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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 11/16/2011 9:26:33 PM   
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Thoughts.

Enemy Capability
Amphib
We have sunk 52 xAP class ships, 17 "large" (14 points or more), 18 medium and the rest small ones. Not sure how many the Allies have but it is a significant number :)

Sunk 4 AP class vessels.

11 APD sunk

There are still a lot of ships out there, but many of the key ones needed for amphib ops against defended localities are dead. I expect this to impact his operations until mid 1943, it won't stop them though.

CV
5 are dead (Enterprise, Hornet, Yorktown, Lexington, Saratoga) and the two other US ones each took a torp, but will be back soon.

There are an increasing number of CVE available.

The Bits are still a threat.

Surface Combat
We have dinted the CA (9 sunk), CL (19 sunk) and DD (42 sunk) fleet, but there are lots out there still.


Overall we assess he is capable of conducting an amphib op in the Indian Ocean and 1.5 concurrent ops in the Pacific.

To counter this we have Mini KB (4CVL, 4 CVE) operating in the IO, with KB in the Pacific supported by strong TF.

Our area of weakness is the gap Oz-Java. We are watching for any build up there, but Port Hedland is about to become Lvl 4 Afld which will help to limit the gap.


Our Plans
China.We have three divisions of the strategic reserve currently committed to China. They have achieved the first objective, Nanning, and should take Liuchow. They can then redeploy to a central position. China should be largely broken by then.

Burma. We are fairly secure and have about 10 days warning of offensive action. Air parity is being maintained through raids and ambushes. Tojo is performing well and all our fighter units have average pilot quality in the mid 60's with air skills in the 70's.

West DEI
. We are slowly thickening up the defences as units become available. Mini KB is our reserve, with about two regiments of troops available as tactical reserve.

OZ. We want to hold the Nth coast as long as possible. He has committed a lot of OZ and US armour, and the longer we keep it there, in the open where our bombers can have an effect the better! Plan to thicken up Port Hedland more.

East DEI. The East DEI is relatively strong and secure, until Darwin falls. Our second line of defence is well established (Timor-Ambon-Boela) and we will be able to start on the third soon.

SW Pacific
. Is a bastion that I would shudder to contemplate an attack on as an allied player. Our weakness is supply, all those aircraft chew through lots! Well dug in, each base is interlocked and will take a 3 Div assault force to clear. Port Morseby is 450AV behind level 5 forts.

SOPAC. SOPAC is effectively two strong points of Lunga/Tulagi and Fiji, with nothing in between. Both are very strong, well dug in, with Fiji being the weakest due to isolation and supply. We intend to manoeuvre KB around these strong points and use a small counter invasion force to harass and annoy the Allied build up in an effort to delay, delay, delay.

CentPac
. The main strong points are Tarawa (good garrison 4.5 fort, small afld), Kusaie (main location with air HQ and level 6 aflds) and Ponope. The other islands are lightly garrisoned largely along historical lines. KB can support these strong points.

Norpac. We are only on the defence here. Paramushiro-jima is the main base, 4 Afld 5.6 forts and a Daitai of G3M3.


We are in a really good position, it will be interesting to see where we are in 12 months of game time from now.


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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 11/16/2011 9:43:19 PM   
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21 Dec Air Production

We have a supply shortage in the home Islands, and the following screenshot is the main reason :)

We are preparing for the decisive battles that will occur in mid 43 by trying to have the best aircraft in quantity to fight them with.

If we can limit the Allies ability to get air dominance we can limit the first step in the invasion plan (bomb the crap out of the beaches!), thereby causing delay.

The real limitation though will end up being pilots. We continue to maintain about one full reserve of what we consider "trained" pilots (70 air, 60 def skill). This is about 40-50 pilots. The IJN is slightly better off as it has suffered fewer losses, and has more air units that are flying in lightly contested areas.

Having said that the strategic reserve is the airgroups in China, which are generally magnificent. The Chinese air force is no threat, so they can be rotated out.

Good bomber pilots are the biggest limitation, as the reserve training units need to train in ASW, Naval Strike as well as ground attack.






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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 11/19/2011 2:54:14 AM   
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21 Dec 1942

Indicators and Warnings

Subs
Ouch

ASW attack near Isle of Pines at 115,161

Japanese Ships
SS I-176, hits 12

Allied Ships
DD Buchanan
xAK Iron Baron
xAK Mariso
xAK Langkoeas
xAK Modjekerto
DD Maury
DD Morris
DD Lansdowne


Burma
Lashaio is swept and bombed against opposition, our planes are flying and generally return home OK afterwards:

Morning Air attack on Lashio , at 62,46

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes


Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 15
B-17E Fortress x 12
B-24D Liberator x 15
B-25C Mitchell x 24
B-26B Marauder x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 66


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 43
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 93

Morning Air attack on Lashio , at 62,46

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9
B-25C Mitchell x 12


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 17



DEI

OZ

Pacific

China
We hit a number of bases and attack here, unless reinforced we will take it...

Ground combat at Liuchow (74,55)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 53163 troops, 586 guns, 1135 vehicles, Assault Value = 1764

Defending force 48254 troops, 219 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1424

Japanese adjusted assault: 1339

Allied adjusted defense: 1490

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1127 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 169 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 47 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Guns lost 19 (1 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Vehicles lost 81 (7 destroyed, 74 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
3216 casualties reported
Squads: 21 destroyed, 353 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 64 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 6 disabled


Assaulting units:
18th Tank Regiment
6th Division
12th Tank Regiment
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
40th Division
13th Tank Regiment
19th Division
2nd Tank Division
104th/A Division
23rd Army
21st Mortar Battalion
2nd RF Gun Battalion

Defending units:
28th Chinese Corps
37th Chinese Corps
31st Chinese Corps
52nd Chinese Corps
47th Chinese Corps
99th Chinese Corps
7th Chinese Base Force
35th Group Army
9th Group Army
4th War Area
9th Chinese Base Force


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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 11/19/2011 3:03:52 AM   
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22 Dec 1942

Indicators and Warnings

Subs
There has been a number of sub on sub actions during this game, here is another:

Sub vs Sub: SS I-158 attacking SS Trusty at 30,55 - near Koggala

Japanese Ships
SS I-158

Allied Ships
SS Trusty, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage



SS I-158 launches 2 torpedoes at 3,000 yards


Elsewhere it looks like Andrew has sortied subs back into the hunting grounds, in particular in the DEI. Our ASW efforts have continued during this quiete time, so we quickly pick up the subs and begin prosecuting them from the air and sea... so far without much tangible results. We loose a PB and an xAK though :(

Burma
We continue to attack into China, hitting Paoshin to close the airfield and cause supply problems.

Ground combat at 63,45 (near Bhamo)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 19508 troops, 211 guns, 20 vehicles, Assault Value = 557

Defending force 10458 troops, 55 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 345

Japanese adjusted assault: 297

Allied adjusted defense: 466

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
296 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
227 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 78 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)


Assaulting units:
112th Infantry Regiment
4th Division
33rd/C Division
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
71st Chinese Corps
49th Chinese Division


The problem with this is that Akyab will soon be up and running again.
DEI

OZ
We have moved the Nicks forward in a ground attack role against the Allied armour Nth of Daly waters, their skill is low so not much of an effect yet.

Pacific
A raiding TF is detected nth of Marcus, our strike aircraft are put on notice...


China
We continue to bomb Liuchow getting some good hurt on the defenders now.

Our forces have moved out on the road to Sian from Nanning... it won't be pretty... we will attack next turn.

Ground combat at 85,44 (near Nanyang)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1030 troops, 127 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5549

Defending force 83558 troops, 556 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2917

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)



Assaulting units:
11th Tank Regiment
32nd/B Division
13th Division
8th Ind.Mixed Brigade
41st Division
17th Tank Regiment
12th Division
116th Division
58th Infantry Regiment
24th NCPC Route Brigade
17th/C Division
23rd Tank Regiment
59th Infantry Brigade
17th/B Division
36th Division
57th Infantry Brigade
13th Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st Ind.Mixed Brigade
32nd/A Division
35th Division
2nd RGC Capital Division
34th Division
37th/C Division
8th Ind. Engineer Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
North China Area Army
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
12th Army
4th Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
93rd Chinese Corps
40th Chinese Corps
41st Chinese Corps
55th Chinese Corps
13th Chinese Corps
90th Chinese Corps
95th Chinese Corps
27th Chinese Corps
29th Chinese Corps
9th Chinese Corps
4th Construction Regiment
7th Group Army
22nd Group Army
36th Group Army
31st Group Army
8th Group Army
Jingcha War Area
4th Heavy Mortar Regiment


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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 11/19/2011 3:12:41 AM   
jrcar

 

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23 Dec 1942

Indicators and Warnings
F4-F4 detected for the first time, flying in Nth Oz, from VF-8 a "Hornet" group.

Subs

Feels like there are subs everywhere. Keeping them at bay... just

Burma
Usual bombing on the Chinese border. Expecting another attack, so are moving the bombers around to different bases.

The fighter groups are all full of great pilots and planes.

DEI

OZ
Over Portland Roads Andrew puts in a good ambush... looks like we have two new training squadrons :(

Afternoon Air attack on Portland Roads , at 91,132

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 25
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 20



Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 24
Spitfire Vc Trop x 15
P-38G Lightning x 7
P-40E Warhawk x 24
F4F-4 Wildcat x 33


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 12 destroyed
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 12 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1


Pacific

China
At Liuchow we get 1:1 and drop the forts...

Ground combat at Liuchow (74,55)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 54736 troops, 601 guns, 1126 vehicles, Assault Value = 1689

Defending force 45677 troops, 216 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1137

Japanese adjusted assault: 1197

Allied adjusted defense: 862

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1611 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 140 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 21 (1 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 31 (1 destroyed, 30 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
2950 casualties reported
Squads: 75 destroyed, 178 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 58 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 43 disabled
Guns lost 46 (10 destroyed, 36 disabled)


Assaulting units:
12th Tank Regiment
2nd Tank Division
19th Division
13th Tank Regiment
18th Tank Regiment
6th Division
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment
40th Division
104th/A Division
21st Mortar Battalion
23rd Army
2nd RF Gun Battalion

Defending units:
31st Chinese Corps
28th Chinese Corps
37th Chinese Corps
52nd Chinese Corps
47th Chinese Corps
99th Chinese Corps
35th Group Army
4th War Area
9th Group Army
7th Chinese Base Force
9th Chinese Base Force


Nth of Nanning I stuf up and attack with only one div, which is roughly handled. Looking at the results though we agree it is probably a good thing as we would have lost more casulties... we will pull back from this place for the moment.

Ground combat at 85,44 (near Nanyang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13589 troops, 231 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5549

Defending force 83557 troops, 556 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2921

Japanese adjusted assault: 3

Allied adjusted defense: 6106

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2035

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
5257 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 455 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 47 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 49 disabled
Guns lost 25 (6 destroyed, 19 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
23rd Tank Regiment
2nd RGC Capital Division
41st Division
24th NCPC Route Brigade
116th Division
17th Tank Regiment
32nd/A Division
17th/B Division
34th Division
58th Infantry Regiment
1st Ind.Mixed Brigade
8th Ind.Mixed Brigade
57th Infantry Brigade
13th Ind.Mixed Brigade
13th Division
17th/C Division
11th Tank Regiment
59th Infantry Brigade
36th Division
35th Division
12th Division
32nd/B Division
37th/C Division
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
8th Ind. Engineer Regiment
North China Area Army
12th Army
4th Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
90th Chinese Corps
93rd Chinese Corps
9th Chinese Corps
95th Chinese Corps
29th Chinese Corps
41st Chinese Corps
13th Chinese Corps
27th Chinese Corps
40th Chinese Corps
55th Chinese Corps
4th Construction Regiment
22nd Group Army
8th Group Army
36th Group Army
31st Group Army
7th Group Army
Jingcha War Area
4th Heavy Mortar Regiment




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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 11/19/2011 3:19:24 AM   
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Very quiet today, nothng to report cbt wise.

We are resting for hopefully a last push at Liuchow. We have cut the rail line nth of the city just in time, stopping a strong unit from reinforcing Liuchow.

The raiders have disappeared somewhere. We are going to send 2 CVE this way to counter these raids. They have had only one success, but there have been several close calls.

Our SOPAC counter attack force is aasmbling. A BB SCTF is at Suva ready to sortie as well if needed.

We are going to start culling out trained pilots into the "General Reserve" pool to build up the depth of our trained pilots.



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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 11/19/2011 3:28:41 AM   
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Indicators and Warnings

Subs

Burma
On the Chinese border the first lot of our reinforcements have arrived, with another div 5 days out. So I will attack and see if I can get 1:1... Paoshin is trashed and we are getting good supply and troop hits.

Ground combat at 63,45 (near Bhamo)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 390 troops, 38 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 693

Defending force 10046 troops, 51 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 293


Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Assaulting units:
4th Division
112th Infantry Regiment
1st Tank Regiment
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade
33rd/C Division
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
71st Chinese Corps
49th Chinese Division


DEI

OZ
The Nicks aren't doing much damage, but are getting some experiance... not sure it is worth it. Daly waters continues to be supressed. Forts at Darwin are around 5. Really need to increase the airfield at Darwin as it is at its stacking limit...

Lots of enemy fighters at Portland roads. Will do something about it at some stage. Portland Roads goes to a level 4 port.

Pacific
Our pilots contact the CA raiding force, but most of our planes turn back in bad weather, and no hits are gained. Reviewing the squadrons they have poor commanders, so they are replaced. Also the Helen unit that did launch has poor naval attack, so pilots are swapped in and out.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Torishima at 109,70

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 2



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Vincennes


China
We almost take Liuchow. We shock attack next turn.

Ground combat at Liuchow (74,55)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 53841 troops, 602 guns, 1128 vehicles, Assault Value = 1579

Defending force 42860 troops, 206 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 906

Japanese adjusted assault: 1256

Allied adjusted defense: 364

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1906 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 257 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 32 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 28 disabled
Vehicles lost 47 (1 destroyed, 46 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
3122 casualties reported
Squads: 108 destroyed, 93 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 19 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 19 (14 destroyed, 5 disabled)


Assaulting units:
13th Tank Regiment
40th Division
6th Division
2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment
2nd Tank Division
19th Division
12th Tank Regiment
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
18th Tank Regiment
104th/A Division
23rd Army
21st Mortar Battalion
2nd RF Gun Battalion

Defending units:
47th Chinese Corps
37th Chinese Corps
31st Chinese Corps
52nd Chinese Corps
28th Chinese Corps
99th Chinese Corps
4th War Area
7th Chinese Base Force
35th Group Army
9th Group Army
9th Chinese Base Force


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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 11/19/2011 9:30:50 AM   
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26 Dec 1942 Liuchow falls!

Indicators and Warnings

Subs

Burma
All quiet except on the Chinese border. There our attack goes bad, will have to wait for the fresh div to come up.

Ground combat at 63,45 (near Bhamo)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23843 troops, 252 guns, 134 vehicles, Assault Value = 714

Defending force 10008 troops, 50 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 290

Japanese adjusted assault: 387

Allied adjusted defense: 1384

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
989 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 87 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled


Allied ground losses:
776 casualties reported
Squads: 36 destroyed, 60 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 6 (4 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Assaulting units:
4th Division
112th Infantry Regiment
1st Tank Regiment
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade
33rd/C Division
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
71st Chinese Corps
49th Chinese Division




DEI

OZ

Pacific
Our bombers struggle to attack the CA Tf in heavy weather... looks like they will get away again :(

Morning Air attack on TF, near Hachijo-jima at 116,67

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 56 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 3
H8K1 Emily x 2



Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Craven
CA Vincennes

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hachijo-jima at 116,67

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 18
H8K1 Emily x 2



Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged
H8K1 Emily: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Vincennes



China

Liuchow falls! The industry and resources are intact.

Ground combat at Liuchow (74,55)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 52228 troops, 602 guns, 1127 vehicles, Assault Value = 1436

Defending force 40229 troops, 194 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 790

Japanese adjusted assault: 1383

Allied adjusted defense: 137

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Liuchow !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
2034 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 190 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 31 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Guns lost 15 (1 destroyed, 14 disabled)
Vehicles lost 72 (3 destroyed, 69 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
13091 casualties reported
Squads: 599 destroyed, 215 disabled
Non Combat: 747 destroyed, 55 disabled
Engineers: 124 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 76 (58 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Units retreated 11


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2nd Tank Division
12th Tank Regiment
2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment
13th Tank Regiment
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
40th Division
20th Engineer Regiment
19th Division
18th Tank Regiment
6th Division
104th/A Division
21st Mortar Battalion
23rd Army
2nd RF Gun Battalion

Defending units:
37th Chinese Corps
52nd Chinese Corps
28th Chinese Corps
99th Chinese Corps
35th Group Army
31st Chinese Corps
47th Chinese Corps
7th Chinese Base Force
4th War Area
9th Group Army
9th Chinese Base Force


One hex to the NE the cavalry test to see what we have in the hex, they are about 4 days too late.

Ground combat at 74,54 (near Liuchow)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5970 troops, 23 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 264

Defending force 225 troops, 0 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 18



Assaulting units:
88th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
5th Armored Car Co





Taking Liuchow is a tactical (we trashed a lot of units), operational (gives us a great position to attack nth or west) and strategic (takes 40 light industry and 100 resources from the Chinese and more importantly cuts the rail line) victory.

We don't really have the force though to exploit, and what is there need some recovery time, plus the key two divs involved are our strategic reserve, and we really need to move them out "soon".







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quote:

Good bomber pilots are the biggest limitation, as the reserve training units need to train in ASW, Naval Strike as well as ground attack.


"need to"? Really? By splitting your training groups between ground attack (70%), naval strike (25%) and ASW ( 5%) you can maintain a steady stream of pilots trained in a single skillset at the expense of operational flexibility. IN the longer term though you'll gain strategic flexibility since you will be able to replace pilots longs after having run out of them with your current training policy ( and having pilots equates to a flexibility which doesn't exist when you've run out of trained pilots ).

Also, are you really saying you only have 40 to 50 fighter pilots in reserve at any point in time?
I think in 1943 you'll find that amount could be lost in a day. I, personally, strip the China and Korea air units of all their good pilots and then use tem exclusively for training. Combined with a "good enough" training policy in which I train only a single skillset ( A2A OR Ground OR Low Naval - this streamlines naval attack and ASW since low naval skill can be used in conjunction with low-level naval search missions to substitute for ASW )

It might be very Soviet but I think the strategic benefits more than make up for the tactical and operational deficits.

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In China, you could set your bombers to Primary (Naval Attack) and Secondary (Ground). Then, set the bombers to 30% training on NavB. In the PM phase they will send in the 70% to attack ground units. After reading PxB AAR vs Andy when he threw Andy out of the SRA, I started to harvest those Army bomber pilots from China and other areas. You will need some quality pilots to throw back into combat in massive numbers when the Allies come back in force.

I use some of my large Restricted air units in the Home Islands to train in NavB and ASW (mostly naval air units). If not on active missions, my FPs on board ships are trained into high 60s in NavS. Then switch over to either ASW or NavB. I harvest them all.

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Thanks Gents excellent comments. Agree about the use of the IJA to attack shipping.

Nemo also agree about the "focus" of a sqn on a particular capability, that is how we started, however our losses have been low so we have taken the opportunity to train them up "better".

We are generally aiming at dual hatting our bomber units, although due to historical reasons and low losses, one or two are tripple hatted. The hats are land bombing, ASW and low level Naval.

We have 4 "groups" of bombers conducting land bombing:
....group of six units in Burma (excellent land bombing, and a mix of ASW and low naval attack secondary skill)
....group of four at Darwin (similar but more naval attack now and ASW)
....group of three sth China (land bombing, 2 have ASW)
....group of four in Nth China (excellent land bombing)


In addition we have a lot of "independedent" units adding up to about 12 27 unit equivelents conducting ASW, mainly in the DEI and the Home Islands. Five have now transitioning to "low naval training" while they conduct ASW ops now that their ASW skill is good, then they can transition to land attack.


Supporting these groups we have two "training bases", one at Harbin in Manchuria and the other at Yokohama.

In Harbin three IJA bomber units are on training. Initially the bombers were training ASW, however about a month ago now the ASW units were full of good ASW pilots so now two are training ground missions and one low naval attack.

At Yokohama we have two units training, one low naval attack, one ASW (although the ASW unit is currently tasked to Low Naval against the raiding force, part is on training).


Overall I'd assess:

Our 12 ASW groups are full of good to very good pilots, but this was a focus of ours for nine months. We only need one "training group" to support these.

Our 17 land attack groups are full of good to very good pilots, however these are the guys that suffer the highest attrition. We are most concerned about our ability to keep that skill up, and so about a month ago we transitioned two training groups back to land attack. That allows us to replace immediately a failed strike that is shot from the sky (as we did in Burma a few weeks ago, and recently over nth OZ).

The ASW groups are now being trained in the secondary skill of low naval attack, in particular in the Home Islands and the DEI.

Some of the land attack groups have secondary skill in low naval attack, others in ASW, but the focus is now on low naval.

The China based units are mostly "pure" although a few have ASW.


We have air dominance over China, so the pilots there are effectively our strat reserve, but we don't want newbies in them as we are actively progressing the war in China, and that needs good air support. Now that we have Liuchow though there would be benefit with training the Chinese pilots on low naval attack.

Cheers

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Indicators and Warnings

Subs

A mass of subs are detected travelling East to West sth of Yokohama, ASW forces are put on aleart and convoy's re-routed. It has been quiet around the home islands for a month or two.

Sub attack near Noumea at 109,160

Japanese Ships
SS I-18, hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Voyager

ASW attack near Amchitka Island at 158,52

Japanese Ships
SS RO-60, hits 7

Allied Ships
xAKL Mauna Ala
xAKL Island Mail
xAKL Manini
SC-647



Burma
We continue to bomb the chinese forces over the border, with little permemant effect, but hopefully wearing them down bit by bit. Our bomber group moves from base to base in case Andrew attacks.

An extra Div is 3-5 days away.

DEI

OZ

Pacific
Kb is moving to position.

China
Our cav unit is treated badly, but soon all our armour will move out.

Ground combat at 74,54 (near Liuchow)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 5938 troops, 23 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 260

Defending force 225 troops, 0 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 18

Allied adjusted assault: 206

Japanese adjusted defense: 7

Allied assault odds: 29 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 17 (5 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Units retreated 1


Allied ground losses:
106 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
88th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
5th Armored Car Co



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jrcar,

Well-reasoned. You've definitely thought it through. I suppose the difference arises out of differing philosophies. You seem wedded to quality whereas I'm more wedded to the idea that so long as I can replace losses with "good enough" pilots then I can lose my entire air force every 2 to 3 months and still maintain its effectiveness. Western vs Soviet viewpoints.

Bear in mind though that as the game gets into 1944 and 1945 the whole dynamic changes. I'm playing several 1945 games at the moment and in them I've had losses of 2,500 to 3,000 planes over 4 to 5 days when fleets clashed and land-based air tried to resist Allied amphibious invasions. With the huge number of training groups I've still been able to keep numbers up ( in fact I ran into the pilot limit and had to begin training pilots to a higher standard to lower the rate of graduation below the rate of attrition so that the pilot roster could be cleaned out and allow new draftees ) but if I'd been trying to double or triple hat in 1945 my force would have utterly collapsed.

Consider me the Ghost of Christmas To Come ;-).


Overall though its great to see such a reasoned, thoughtful AAR in which a long-term plan has clearly been followed without fuss or periods of panic. Professionalism at work.

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Nemo thanks for the comments, yes we have been watching a number of the late war games...

At some point we will have to give up the qualitative edge, this will probably occur in the land attack bomber groups first. Certainly by late 1943, and probably around mid 1943 when the game should get real interesting for us as quality and quantity favour the Allies.

I am interested in aircraft types for late war...

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Indicators and Warnings
In Nth Oz the enemy are one hex out from a lightly held Katherine.

Subs

Burma
Andrew Swwps Taung Gai where our bombers are based, I'll move them out and move in a couple of hundred fighters... hopefully he will come back next turn... At long range we shoukd get some good kills...


DEI

OZ
We trash Daly waters, but the enemy are getting close to the gate of Katherine. We can't afford to defend it, so once Katherine falls there will be two airfields, we can only supress one, so soon Darwin will be a waste land...

Pacific
Luhanville is hit from B-17 from Noumea for no effect.

China

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29 Dec 1942 Cap Trap works!

Indicators and Warnings

Subs
Lots of sub action.

Submarine attack near Enderbury Island at 154,143

Japanese Ships
SS I-8

Allied Ships
xAK Makiki, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage



xAK Makiki is sighted by SS I-8
SS I-8 attacking on the surface

Sub attack near Dadjangas at 79,94

Japanese Ships
PB Tatsumiya Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Chitose Maru #2

Allied Ships
SS Saury



Burma
Just to keep him honestandlooking in multiple directions our ships bombard, results are ok.

Night Naval bombardment of Cox's Bazar at 54,43

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 18 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya
CA Chokai
CA Atago


Allied ground losses:
144 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Airbase hits 21
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 46
Port hits 6
Port fuel hits 2




Not a great start to our CAP Trap, P38 are a nightmare to fight :(

Morning Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 59,48

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 78
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 155



Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 8
P-38G Lightning x 25


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-38F Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed


Despite the strong CAP the bombers get through with relatively minor losses, his escorts do well keeping our fighters away:

Morning Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 59,48

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 74
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 138



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 16
Liberator II x 3
Vengeance I x 31
Hurricane XIIb x 16
A-24 Banshee x 16
B-17E Fortress x 12
B-24D Liberator x 15
B-25C Mitchell x 51
B-26 Marauder x 6
P-40K Warhawk x 50


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 5 damaged
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 2 destroyed
Vengeance I: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Hurricane XIIb: 1 destroyed
A-24 Banshee: 6 destroyed
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed
B-26 Marauder: 1 damaged
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed


Japanese ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled



Airbase hits 35
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 112


The follow up raids though get mauled.

Morning Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 59,48

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 69
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 127



Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 11


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 damaged


Allied aircraft losses
Liberator II: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged




Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Morning Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 59,48

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 66
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 118



Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9
B-26B Marauder x 12


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 7 destroyed


Morning Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 59,48

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 59
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 106



Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 12


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged




DEI

OZ
This is the fate that will soon be on Darwins door :

Morning Air attack on Sasebo 6th SNLF, at 76,128 (Katherine)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 30
B-17F Fortress x 28


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
174 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Pacific

China
Ichang is about to change hnds for about the 10th time in the game, we take it, then abandon it, hoping Andrew comes back, so we can then trash the defenders!

Ground combat at Ichang (83,48)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 690 troops, 0 guns, 103 vehicles, Assault Value = 58

Defending force 1845 troops, 53 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 75

Japanese adjusted assault: 84

Allied adjusted defense: 83

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+)


Allied ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
9th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
8th Chinese Corps


The Armour trashs the Corps in the open NW of Liuchow, this is a significant operational victory as it opesn the inland route up...

Ground combat at 74,54 (near Liuchow)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10646 troops, 128 guns, 1086 vehicles, Assault Value = 499

Defending force 5721 troops, 23 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 238

Japanese adjusted assault: 422

Allied adjusted defense: 36

Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), disruption(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 8 (2 destroyed, 6 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
2937 casualties reported
Squads: 101 destroyed, 153 disabled
Non Combat: 58 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 10 (5 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Units retreated 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
12th Tank Regiment
5th Armored Car Co
18th Tank Regiment
13th Tank Regiment
2nd Tank Division

Defending units:
88th Chinese Corps



A very good turn for us, expect Andrew to lick his wounds in Burma for a while!

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Aircraft claims are:

Claims are:
17 Tojo
12 A6M3
3 Pilots KIA, 6 WIA no MIA

18 B25
16 B26
11 A24
9 P40K
8 P38
5 B24
5 Hurri XIIb
5 Hurri IIc
4 Vengance
3 Liberator II

total 74 vs 33 (we lost some Nell over Noumea on search and a coupl of ops losses)

Getting the mdeiums is very nice, two squadrons worth, and any $E killed is a bonus!

Our losses are easily made up, and with only 3 KIA there is no impact on our pilot quality.


Taung Gai is trashed though :(

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Indicators and Warnings

Subs

Burma
Our forces are ready on the burma border, an extra div has arrived. Another div has railed into Lashaio so will form a 4 div corps to attack east into China and see how far we go.

Our bombs units in the mountains to little effect.

Allied airpower has pulled right back as well, even the transports appeared to have stopped flying.



DEI

OZ
Over Katherine we intercept the bombers. We can't generate mass, Darwin is too small an airfield. May have to route part of mini KB this way so we have more airpower for the final defence of Darwin.

Morning Air attack on 146th Infantry Regiment, at 76,128 (Katherine)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 6



Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 28
B-17F Fortress x 26


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged
B-17F Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled




Pacific

China
Ichang holds on another day, the enemy are trying to retreat.

Ground combat at Ichang (83,48)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 690 troops, 0 guns, 103 vehicles, Assault Value = 56

Defending force 1784 troops, 53 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 68

Japanese adjusted assault: 76

Allied adjusted defense: 49

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+)


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
9th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
8th Chinese Corps



Two armoured divs are now marching nth up the road/railway into the interior of China... The rest are digging in at Liuchow and recovering strength.




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Indicators and Warnings

Subs
We get some action this turn :)

Sub attack near Noumea at 114,160

Japanese Ships
SS I-34

Allied Ships
AVP Fazant, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

ASW attack near Noumea at 114,160

Japanese Ships
SS I-34

Allied Ships
AM Whyalla, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AM Lark


The RO sinks :( We need to send some of our raiders this way.

TF 72 encounters mine field at Adak Island (162,52)

Japanese Ships
SS RO-66, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage



Burma

We finally defeat the units on the border. We will keep advancing, another div is headed this way.

Ground combat at 63,45 (near Bhamo)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 36987 troops, 366 guns, 134 vehicles, Assault Value = 1160

Defending force 9376 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 247

Japanese adjusted assault: 1044

Allied adjusted defense: 313

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
913 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 43 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


Allied ground losses:
1640 casualties reported
Squads: 111 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 155 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 12 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 14 (7 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Units retreated 2


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
4th Division
53rd Division
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st Tank Regiment
112th Infantry Regiment
33rd/C Division
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
71st Chinese Corps
49th Chinese Division



DEI

Neear the mouth of the Malacca strait Andrew managed to get a raider in, but elements of mini KB found it :)

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Victoria Point at 47,65

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
B5N1 Kate x 3



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AMC Pansy, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk


OZ

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N1 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

The first enemy unit has appeared at Katherine. Our light force won't last, however it will stay and fight, giving our airforce some opportunity to hit things.

Once Katherine falls we will have to concentrate on keeping it supressed and therefore Daly waters will build.

Pacific

China
Bugger there were only two units hear last turn!

We should hold the counter attack, but it coukd be nasty...

Ground combat at 84,46 (near Nanyang)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 33632 troops, 244 guns, 392 vehicles, Assault Value = 1321

Defending force 58611 troops, 331 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2395

Japanese adjusted assault: 436

Allied adjusted defense: 873

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
6511 casualties reported
Squads: 42 destroyed, 519 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 112 disabled
Engineers: 18 destroyed, 57 disabled
Vehicles lost 65 (12 destroyed, 53 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
2147 casualties reported
Squads: 52 destroyed, 164 disabled
Non Combat: 114 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 28 (21 destroyed, 7 disabled)


Assaulting units:
116th Division
17th Tank Regiment
57th Infantry Brigade
23rd Tank Regiment
34th Division
11th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps
1st Chinese Corps
67th Chinese Corps
98th Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
94th Chinese Corps
32nd Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
26th Group Army



In the south our armour is moving fast on the roads and has caught up with another corps. Air attacks and a shock attack next turn should clear it.


Here is the situation on the Burma border.








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Situation 1 Jan 1943
A6M5, Judy, Dinah III come into production. The first and last upgrade without damage, the Judy needs to repair.

Here is Nth Oz.

In Darwin we have 700AV (including a full div and 3 TK regiments) behind 4.6 forts.

At Katherine we have 40AV behind level 3 forts.

2 Helen units, a Zero unit and a Nick unit are the air defenders.

Coming "soon" will be a BB SCTF to help bombard the attackers when they get to the coast.







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Here is China, we are pulling forces from the attack on Sian. 1 Div is going the the SWPAC as a reserve, 2 and a HQ are heading all the way south to help with the followup after Liuchow.




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Indicators and Warnings

Subs
His subs are now active in the shipping lanes, our aircraft and escorts are supressing them, but causing little damage.

Sub attack near Iriomote at 91,62

Japanese Ships
PB Tatsumi Maru
xAK Sinno Maru

Allied Ships
SS Plunger

Sub attack near Phuket at 47,69

Japanese Ships
PB Hokuyo Maru
PB Yahonui Maru

Allied Ships
SS Haddock

Sub attack near Taihoku at 89,61

Japanese Ships
SC CHa-41

Allied Ships
SS Plunger


Burma
We continue to advance over the Chinese border, otherwise it is quiet.

DEI
A BF is on the way to the gap bwteen Java and Timor.


OZ
We strike the troops at Katherine destroying two tanks and hit Daly Waters for the last time. From next turn all airpower will be against the gallent defenders of Katherine, whom do good this turn!

Morning Air attack on 146th Infantry Regiment, at 76,128 (Katherine)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 4



Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 24
B-17F Fortress x 26


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged
B-17F Fortress: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
85 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Ground combat at Katherine (76,128)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 665 troops, 0 guns, 103 vehicles, Assault Value = 300

Defending force 1119 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 36

Allied adjusted assault: 52

Japanese adjusted defense: 78

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
131 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled



Assaulting units:
2/7th Armoured Regiment
2/6th Armoured Regiment
2/9th Armoured Regiment
3rd Motor Brigade

Defending units:
146th Infantry Rgt /2



While we have some 47mm AT guns in the unit the Armoured Regiments probably have Matilda's, and not much we can do about them :(

The airforce is now starting to redeploy. Helen II from Samulaki can easily reach Katherine, so one bomber unit is operating from there. The Helen 1 are operating out of Darwin, but will move them and upgrade at Samulaki to Helen II, then move in more fighters to Darwin.



Pacific

Part ok KB is split off to raid, as it goes past Nadi the CAP supports the defence of the base.

Afternoon Air attack on Nadi , at 131,160

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9



Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 7


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged


A small 1 ship TF is detected heading to Tanna. We will send in a small SCTF to intercept.

China
We apply mass airstrikes in two key locations. The priority is the mass opposite our armour near Nanning that hurt us last turn. We causing around 1000 casulties as they are disrupted and in the open. He doesn't attack us here and a potential crisis passes.

The other target is in support of this attack.

Ground combat at 73,52 (near Tuyun)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 10872 troops, 128 guns, 1091 vehicles, Assault Value = 516

Defending force 5276 troops, 40 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 228

Japanese adjusted assault: 834

Allied adjusted defense: 88

Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 28 (2 destroyed, 26 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
2798 casualties reported
Squads: 74 destroyed, 52 disabled
Non Combat: 41 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 15 (7 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Units retreated 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
13th Tank Regiment
18th Tank Regiment
5th Armored Car Co
12th Tank Regiment
2nd Tank Division

Defending units:
2nd Prov Chinese Corps


The road to Tuyun is now open.


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Rob - Look I posted! (no AOFFEN or Mark) - 11/23/2011 7:06:25 AM   
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Greetings All,

I am the other half of the Japanese team and generally remain below the radar horizon, letting Rob do the AAR stuff, which he does so well - Int types write well, even if it is mostly crap :)! Actually, we continue to play very well as a team, acting as foils to each others foibles and eccentricities, whilst complementing each others strengths. We discuss most turns and remain focused on our operational and strategic goals; as Nemo kindly complemented us on. The main purpose of me posting is to see if I can actually cause Rob to have a heart attack by so doing :) [Rob, how's the ticker mate ...!]

Anyway, I look after CENPAC, SOPAC and SWPAC. My main focus remains destruction and delay. the whole SOPAC theatre is purely held for delay. Our first hard line being Lunga/Tulagi, then Kusai Island, curving NW to Ponape, Truk and finally the Saipan chain. By staying focused on our main effort we try not to be distracted by tactical fluff and try and keep our opposition in reaction mode. This is of course becoming significantly harder as we move into 1943 and the allied power grows. Our main advantage is in the destruction of four of the six US CV, enabling us a significant freedom of manoeuvre until mid 1943. For the SOPAC and CENPAC area's of Operation (AO's) I WANT him to invade; with CV superiority this then gives me the chance to isolate his invasions and kill Allied troops and material, thus achieving further delay.

In China, I play a shell game with the gnd forces. Lure him out of position and kill Chinese troops in the open. This tactic has enabled us to make significant gains in the last few months and may yet open up a backdoor to Chungking (via Luichow and Tyun). Care is taken not to make them surrender, as they rebuild, and in many cases stronger than they started! In scenario 1, opposing a decent opponent (who pulled back from Loyang and Chengchow, thus preserving all those critical troops), it is critical to make use of the interior LOC's (roads and rail) to quickly change the direction of attack. A strat look at the Chinese theatre clearly divides it into three theatres, one isolated (N and NE - Sian AO), and the other two capable of being separated.

As a whole we remain focused on delay; we must win time to gather resources and to buy more Gnd forces out of Manchuria/Mongolia and also time for our reinforcements to arrive (as you will all be aware Scen1 as a Jap you are desperately short of gnd forces). We are happy to fight an air war of attrition over our own terrain and will play the afld 'shell game' and 'CAP Trap' in Burma for as long as we can fly!

Our critical tactical weakness is fuel (balancing fleet usage, and tanker need for taking resources home or dropping fuel into OP bases).
Main Strat weakness is lack of gnd troops to harden the crust and provide depth, thus our focus on DELAY.

Anyway, just a quick brief and happy to answer any questions; now sinking beneath the forum surface once again ...........

Regards,

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RE: Rob - Look I posted! (no AOFFEN or Mark) - 11/23/2011 4:20:43 PM   
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A Tony sighting! This is rarer than a yellow-bellied woodpecker!

Rough timing on posting to give Rob a heart attack - the man just had surgery.

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RE: Rob - Look I posted! (no AOFFEN or Mark) - 11/24/2011 7:45:05 AM   
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It has taken me 24hrs to recover from this unexpected development!

Will report the turn soon.

Cheers

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02 Jan 1943 Katherine Falls!


Indicators and Warnings

Subs

ASW attack near Taichu at 86,62

Japanese Ships
DD Shikinami

Allied Ships
SS Gudgeon, hits 1

Submarine attack near Efate at 120,154

Japanese Ships
SS I-21

Allied Ships
xAK Anshun, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Burma
Bad weather, a few attacks on the Chinese on the border.

DEI

OZ
Bad weather grounds our aircraft and they fail to fly in support of the defenders of Katherine. Then the attack goes in:

Ground combat at Katherine (76,128)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5124 troops, 46 guns, 409 vehicles, Assault Value = 300

Defending force 1087 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 33

Allied adjusted assault: 173

Japanese adjusted defense: 6

Allied assault odds: 28 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Katherine !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
873 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 22 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 19 (18 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 1


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2/9th Armoured Regiment
2/6th Armoured Regiment
2/7th Armoured Regiment
3rd Motor Brigade

Defending units:
146th Infantry Rgt /2


There are still a lot of troops behind these guys.

Darwin in heading to level 5 Forts.

Pacific
Andrew bombs Nadi with B17E causing light damage.

China
Bad weather grounds most combat sorties.

We retake an empty Ichang (3rd or 4th time now).


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3 Jan 1943


Indicators and Warnings

Subs

Burma
Attacks on Chinese troops continue, our ground forces are 1-2 days out.

DEI
Oosthaven on the sth tip of Sumatra makes level 4 port. This takes pressure off Palembang. Supplies from here are flowing to Java to fix the HI, resources to Singapore.

OZ
Our bombers fly getting a nice hit on Katherine airbase. Another unit of Helen II arrives at Samulaki.

Pacific
PT boats detected off Efate, looks like Andrew intends to build this base up. KB continues to lurk...

China
We cause over a 1000 casulties from air attacks on the stack west of Nanning (it is in the open) only 90,000 to go!

We have two div about to move into this hex, that will give use 1800 AV. In the open with Armour we should be able to do some damage...

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Convoys.

We started out using the smaller slower xAKL in the nth drawing resources from Sakalin and Hokkaido. This was due to the port capacity.

We moved any unit with engineers into the key ports to build them up, this took about 5 months.

Now we can use a mix of large and small convoys, I won't claim they are fully optimised however we have drawn resources down in these two areas so that each basically has a load of resources, and it replenishes prior to the next convoy coming in.

Sakalin
From Sakalin we have four convoys averaging about 25,000 point load. Every now and then we run a small TK convoy to pick up oil.

Hokkaido
From Hokkaido we have:

1 large 64,000 convoy (5040 size ships)and a 41,000 Convoy, going Hakodate-Ominato
2 21,000 convoys go Sapporo - Hirosaki.

Korea/Manchuria

From Korea/Manuchuria we ran lots of convoys drawing resources down from Port Arthur, while we built up Fusan. Now we just run just one 20,000 convoy from Fusan, with the occasional one from Port Arthur. Resources are balanced here now.

China
From China we run a 20k convoy from Tsingtao (this was one of the erly set up ones and it has run ever since.

From Shanghai we run 3 25k convoys , one returns with supply every 5 days or so.

Indo China
We have one 31k convoy running Bankok-Home Islands carring resources one way, supply the other.

From Haiphong we run 3-4 large (65k) convoys carrying resources, 2 carrying fuel and one oil.

We use Cam Ranh bay as the oil hub from Brunei/Miri.

DEI
Fuel and oil is shipped from Palembang, Medan and Rangoon to Singapore. From here it either travels overland to Haiphong or is picked up and generally sent to the Home Islands (sometimes is diverted to the Pacific).

Fuel from Brunei is shipped to Manila or the home islands.

Tarakan and Balikpapan send fuel to the DEI/Pacific, resources and oil to Sorebaya.

Resources and oil is shipped from Sorebaya and Kendari to the Home Island.

Resources are fuel to shipped from Nth Oz and the East DEI to Kendari (there are 9 small convoys doing this).

Pacific

A shuttle of 4 small convoys take resources from Nauru to Truk, where convoys heading back to the Home Islands (which were carrying troops/supply to Rabaul/Truk) take it to the Home Islands.


We are drawing about 6k a turn of resources from Nth Oz and from Nauru.

In the Home Islands we now look like:






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Aircraft Production.
Judy is taking time to build, we have two factories working on it and are repairing 2 aircraft a day.









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Oscar IIa is proving its worth in China as a fighter bomber. Its long range also helps with escorting aircraft there, freeing up Zero for Burma and the Pacific.

Tojo overall is on parity with the Allied fighters, but tends to get beaten by P-38.

A6M3a is a great aircraft. The A6M3 has done ok in Burma, and tends to handle the P-38.

The A6M5 hasn't been in action yet... maybe need to try in Burma where its extra speed may help.

Next game I'd focus on Helen more. The Helen II is a good aircraft with long range, allowing it to be kept well back. We keep the Helen 1 in production for ASW.

Lily II was a mistake.



We have placed the supply situation in the home islands under a lot of stress with our large incresae in the Frank/George, however we see that the mid 43 timeframe, when they should arrive, will be a critical time, and a month or twos delay in there will lengthen the war.

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