station near Pagan or the airfield would get crushed. By that time I hope to seize Pagan, repair the airfield and perhaps increase to level 6, crush Saipan airfield and fight the Jap carriers within range of SBD's and TBF's at Pagan.




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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Toruney vs Chickenhu... - 5/1/2011 6:49:25 PM   
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Gonna be reading both sides (of both sides) of this one, so not many comments.  Good luck, Cap! 

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Toruney vs Chickenhu... - 5/1/2011 11:44:38 PM   
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Gonna be reading both sides (of both sides) of this one, so not many comments. Good luck, Cap!

Is Chickenboy doing the Japanese perspective? That would be interesting.


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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Toruney vs Chickenhu... - 5/2/2011 12:01:25 AM   
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I can't believe how many ships the USN has for this operation:

4 Fast carrier groups with 3-4 CV/CVL each (total 15) and 1-2 fast BB's per taffy. Each fast carrier taffy has > 7000 AA points. The carrier fighter squadrons are nominally 40 F6F's per squadron (I converted two to Corsairs).

11 CVE's now configured as:

........... a carrier aricraft replenishment taffy (2 x CVE's)
........... a ferry (not fairy) TF (5 CVE's) to ferry non-carrier trained USMC Corsair squadrons, P-47's and Marine SBD squadrons to Pagan when the airfield is captured. This allows a CAP on day 1 instead of trying to glue the wings back on as they are unloaded from transports. The B-24's can fly in from Eniwetok.
........... a security taffy (4 CVE's) bearing F6F's and TBF's to guard the chickens.

A bombardment group of 4 pre-war BB's

DE and DD's coming out the wazoo

3 fast fuel oil replensihment taffys with 6 fleet oilers each.

What is lacking are ground troops.

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Toruney vs Chickenhu... - 5/2/2011 2:20:52 AM   
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What was the line from "A Bridge Too Far" as the German general stands on the balcony watching wave after wave of DC-3's roll overhead? "Oh, to have such power, even just for one day" or words to that effect. Don't mess with the Big Green Machine is a lesson worth learning.

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Toruney vs Chickenhu... - 5/2/2011 2:57:36 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Is Chickenboy doing the Japanese perspective? That would be interesting.



He is but it's all hen scratching.

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 5/2/2011 2:59:45 AM   
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quote:

it has come down to Chickenboy and me for the first AE Tourney Deathmatch Finals.


Ahem! That would be the second AE Tourney Deathmatch Finals.

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 5/2/2011 2:24:01 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

it has come down to Chickenboy and me for the first AE Tourney Deathmatch Finals.


Ahem! That would be the second AE Tourney Deathmatch Finals.



Oh bloody Hell. It appears I have been misinformed. That would make this, at best, the semis. I'm guessing you may know the winner of the First Tourney?

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 5/3/2011 4:58:10 AM   
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Oh bloody Hell. It appears I have been misinformed. That would make this, at best, the semis. I'm guessing you may know the winner of the First Tourney?


Yes, but sadly I am much better acquainted with the runner-up

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 5/3/2011 6:00:07 PM   
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Oh bloody Hell. It appears I have been misinformed. That would make this, at best, the semis. I'm guessing you may know the winner of the First Tourney?


Yes, but sadly I am much better acquainted with the runner-up


You let your wife beat you? Oh, man, that hurts.

Perhaps you threw the match to preserve harmony?

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 5/3/2011 7:06:24 PM   
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Day 2:

The fast carrier groups are away. 8 CV/CVL to beat up on the airfields in the Marianas. 7 CV/CVL's to intercept movement of potential ground troop reinforcement via sea from Truk or Palau. Before the Jap carriers arrive, the carrier groups will unite. Nearly 1000 AV worth of infantry and armor plus engineers and 250+ of air support and 4th Marine Air wing HQ have left for Pagan. F4F and Avenger squadrons that vacated soem of the CVE's to allow transport of Corsairs and P-47's and SBD's have moved to Laysan and Midway. Even now there isn't enough dock space at Pearl for all the AO's.

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 5/7/2011 12:55:50 PM   
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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 5/7/2011 11:58:36 PM   
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The Northern fast carrier group is just East of Midway. The escort carriers are about 160-200 mi back with the amphibious group.

The Southern fast carrier strike group is 300 E of Eniweetok.


We have picked up a bug. On the intel report it shows 36 ops losses for Corsairs even though there weren't any. I think this might have something to do with the Marine Corsairs on the CVE's. They are not carrier trained and therefore were hoisted aboard by crane and are merely being transported.

Loading of oilers at Pearl goes slowly.

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 5/8/2011 12:23:08 AM   
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The current plan is for the Northern group to suppress Saipan and Tinian airfields and for the Southern group to raid near Truk then move NW to cover a landing by fast tranport TF on Ulithi (if it remains unccupied) and to suppress the airfield at Guam.

The bombardment group of 4 prewar BB's will be used for preinvasion bombardment at Pagan or to finish off Saipan airfield. I would rather not damage Pagan airfieild, if possible. If pagan is captured, I have 2 squadrons of Marine Corsairs, two Marine SBD squadrons and one squadron of P-47's aboard CVE ready to fly off to Pagan and then be replaced by F4F's and Avengers from Midway.

The force for Saipan is not embarking yet. Pearl Harbor is still clogged with oilers.


Question: What do I do with these LCI(G)'s? I presume they are for shore bombardment?

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 5/8/2011 12:36:41 AM   
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I think they go in amphibious TF and they help suppress the defensive fire.

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 5/9/2011 6:49:43 PM   
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***********************May 28, 1944**********************

The Southern Carrier Strike Group has nearly reached Eniwetok for refueling. The area waters are infested with at least 3 Jab subs. I reconned Wake just to make sure Chicknboy doesn't sneak some bombers in there. There are no aviation support troops at Wake and not much supply either so it does not seem like a productive move. Even so, 3 squadrons of B-24's from the Marshalls will hit Wake today. It appears he did not try to move any shipping from Truk so I will proably bypass Truk and escort the fast transport taffy to Uhiliti.

A US sub put a torp into the biggest ship the Japs have so far, CL Oi...oy vey! She may or may not have sunk. This is my best estimate. I think Chicknboy is trying to get in some AK's from Pelileu with troops or supplies (there is a whole Jap division at Pelileu that is probably not needed to defend the atoll). The Western approaches to the Marianas are swarming with US subs.

The Northern Carrier Strike Group is 2 days out from Saipan.

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 5/12/2011 7:08:27 PM   
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*********************May 30, 1944***********************

There are bombers spotted at Guam. These are probably Judys but could be Bettys so I ordered the Northern Carrier Group to slow down to cover the 21kt BB bombardment group. The BB's will likely hit either Guam or Saipan (or both) depending on which has the larger air complement.

The Southern Strike Group flew sweep missions over Truk but the LYB's refused to come out and play. The sole bomber group at Truk has been moved so I am going to bypass Truk airfield and move NW, to bring all 4 fast carrier taffys to bear in the Marianas.

I expect to send the 21kt BB's to Eniwetok to rearm.....anyone know if this will work?

Also, does anyone know here the Jap carriers show up in Marianas scenario? I supppose I could check the Editor but I would need to switch comps.

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 5/12/2011 7:23:40 PM   
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Aren't you playing both sides? Can't you just check your mirror game as Japan to find out what shows up when and where?

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 5/12/2011 8:01:24 PM   
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Aren't you playing both sides? Can't you just check your mirror game as Japan to find out what shows up when and where?


Yes, the carriers and BB's arrive already formed into task forces on turn 17....but it doesnt say WHERE they arrive.

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 5/12/2011 8:10:12 PM   
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Oh, I see. Bullwinkle is the only person I know who has played the Mariannas Scenario. You might shoot him a PM.

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Too much garlic? - 5/14/2011 4:13:46 PM   
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The curtain is almost up. The amphibious group is 3 days out from Pagan. Time to break something. I decided to hit both Guam and Tinian airfields simultaneously. Saipan is under a heavy thunderstorm and appears to have no bombers. I calculated that the prewar BB's will be able to rearm at Eniwetok but not the big boys, I therefore decided to preserve the ammo on the fast BB's. The prewar BB's could not reach Tinian or Saipan by daybreak so they will stay with the Northern Strike group and attack the airfield with the greatest need on June 1 (probably Saipan).

In the mirror game a massive Allied Death Star crushed Truk. Losses were about 18 Zeroes to 13 Allied (mostly bombers losses from flak). Unfortunately, about 1100 wee Jap dobbers are aboard a 10 kt AK halfway between Truk and Guam. Oops.




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RE: Too much garlic? - 5/14/2011 7:10:21 PM   
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Wow..that was remarkably successful. Naturally, not everything goes according to plan, but overall, things are looking good. The two strike groups failed to unite in one hex (they ended up one hex apart) so the strike packages against Guam weren't well coordinated but it didn't matter as there was no CAP at either Tinian or Guam. There was heavy rain over Tinian but the raids were still quite effective there. Tinian shows 63% runway damage. Guam recons in the high 40's runway damage. 30 aircraft were destroyed on the ground, including some Bettys at Guam.

Chicken seems to have concentrated aircraft at Guam...110 fighters and 60 bombers. I'm not sure I believe this but Guam is going to get more attention. I tasked a 3 BB bombardment force to hit Guam in the morning, along with a sweep by USN Corsairs and all the strike aircraft from 4 CV's and 4 CVL's. He has apparently denuded Saipan of aircraft (perhaps anticipating a bombardment/landing there). Saipan will get the attention of 1 BB in a daylight bombardment.

The amphibious group made good progress so they will steam in at full speed and try for a landing after daybreak on the 2nd. They will be covered by 3 CV's, 4 CVL's and 4 CVE's standing off one hex. About 2/3 of the strike aircraft off Pagan will attack Jap ground concentrations and 1/3 the port to try to get supply hits. Recon is still poor at Pagan. I havent visited with the dedicated recon aircraft from Eniwetok in several days. There are aircraft at Pagan but there is no air HQ so there won't be any Bettys or torpedo bombers. I am trying to save the runway so there will be no attack on the field...just a Corsair sweep.




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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 5/15/2011 3:09:01 PM   
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********************D Day, June 1/2, 1942*************

On balance a good day. The landings went very well. A couple of platoons on a USN Port Coy. arrived at Pagan before dawn. About half of them sprained their ankles or foolishly ate some bad shellfish but the rest were OK. The main amphibious group arrived late in the day but they disembarked with little difficulty. About 2/3 of the troops are ashore already in good order but the infantry units have about 40% fatigue from the long trip (and playing craps and a Parchisi marathon on board the night before). Hundreds of sorties were flown by TBF's and dive bombers against the troops on Pagan with only moderate success.

Chicken had moved Judys to Iwo Jima and they and some Nells (also from Iwo) attacked the carriers standing off Pagan with a large fighter escort from both Pagan and Iwo. The Judy attack had 55 Zeroes in escort. They were met eventually with met 180+ F6F's and F4F's. It was a "Marianas Turkey Shoot". Not one bomber even made it to the pickett screen. The Nells came in later with about 35 Zeroes and were slaughtered too. Overall, about 88 Jap planes were lost to 2-3 operational losses for the USN. The USN Corsairs with the northern carriers did not particiapte as they were sweeping over Pagan fruitlessly.

In the South, the airfield raids on Guam went well, driving runway damage up to 80% but Chicken had evacuated the field so only two planes were destroyed on the ground. The small surface group sent to Guam suffered two mine hits on DD's (which will survive) and encountered 3 annoying "groups" of patrol boats in singlets and couplets as well as a nest of fleet subs and minisubs. In the event, the CO of the bombardment group for Guam called off the attack or they stopped for cucumber sandwiches or something...even though they had only 160 miles to target at the start of the night.

At Saipan, the ASW groups and surface groups got distracted by Jap subs on the run in so the bombardment groups arrived first and engaged in a BB vs PB duel at 30,000 yds in daylight, again failing to bombard it's target. Still, it might have been worse as the BB (New Mexico I think) was hit by a dud torpedo from an I boat on the way in.

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RE: Marinara Sauce Recipe Ideas/AE Tourney vs Cloacaboy - 5/16/2011 12:46:58 PM   
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(somehow, this AAR is a couple of days behind your opponent's AAR)

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