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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 4/22/2012 11:32:00 PM   
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Didn't the great Christopher Lee play a part in "Cockleshell Heroes"?
Somewhere I read he was actually one of the Commandoes in the raid.
Thought that was worth a mention.
For an excellent review of PH the song in "Team America" takes the cake.

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 4/22/2012 11:48:04 PM   
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For an excellent review of PH the song in "Team America" takes the cake.
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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 4/24/2012 1:26:34 AM   
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My favs are in no particular order are.

A Bridge too far.
The Longest Day
The Great Raid
Bas Boot
Stalingrad
Kelly's Heroes (it was just so silly)
1941 (as per above)
Downfall
Black Book
Memphis Belle
Dieppe (Canadian content, and it also shows the war planning and the politics behind the operation)

Red Tails was horrible, almost as bad as the movie that shall not be named...

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 7/9/2013 8:25:54 PM   
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so I picked up a DVD of 20 war movies for five dollars. "Combat Movie Classics War Collection"

Which one would you watch first?

Casablanca Express
Waterfront
Cold War Killers
A Yank In Libya
Black Brigade
They Raid By Night
Hitler's SS: Portrait of Evil
Eagles Attack At Dawn
Commandos
Go For Broke!
Target For Tonight
Thunderbolt
The True Glory
The Battle of San Pietro
Frank Capra's Prelude to War
Memphis Belle
A Walk in the Sun
Battle of Blood Island
Passchendaele
The North Star


these range from 1942 all the way to 2007...and somehow Richard Pryor is in one of these. ???

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 7/9/2013 8:35:06 PM   
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so I picked up a DVD of 20 war movies for five dollars. "Combat Movie Classics War Collection"

Which one would you watch first?

Casablanca Express
Waterfront
Cold War Killers
A Yank In Libya
Black Brigade
They Raid By Night
Hitler's SS: Portrait of Evil
Eagles Attack At Dawn
Commandos
Go For Broke!
Target For Tonight
Thunderbolt
The True Glory
The Battle of San Pietro
Frank Capra's Prelude to War
Memphis Belle
A Walk in the Sun
Battle of Blood Island
Passchendaele
The North Star


these range from 1942 all the way to 2007...and somehow Richard Pryor is in one of these. ???
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Memphis Belle is the only one I've heard of - let alone seen. That was a good film


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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 7/10/2013 7:03:26 AM   
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so I picked up a DVD of 20 war movies for five dollars. "Combat Movie Classics War Collection"

Which one would you watch first?

Casablanca Express
Waterfront
Cold War Killers
A Yank In Libya
Black Brigade
They Raid By Night
Hitler's SS: Portrait of Evil
Eagles Attack At Dawn
Commandos
Go For Broke! Story of 44nd RCT (Nisei)
Target For Tonight Guy Gibson story, filmed in wartime
Thunderbolt
The True Glory
The Battle of San Pietro I think this is a wartime doco. Italy 1943
Frank Capra's Prelude to War
Memphis Belle
A Walk in the Sun 1943 Italy story
Battle of Blood Island
Passchendaele
The North Star


these range from 1942 all the way to 2007...and somehow Richard Pryor is in one of these. ???
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Memphis Belle is the only one I've heard of - let alone seen. That was a good film




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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 7/10/2013 7:33:59 PM   
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so I picked up a DVD of 20 war movies for five dollars. "Combat Movie Classics War Collection"

Which one would you watch first?

Casablanca Express
Waterfront
Cold War Killers
A Yank In Libya
Black Brigade
They Raid By Night
Hitler's SS: Portrait of Evil
Eagles Attack At Dawn
Commandos
Go For Broke!
Target For Tonight
Thunderbolt
The True Glory
The Battle of San Pietro
Frank Capra's Prelude to War
Memphis Belle
A Walk in the Sun
Battle of Blood Island
Passchendaele
The North Star


these range from 1942 all the way to 2007...and somehow Richard Pryor is in one of these. ???
warspite1

Memphis Belle is the only one I've heard of - let alone seen. That was a good film


Passchendaele was 2008 per IMdB and I thought it was pretty good - probably because it featured the Canadian army.

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 7/10/2013 7:34:49 PM   
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A Walk in the Sun was good, IIRC.

Agree that Memphis Belle is likely the best of that bunch.


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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 7/10/2013 8:04:13 PM   
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hvidstens gruppen. or flammen og citronen

danish movies about underground groups.

both of them new. made after 2000.

dont know if they were made with English subtitles

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 7/11/2013 6:02:35 PM   
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Any WWII film compilation that does not include Top Secret! is woefully incomplete. Some among the ignorant may blurt out "Top Secret! is not about WWII," but that's akin to saying M.A.S.H. is not about Vietnam.

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 7/11/2013 7:28:13 PM   
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MASH was in Korea ... so it was not about Vietnam

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 7/12/2013 2:09:21 PM   
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M*A*S*H* was a Vietnam era anti-war film. It spoofed the Army and had high connotations of the Vietnam conflict.

Drug usage was not as prevalent in Korea as in Vietnam. In my replacement company out of the 300 people in the company everyone knew the 5 individuals who were using recreational drugs. When I left Vietnam out of the 53 (officers and enlisted) people on my shift everyone knew the 5 who weren't using recreational drugs.

In the Korean era Army African-American officers especially football players would be extremely rare. He would probably not be in Korea due to his skills as a football player. The US military likes to keep exceptional sports people in their units (just like M*A*S*H*) as ringers for inter-unit rivalries.



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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 7/12/2013 4:35:55 PM   
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How can you all overlook the truly classic movie of accurate detail, superb acting and complex intellectual story line -- the one starring Ben "what's his name". As an aside, I received the PC game based on this movie as a Christmas gift from one of my kids. It's every bit as good as the movie. I am considering her place in my will. Both of these should be in everyone's first rank of WW2 items!

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 7/13/2013 9:50:18 AM   
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Hell in the Pacific
In Harm's Way
Kelly's Heroes
Flags of our Fathers & Letters of Iwo Jima

Those are my favorite titles.

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 7/13/2013 10:25:29 AM   
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Waterfront

What is this one ? On IMDB they have a lot with that name.
http://www.imdb.com/find?q=Thunderbolt&s=all

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 7/13/2013 10:29:25 AM   
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Agree that Memphis Belle is likely the best of that bunch.


A hundred thousand light years in front that B-17 crap they produced in 2012 directed by M Phillips.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1558575/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

It is a shame that so powerful electronic tools are used to make so shameful and crappy movies.

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 7/13/2013 4:31:11 PM   
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Waterfront. 1944. "In San Francisco, a codebook containing the top-secret information of two Nazi spies lands in the unsuspecting hands of Jerry Donovan."

haven't watched any of 'em yet.

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 11/7/2014 12:08:08 AM   
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Anyone seen Fury yet?

I thought I was pointed that way tonight, but it is running another week here. Soon, though.

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 11/7/2014 7:13:59 AM   
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Das Boot for sure.

2 that I'm surprised haven't been mentioned yet - Inglorious Bastards for it's over the top treatment of alternate history, and stunning visuals, and Empire of the Sun.

As for worst... there are two that rival PH for me - Codetalkers and Monuments Men. The first was just bad, the second mediocre, but what's particularly galling about these two films is that they deal with subject matter that is mostly unknown and yet very noteworthy, and they do it soooo badly.

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 11/7/2014 8:06:23 AM   
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"Thin Red Line" (1998), "Das Boot" (1981), "A Bridge Too Far" (?).

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 11/7/2014 11:26:29 AM   
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There are several that I like, but this mini-series is in German, with subtitles, I watched all 3 episodes back to back. I highly recommend it, assuming subtitles don't bother your or you speak German.

Generation War: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1883092/combined

Another one, in German with subtitles, that I highly recommend is Downfall: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/

Though, I generally prefer movies that I can watch without subtitles. My favorites are: Band of Brothers, The Pacific, 12 O'clock high

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 11/8/2014 2:40:07 PM   
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"Thin Red Line" (1998), "Das Boot" (1981), "A Bridge Too Far" (?).


A Bridge too far? As a Dutch citizens, I have to say that the director didn't pay much attention to the surroundings he was shooting in. I know the bridge at Deventer where the shooting took place for the movie (since the one in Arnhem couldn't be used for that, since the city had been totally rebuild after the war) but to have the modern 1970's traffic signs in the picture, was a huge error IMHO. And there are a couple of those...

The devil is in the details and for me, that rated this movie into the "nice try" department. It just isn't the Netherlands in the 1940's, I'm afraid...

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 11/8/2014 3:11:30 PM   
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My favorite all time war movie happened to be in WW1 it was called the Light Horsemen made by Australians, it was about the British Army facing a military disaster at Bathsheba Turkey, trying to capture the water wells at Bathsheba,
40,000 British infantry could not take it in the previous week and in another day the British forces would be without water for 48 hours.

The British colonel who was the commander of the Light Horsemen who were actually mounted infantry not Calvary, suggested to the commanding British General to be allowed to do a mounted charge with his 800 Light Horsemen against the artillery and fixed machine guns entrenched before the town. One General said you propose a mounted attack against a position that 60,000 British infantry failed to do, and the answer was what other alternatives are there sir. And the attack became history and an Australian legend.

Watch the movie on "you tube" the acting was brilliant and it was one of the few war movies that actually looked real and that you were there with them. The whole movie was excellent but if you would like to skip the start go to the last 25 minutes.

The charge was one for the centuries.

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 11/9/2014 12:36:32 AM   
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"Thin Red Line" (1998), "Das Boot" (1981), "A Bridge Too Far" (?).


A Bridge too far? As a Dutch citizens, I have to say that the director didn't pay much attention to the surroundings he was shooting in. I know the bridge at Deventer where the shooting took place for the movie (since the one in Arnhem couldn't be used for that, since the city had been totally rebuild after the war) but to have the modern 1970's traffic signs in the picture, was a huge error IMHO. And there are a couple of those...

The devil is in the details and for me, that rated this movie into the "nice try" department. It just isn't the Netherlands in the 1940's, I'm afraid...


Yea I get that, same for me with movies that play in Germany. Or even better, American actors trying to speak German ;)

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 11/9/2014 3:53:33 AM   
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Anyone seen Fury yet?

I thought I was pointed that way tonight, but it is running another week here. Soon, though.
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Not seen it but there are threads in the WITP-AE and General Disussion forums on this you may find useful.


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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 11/9/2014 4:46:58 AM   
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Battle of San Pietro is a John Houston documentary of a battle
made at San Pietro Infini right in the middle of the war. Music is by Dmitri Tiomkin.
The cast is original and the dead are really dead and the town
(not CGI) gets wrecked. Some consider it a work of art.
It is certainly unique in many ways.
In Passchendaele the battle scenes are pretty good and the production values
are excellent but the story is almost as bad as that one where Kate Beckinsale
is boning those two American pilots for some reason and those ships get blown up
becuase of it. Or in spite of it or something.

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 11/9/2014 2:06:35 PM   
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Anyone seen Fury yet?

I thought I was pointed that way tonight, but it is running another week here. Soon, though.
Warspite1

Not seen it but there are threads in the WITP-AE and General Disussion forums on this you may find useful.




Saw it with my grandson and son, did not like it, they were just soso about it
and they love war films, Brad Pitt was alright but the other actors in the tank looked like they came off the streets of Mexico not the US. And if we had two more tanks like this tank we would have won the war in September 1944. I thought the movie was Hollywood bullcrap IMHO.

The only redeeming factor to me was they were using one of the rare moveable German Tiger tanks left from WW2 instead of an American tank with the Iron cross on it, but even that was a hazy picture of the tank, not real clear. For sure this movie was no Private Ryan

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 11/10/2014 12:03:01 AM   
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So, just home from Fury. Thanks Warspite, I hadn't planned to venture elsewhere for thoughts on it but now I think I will.

I liked it a great deal. I think through-out the 21st Century, war movies will only improve. And that is a good thing, because it is always best to remember the Robert E. Lee quote "It is good that war is so terrible, else we would grow too fond of it." As a war gamer, I seek out these movies to keep at least a little perspective when the Heavy Machine Gun takes out two squads with a "KIA" roll of snake-eyes and you just take two counters off the board.

This movie has two obvious contrasting films. One is the recent Inglorious Basterds, which also starred Brad Pitt. I didn't like that one at all, because I am not always fan of Tarantino. I don't think it is cool to make comedy out of violence….well, that can be done and it is fine and can be funny, but Tarantino makes violence into porn by simply keeping the camera on the blood for far too long. Right at the beginning of Fury is some up-close and personal violence (it has been remarked on in most reviews); if Tarantino had made this movie, the climax of that scene would have lasted at least 60 seconds longer, for little gain to the film. In my opinion. this film has plenty of violence, of the distant see-the-machine-gun-drop-those-German-helmets-in-the distance type, and the up-close and personal exploding tank type. There is no need to linger on each act of violence, and this movie doesn't.

The other reference point is Saving Private Ryan &/or the Band of Brothers series perhaps (same sets, etc.), which was the last time Hollywood took a look at WWII American GIs in direct combat. I saw Pvt Ryan in a theater and I knew there were real WWII veterans in there with me, though I didn't walk in personally with any. It was an experience I will never forget.

Fury doesn't have quite the epic-ness level of action that Pvt Ryan had, but was still quite good. The actors were good, the realism was there, the symbolism was kept succinct. Watch for the horse's hooves right at the end. No, I don't know what they mean, just pay attention to what color they are. The ending, well, you decide. It was April, 1945 after all.

The technical notes we are all interested in:

This movie uses the last working Tiger tank in the world. An excellent scene. Richochets are well done throughout the movie. I now want to give highly detailed, computer video gaming of tank combat a try. Multiple tanks with teams using radios as in real WWII would be a fascinating gaming experience. Perhaps the computer could play the poor Russian tanks with no radio…you hope they do something smart to help your side. Or, you play in a tank with no radio. Good luck. I have no idea if such a game exists, but it should.

I played a lot of Squad Leader (really Cross of Iron, a whole lot) back in the day, though I ultimately tired of I-Go-You-Go tactical AFV combat. I never did punch out the counters for GI:Anvil of Victory. But I can't recall if any tanks had two machine guns on the turret. Bow and turret, yes. Also in Squad Leader I never thought of firing smoke rounds at an enemy tank….I hope that is a possibility in ASL.

Other things I appreciated - the CGI shot of an Allied LND-4 armada overhead. With a half dozen smoke plumes rising in opposition to try and stop the six dozen plumes advancing into Germany. A short shot, but telling.

I don't think I've ever seen as many Panzerfausts in a movie as this one.

The Germans were not really part of the dialogue, etc., as in some war movies. This was about American soldiers, and that is a good approach. Nevertheless, the writers gave the Germans some good lines, for example when they are opening a crate of what I first thought might be Panzerschrecks someone says "Make these count. They are all we have now." A nice reminder that it is April, 1945 after all. A German officer also gives a short pep talk that helps keep the perspective on this being a war, not a video game.

I also liked how the movie dealt with what militaries report to be the single most difficult thing to train a soldier to do: to kill another human being. They estimate that only 1/4 of soldiers in WWII actually aimed at the enemy, while most simply fired in their general direction. This movie tackles that subject directly.

One thing I thought a little off was a text note on-screen at the beginning "In April 1945, the Allies fought deep in Germany. They faced more fanatical resistance than ever before." This is true but only somewhat. The odds an American unit met a German unit with high morale were low, I believe. Of course, there were still SS units fighting. But they were somewhat few and far between I think. In Hollywood though, the GIs always fight the SS.

The last WWII book I read was earlier this year, a new one called "The End" by Ian Kershaw. It examined why the Germans kept fighting in 1945, as this movie ponders out loud at points. Despite reading a book length treatise on the subject, much of which I was already familiar with in a general sense, I still can't wrap my thoughts around that existential question very much. I'll probably re-read "The End" again some day, and I will watch this movie a couple more times in a year or so. And I think I will still not understand such a deep historical tragedy.

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 11/10/2014 2:06:33 AM   
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I've recently read "The End" as well, and have just finished "Victory in Europe" by Charles B. MacDonald, which goes into great detail about American operations in Germany in 1945. After the crossing of the Rhine in late March, the overwhelming impression is that the opposition is the remains of shattered units, training cadres, and assorted barrel scrapings. Most armour consists of penny-packets, often from nearby repair depots etc.

Of course there were a few SS units still around and some fanatical resistance but after the Rhine, it was all over in six weeks.

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 11/10/2014 2:35:59 AM   
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I think all the thinking about 1945, Germany, and Why?, misses a certain point - sure there were fanatical Nazis, but they were a minority. That book "The End" did go a long way towards explaining how a minority could control the majority. But the perhaps unanswerable question, and the probably eternal focus on that minority will still be Why?

My answer is something that is still alive in the world today - the absolute power of propaganda to motivate human action. Hitler and Goebbels always claimed their opponents were guilty of the "Big Lie." Yet I think any rational person will still always ask Why, Why you Fools?

I thought it was a little unfortunate in that book that he didn't go a little deeper into any other comparisons to "Last Stand" societies, though he pointed out that there have indeed been very few examples of such in history. Perhaps a subject that could still be explored. Fury only scratched the surface, simply having the characters ask the "Why?" (and then not quite directly). Perhaps Fury could use a "Letters From Iwo Jima" companion piece, which, come to think of it, IS an exploration of this same topic.

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