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Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN or M... - 12/10/2010 6:14:33 AM   
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Well a few weks ago AOFFEN and Mark challenged Tony and I to a 2x2 game.

AOFFEN, Tony and I managed to catch up in Brisbane to meet in Person, Mark is overseas.

Andrew and Mark have played AE a bit but are relatively new players. Tony and I have a bit of experiance, as a consequence we are the Japanese :)

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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/10/2010 6:27:06 AM   
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Strategy
To win :)

There are two fundamental approaches, a force approach and a terrain approach. In the force approach you bring the enemy to battle and destroy their ability to wage war, then take what land you want. The terrain approach focus on capturing the ground.

We intend the former. We have determined the enemy's centre of gravity is their ability to generate a multi divisional amphibious attack. To stop them doing that we intend to target:

Medium and heavy bombers.
Ground combat units.
Amphib ships.

While we are required to capture the SRA our primary aim will be to destroy these forces. Actions will be undertaken to achieve that mission, rather than to seize ground.


Having said that we expect to achieve the following:

Clear Burma of enemy ground troops,
seize and Defend the Dutch East Indies,
Threaten Ceylon and India (an invasion may be carried out)
Rabaul
Port Moresby (highly desirable)
Fiji (raid and retire)
Midway (raid and retire)


We are still truggling with how to divide up the areas.

At this stage I will have malaya, Burma, China and probably the nth coast of Burma and into Sumatra.

Tony will have Phillipines, DEI, south, SW, cent and Norpac.

I'll probably manage the convoys.

More to follow later.

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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/10/2010 7:31:48 AM   
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jrcar, Tony,

thanks for doing another AAR = another must-read for me. Lots to be learned from your realistic approach.



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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/10/2010 9:20:42 AM   
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Interesting... Methinks we can expect some SLOC raiding to catch amphib-capable and amphib support ships.

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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/11/2010 12:24:37 AM   
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Thanks guys, yes Nemo that will be an outcoe of our strategy :)

It has been a while since I played Japanese, gettng my head back into the ORBAT.

The following are some of my operational thoughts, advice and comments very welcome!

Burma
It is important to make progress here early. The initial problem is a lack of troops, even an addition regiment can make a big difference, and armour is very important. We want to well and truely trash the forces in Burma.

I'm currently looking around to see where I can free up units. I have my eyes on the 21st Ind Bde at Hanoi. If I fly in some SNLF for the garrison from SAMAH I can free that bde up and move across country. This will save shipping. I'd also like to free up a regt out of Korea to commit here.

By going into Burma early we can cut off escape from Malaya, in particular the short legged aircraft, and reduce their flexibility to redeploy. The problem with doing it is that it encourages them to stay at home in India, whereas we really want them to deploy forward...

So I think the answer is to move as much to Bangkok as we can, then strike in a masive force. This means the initial offensive will be delayed a bit (hopefully encouraging them to commit), but when we do come it will be unstoppable... and over quickly and decisively.

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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/11/2010 12:40:00 AM   
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Enemy Comd Analysis
It was good for us to meet a few weeks ago. Based on that, emails and other intelligence we have made the following assements.

They are both relatively inexperianced, but are intelligent, have been following AARs (Including our one against Nik and Joe) and have been following the game for a long time.

We think they are likely to be generally cautious, employ the "Sir Robin" strategy but will look for some aggrisive options.

They are aware of the weakness in Allied aircraft numbers until 1943. But have also seen a number of games where the Allies have done quite well.

We expect them to learn quickly though through the game.


Friendly Comd Analysis
Tony and I are agresive without being rash. Tony in particular has excellent "battle sense". I'm the better logistician. Tony seeks to get every tactical cent of value, where as I tend to be more operational and strategic.

We communicate well and usually logically come to a similar conclusion independently, but as we look at things from different perspectives the resulting plan becomes more robust as a consequence (the benefit of team play).


The challange for us in this game will be to bring the enemy to battle early and decisively, to destroy the bomber force and attrit their ability to conduct simultaneous amphib operations (therefore we can concentrate on one avenue of approach).

They are likely to pull back as soon as we commit.

So we won't rush, but methodically work our way through their forces. By destroying their forces we aim to be able to be capable of offensive action until the end of 1942, but we will culminate and dig in well before then.

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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/11/2010 1:23:23 AM   
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Are you giving thought to an OMG ( Operational Manoeuvre Group ) type amphibious force?

Basically what I am talking about is something I have implemented a few times to good effect. Create the operational gap in the enemy line ( e.g. taking Oosthaven and thus opening up the straits there for the transit of Japanese shipping ) and then insert a multi-divisional force into the enemy's strategic depth - Ceylon/Burma etc while the fighting is still ongoing in either Burma ( if going for Ceylon ) or Malaysia ( if going for Burma ). By doing this you could trap significant Allied forces forward-deployed and in between two fires as it were. Generally once the strategic exploitation is done the escorts etc sweep backwards as your previous MLR transitions into a pursuit.

Obviously the same thing can be done in other theaters and is even more effective when done in areas where they only egress is via air or ship....


The reason I mention it explicitly is that it seems to me to be the best way for you to trap significant amphibious-capable/support forces in the face of a Sir Robin. It isn't quite as simple as just advances faster than they can run but it promises to be more effective if they truly do "Sir Robin" as you'll simply leapfrog intermediate objectives in favour of deeper ones trusting that the dislocation and withdrawal of their forces/pursuit by yours will lead to an overall speeding up of the timetable whilst also trapping those precious amphibious capable/support ships between two fires and also just gutting hard to replace ground formations.

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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/11/2010 1:35:44 AM   
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:)

The aim is to create a mixed tempo game and exploit opportunities like this, basically whet we have done with Joe and Nik as well, maintain contact, look for gaps, exploit.

It is difficult maintaining a force capable of doing this, and can be high risk, but has high payoff :)

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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/12/2010 1:17:49 AM   
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China Operations
The initial operation is to free up combat power by reassigning forces.

Phase two is to clear Nanyang, Loyang, Chengchow in the mid north area.

Forces will then be reassigned to the south.

Operations from Hainan against the Free French city and Pakhoi are being carried out concurrently with the first phase using forces originally assigned to Manado and Ternate.

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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/12/2010 1:20:52 AM   
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North Borneo
Miri will be the initial target, the forces from Cam Ramh Bay and Samah will assemble in the south china sea.

Kuching is the main game though, forces will also assemble in the south China Sea before heading in.

We discussed going to Singkawang but feel it is too exposed to start with. It will be a subsequent objective after Kuching.

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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/12/2010 1:45:04 AM   
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Malaya
Will be very boring here, not modifying the initial assaults.

But airunits will be bought forward quickly, the 3rd Air Division is directed to Patani immediately. Netties will then be based out of here to close the straits.



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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/12/2010 1:47:06 AM   
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Philipines
The landings will be concentrated at Vigan, at least two additional divisions will be committed to here to take the place ASAP.

DEI
Manado will be taken early as a "cork in the bottle". But then there will be an operational pause.

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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/12/2010 1:51:33 AM   
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SWPAC
The 144th regt will take Guam then move to take Rabaul under cover of KB.

PM will be targeted, timing depends on if they reinforce or not.

SOPAC
Probably not much will happen here initially.

Fiji and Pago Pago will probably be raided.

CENTPAC
The invasion of Wake will be delayed and use KB in support.

Midway will be prepped for. Other attacks will occur as raids only.


The SOPAC/CENTPAC raids require a 2 div assault force with shipping to be maintained (Maybe at TRUK?).



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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/12/2010 1:57:12 AM   
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Logistics
A hub and spoke system will be setup. Initially TRUK and BABELDOAB.

Fuel will be sent laterally from the DEI to TRUK.

Many PB's are being created.


Production
With detail hopefully to follow from Tony... initial plans are:

More Zero, Kate, Val.

Oscars - lots. We intend to bleed ourselves and the enemy air hard. We aim to kill medium/heavy bombers wherever they are. Our planes and ships will be expended to achieve this aim. We are happy to rebuild our air units from scratch if needed in late 42/early 43.

We really haven't discussed ship options much, mny just end up being points for the Allies...

Armaments and AFV's need to be increased.



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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/12/2010 2:01:07 AM   
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Sequencing
KB will almost certainly raid for Day 2, with the main targets on day 2 being the airfields and minor vessels (wish sometimes we could set the ship size :(), rather than capital ships.

KB will then transition to support WAKE.

Refuel KWALJELON/TRUK.

Support landings at RABAUL.

Transit PM-DARWIN dishing out love.

Retire north.



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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/12/2010 4:39:52 AM   
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Subscribed. Welcome to the dark side. Will be very interested to see how you play as Japan.

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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/12/2010 11:08:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jrcar


Burma
It is important to make progress here early. The initial problem is a lack of troops, even an addition regiment can make a big difference, and armour is very important. We want to well and truely trash the forces in Burma...


...By going into Burma early we can cut off escape from Malaya, in particular the short legged aircraft, and reduce their flexibility to redeploy. The problem with doing it is that it encourages them to stay at home in India, whereas we really want them to deploy forward...

So I think the answer is to move as much to Bangkok as we can, then strike in a masive force. This means the initial offensive will be delayed a bit (hopefully encouraging them to commit), but when we do come it will be unstoppable... and over quickly and decisively.


That of course is a sensible plan but...

There is a great benefit in striking early at Rangoon, bypassing Tavoy etc. Capture Rangoon early, even if you then have to make an operational pause to await the second echelon before moving into the interior, and you stop the Allies from push/pulling substantial supplies into China.

Being able to launch early major offensives in China against starving Chinese units can overall reap more benefits than destroying the Burmese units with their limited replacement rates and slated 1942 withdrawal. It is a long march back to India for the weak Allied units in Burma and you do have other opportunities to catch them before they become useful roadblocks.

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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/13/2010 12:22:06 AM   
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quote:

I'm currently looking around to see where I can free up units. I have my eyes on the 21st Ind Bde at Hanoi. If I fly in some SNLF for the garrison from SAMAH I can free that bde up and move across country. This will save shipping. I'd also like to free up a regt out of Korea to commit here.


The 90th Rgt in Manchuria has experience level of 90. If your going to pull just one, this is the one I would go with.

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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/13/2010 2:31:25 AM   
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Thanks!

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I'm currently looking around to see where I can free up units. I have my eyes on the 21st Ind Bde at Hanoi. If I fly in some SNLF for the garrison from SAMAH I can free that bde up and move across country. This will save shipping. I'd also like to free up a regt out of Korea to commit here.


The 90th Rgt in Manchuria has experience level of 90. If your going to pull just one, this is the one I would go with.



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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/19/2010 9:46:33 PM   
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Ok after a false start (we are playing the game with test versions of BETA6, and we found an issue on day one, a pain for us but at least we found it before it went public!) we have done the first turn.

Overall combat results are quiet favorable for us.

We start well with a midget getting into PH...

Midget Sub attack inside harbor of Pearl Harbor!!!

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-18, heavy damage

Allied Ships
PC Taney
BB West Virginia, Torpedo hits


A TF sweeping the south China Sea reacts in against the Brit DD's

Day Time Surface Combat, near Kwangchowan at 74,64, Range 24,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Chokai
DD Fubuki, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Usugumo
DD Shirayuki
DD Hatsuyuki
DD Sagiri

Allied Ships
DD Scout, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Thanet, Shell hits 1
DD Thracian, Shell hits 21, and is sunk


Fubuki subsequently sinks.

The Important PH strike goes in...

Morning Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 136 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 45 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 68
B5N2 Kate x 144
D3A1 Val x 135



Allied aircraft
P-36A Mohawk x 1
P-40B Warhawk x 2


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed by flak
B5N2 Kate: 23 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 6 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 9 damaged
D3A1 Val: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
P-36A Mohawk: 1 damaged
P-36A Mohawk: 4 destroyed on ground
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 9 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 7 destroyed on ground
A-20A Havoc: 1 destroyed on ground
B-17D Fortress: 2 destroyed on ground
B-18A Bolo: 4 destroyed on ground
B-17E Fortress: 2 destroyed on ground
SBD-1 Dauntless: 3 destroyed on ground
O-47A: 2 destroyed on ground
C-33: 1 destroyed on ground
F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 destroyed on ground
R3D-2: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL Phoenix, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AV Tangier
AV Wright
xAKL Hirondelle
CM Oglala
BB California, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL Detroit, Torpedo hits 1
DM Gamble, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DM Ramsay, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, on fire
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2
CL St. Louis, Torpedo hits 1
AK Alchiba, Bomb hits 1, on fire
PT-22, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
DMS Perry, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Narwhal, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
DD Conyngham, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
PG Sacramento, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Airbase hits 26
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 180
Port hits 7
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1


None of the BB's are reported sunk, and no float planes are listed as lost, so while we have banged up the fleet nicely no capital ships appear lost. We did get a nice collection of smaller ships...

The rest of the turn is as you would expect with nothing out of the ordinary.

Cheers

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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/20/2010 9:17:05 PM   
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Forgot to mention we got the Boise :)

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Jolo at 73,91

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 8
B5N1 Kate x 12



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 7 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Boise, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage




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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/21/2010 3:24:39 AM   
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08 Dec 1941

Subs
Lots of action, fortunately the Allied subs largely miss... except for this one :(

Sub attack near Cam Ranh Bay at 62,77

Japanese Ships
xAK Giyu Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
xAKL Anbo Maru
APD Aoi

Allied Ships
SS O19

Japanese ground losses:
105 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Malaya
The landings continue as usual in Malya, Kota Bahru falls on the first attack. The enemy air is notably absant over North Malaya, we continue to strike the airfields to kill aircraft.

Over Singapore Zero's sweep Buffalo. Next turn Oscar are joining them.

We got a convoy loading at Georgetown... nice, ships and troops sunk :)

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Georgetown at 49,74

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 28



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Ellenga, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAP Kelantan
xAK Demosthenes, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Hong Siang, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
xAKL Nam Yong


Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



The forces are fleeing south, looks like they will hole up in Singapore. Once the arfield units arrive the bombardment of Singapore airfields will commence.

Philipines

Vigan fell last turn to airbourne assault, the troops land next turn.

Our Netties strike at fleeing shipping, but we loose a number :(

Morning Air attack on TF, near Calapan at 78,79

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 18



Allied aircraft
P-26A x 4
P-35A x 6
P-40B Warhawk x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 18


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged


Allied Ships
PG Asheville
xAK Yu Sang
xAP President Madison

Morning Air attack on TF, near Calapan at 78,79

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
G4M1 Betty x 26



Allied aircraft
P-26A x 2
P-35A x 8
P-40B Warhawk x 5
P-40E Warhawk x 22


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 1 destroyed
P-35A: 1 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
PG Tulsa, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Yu Sang
xAK Si Kiang, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
PG Asheville
xAP President Madison, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
xAK Tantalus


Allied ground losses:
701 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 149 destroyed, 33 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 53 (52 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Morning Air attack on TF, near Sibuyan at 80,82

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
PG Isabel, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Rochambeau, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk


Allied ground losses:
383 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 44 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 13 (11 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Morning Air attack on TF, near Calapan at 78,79

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 23



Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-35A x 5
P-40B Warhawk x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 16


Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 7 destroyed, 4 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak


Allied Ships
xAK Yu Sang
xAP President Madison, on fire, heavy damage


CENTPAC
During the night the enemy sortie to good effect. Tony had created a SCTF, and the CV unit was set to "follow", but the enemy slipped past the SCTF and engade the CV force regardless... quite exciting! Soryu has 6 points of system damage and 3 of engine damage.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 180,105, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CV Kaga, Shell hits 1
CV Hiryu
CV Soryu, Shell hits 2, on fire
CV Shokaku
CV Zuikaku
CV Akagi
BB Kirishima
CL Abukuma
DD Akigumo
DD Kagero
DD Urakaze
DD Hamakaze
DD Tanikaze
DD Arare
DD Kasumi
DD Sazanami
DD Ushio

Allied Ships
CL Raleigh
CL Helena
CL Honolulu, Shell hits 4
DD Cummings, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Tucker, Shell hits 1
DD Cassin
DD Downes
DD Farragut
DD Dewey
DD Worden, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Dale


Instead of hitting PH from close range the CV force retires and a 8 hex strike goes in, and isn't that effective...

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Afternoon Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 146 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 62 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 35
B5N2 Kate x 123



Allied aircraft
P-36A Mohawk x 4
P-40B Warhawk x 15
F4F-3 Wildcat x 2


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed, 16 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 3 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Raleigh, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 4, heavy damage
CL Detroit, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DMS Boggs, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 8, heavy damage
DD Blue
CL Honolulu, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DD Cassin
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 4, heavy damage
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
CA Minneapolis, Bomb hits 2
BB California, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
AM Tern, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Helena
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 5, on fire
AD Whitney, Bomb hits 1
DMS Wasmuth, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AD Dobbin, Bomb hits 1, on fire


As you can see none of the enemy BB's have sunk :( But all are badly banged up. Getting the two AD's was nice.


China

They are pulling back, I am organising an assault.



Plans
We REALLY want to kill the aircraft at PH, KB will turn around and the kates will level bomb to avoid the FLAK. The main target is the medium and heavy bombers.

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An interesting choice of strategic priorities. I'll definitely be watching this AAR.

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Subs
Several unsuccesful attacks, including on the Manoora :( In general the Allies get the better of us this turn!

Submarine attack near Cam Ranh Bay at 64,73

Japanese Ships
xAKL Hachirogata Maru, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS O19

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Submarine attack near Kompong Trach at 56,71

Japanese Ships
xAK Hikosan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXVII

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Malaya
We continue to unload, the Armoured Units are begining to move out. It looks like they are pulling everything out of the north by rail/road and sea. We are intercepting the road/rail movements by air, and hitting the sea movements off Georgetown. A DaiTai of Nells are now operating out of Kota Bahru and the air HQ should be fuly unloaded there over the next turn. We continue to sweep Singapore, losses are well in our favour, and another unit of Oscar have just arrived to help out. We get 23 Buffalo for the loss of 2 Oscar and 4 Zero.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Georgetown at 49,74

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 13



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAP Hong Siang, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Nam Yong, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Kelantan
xAK Wing Sang, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk


Allied ground losses:
423 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 20 destroyed, 30 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (9 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 15 (10 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 18



Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 13


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ia Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed


DEI
A series of naval engagements sees only light damage but a claimed sinking. The Rhuyo sorties its aircraft against a DD for no Damage. The invasion force for Miri should land next turn. Ternate and Manado landings should also happen.

Day Time Surface Combat, near Miri at 64,81, Range 15,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Kashii
CL Isuzu
E Shimushu
E Saga
TB Kari

Allied Ships
DD Thanet, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk


Philipines

A CA TF sweeps through the southern Phillipines:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Roxas at 79,82, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Ashigara
CL Kuma
DD Yamagumo
DD Asakaze
DD Matsukaze
DD Tachikaze

Allied Ships
PG Asheville, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Yu Sang

Day Time Surface Combat, near Roxas at 79,83, Range 18,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Ashigara
CL Kuma
DD Yamagumo
DD Asakaze
DD Matsukaze
DD Tachikaze

Allied Ships
xAK Yu Sang, Shell hits 17, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk


Allied ground losses:
369 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 30 destroyed, 38 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 39 (30 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Day Time Surface Combat, near Roxas at 79,83, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Ashigara
CL Kuma
DD Yamagumo
DD Asakaze
DD Matsukaze
DD Tachikaze

Allied Ships
xAK Capillo, Shell hits 17, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Ethel Edwards, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Tantalus, Shell hits 18, and is sunk


Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 16 (12 destroyed, 4 disabled)


PACIFIC
KB strikes for a third day, and wards off some counter attacks. Our aircraft losses are high, but pilot losses are low (due to subs and DD's in the area?). KB is at about 50% aircraft wise, but 90% pilot wise. The aim of killing more US aircarft is not effective through bombing, but having them attack is effective :)

Afternoon Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 164 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 61 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 46
B5N2 Kate x 91
D3A1 Val x 129



Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-36A Mohawk x 16
P-40B Warhawk x 30
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1
SNJ-3 Texan x 1


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed, 11 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 5 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 5 destroyed, 46 damaged
D3A1 Val: 24 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
P-36A Mohawk: 3 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
CA San Francisco
PT-20
PT-27
PT-42
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
PT-29
DD Selfridge
PT-25
BB Tennessee, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
PT-26
BB Pennsylvania, Torpedo hits 1



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 15
Port hits 3

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Lihue at 178,102

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 158 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 38



Allied aircraft
A-20A Havoc x 9
P-36A Mohawk x 10


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-20A Havoc: 1 destroyed
P-36A Mohawk: 2 destroyed

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Lihue at 178,102

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 74 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 48



Allied aircraft
P-40B Warhawk x 21
SBD-1 Dauntless x 12


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Warhawk: 5 destroyed
SBD-1 Dauntless: 2 destroyed


China
Kwangchowan (the Free French Port) falls. 2 SNLF will now advance on Pakhoi to clear out the south.

We bombard at Hong Kong, waiting for another Regiment to arrive, then we will shock attack.

Many ships still in port... or were!

Morning Air attack on Hong Kong , at 77,61

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 16



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Hai Lee, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Bennevis, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Chengtu, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAKL Yat Shing, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Halldor, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Haraldsvang, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Ming Sang, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Soochow, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Kanchow, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires


Overall Results

Generally, apart from the KB attack, I'm happy (Tony is a Grognard, and by definition is never happy).

I was expecting more damage from KB on the airfields, flak looks to have been murderous.

Cheers
Rob

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Our subs are headsing south towards Java.

The enemy is pulling back, we are reconnoning heavily to deterime where their MLR prior to Singapore will be. The tank units are moving out, the rest is in strat mode ready to push forward in mass.

Miri invasion force, supporte by a small SCTF is in bound. The Kuching invasion force is waiting for SCTF cover. It should begin its move in next turn.





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DEI/South Philipines

The Ryujo has been pretty ineffective... well it got Boise last turn after two attacks...

The SCTF has had fun.




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RE: Aussies v Aussies - Clubbing baby seals (no AOFFEN ... - 12/25/2010 2:05:13 AM   
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Merry Xmas, the war continues!

10 Dec 1941

Subs
Our subs really get going :)

Submarine attack near Billiton at 52,92

Japanese Ships
SS I-157

Allied Ships
TK Semiramis, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Submarine attack near Singkawang at 56,87

Japanese Ships
SS I-165

Allied Ships
AMC Manoora, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Submarine attack near Toboali at 51,93

Japanese Ships
SS I-164

Allied Ships
TK Iris, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Submarine attack near Lingga at 51,88

Japanese Ships
SS I-121

Allied Ships
xAP Dominion Monarch
Miss sod it!

Submarine attack near Toboali at 51,94

Japanese Ships
SS I-157

Allied Ships
xAP Kedah, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage



They also get in on the act

Submarine attack near Kota Bharu at 54,74

Japanese Ships
xAK Gokoku Maru #2, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXVII


This was also interesting...were they mining Cam Ranh Bay? Sending out a coastal minesweeper to find out...


TF 212 encounters mine field at Cam Ranh Bay (64,72)

Allied Ships
SS Spearfish, Mine hits 1, on fire
SS Saury, Mine hits 1



Malaya
No real change. Our airstrikes are very uncoordinated due to over stacking. As a consequence we loose some unescorted Sally. All the indications continue to be they are pulling out to the south. Interestingly the ships we hit south of Singapore weren't carrying troops, so it looks like they will try to fight it out in Singapore to delay us...

DEI
We start unloading at Miri. Kuching is next.

We land at Ternate, Manado next turn. we hit fleeing shipping :)

Night Time Surface Combat, near Dinagat at 81,87, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Ashigara
CL Kuma
DD Yamagumo
DD Asakaze
DD Matsukaze
DD Tachikaze

Allied Ships
AO Pecos, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Morning Air attack on TF, near Gebe at 80,104

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 12



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
xAP Neptuna, Bomb hits 8, and is sunk


Allied ground losses:
243 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 20 destroyed, 45 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (4 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 5000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAP Neptuna

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ternate at 77,102

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 8
B5N1 Kate x 12



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AS Holland, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage


Philipines
We clear mines at Vigan, the main force is unloading. It looks like they are going for a Clark defence.

We intend to land at Naga in two turns time.

PACIFIC

KB retires to support the Wake invasion.


CHINA
Hong Kong will be shock attacked next turn.

Forces are moving into position nicely.

Home Islands
Begining to ship resources and set up convoys. Aircraft are going on ASW missions. More detail in a few turns once we have our heads around it.


Have begun to move top Pilots into training command to help train.

Cheers

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Subs
Again ours do good:)

Submarine attack near Oosthaven at 49,96

Japanese Ships
SS I-164

Allied Ships
TK Manvantara, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Submarine attack near Singkawang at 53,87

Japanese Ships
SS I-154

Allied Ships
AMC Manoora, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage (thats 2 now)

Submarine attack near Lubang at 78,78

Japanese Ships
SS I-123

Allied Ships
xAKL Sagoland, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage

Submarine attack near Calapan at 78,79

Japanese Ships
SS I-124

Allied Ships
xAKL Princess of Negros, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage

Submarine attack near Lubang at 78,78

Japanese Ships
SS I-123

Allied Ships
xAKL Don Jose, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage


Malaya/Thailand
We march, and bomb troops. One more turn then the aerial bombardment of Singapore begins.

Next turn we should be at Alor Star.

We attack Victoria point in the next turn.

We sink 4 HDML in Georgetown.

Our airbase are almost in position against Burma.

They have mined Cam Ranh Bay, we are sweeping the mines. A minor annoyance.

Our Betties are hurt attacking a ship :(

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 52,55

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 2 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 13



Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 2
Buffalo I x 3


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged


Allied Ships
xAKL Hermelin, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk


DEI
We attack at Miri next turn

We attack at Kuching next turn.

We land at Manado.

We take Ternate.

We take Sorong.

A fleeing enemy AS is detected just north of Miri, three SCTF will sweep the area to attampt to catch it. We have sunk one AS, and hit another with search aircraft of Ambon, this is the third.

Off Manado-Sorong our Naval forces get some more practice.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Talaud-eilanden at 81,96, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Ashigara, Shell hits 2
CL Kuma
DD Yamagumo
DD Asakaze
DD Matsukaze
DD Tachikaze (colides with a CA and is badly damaged, limping to Babeldoab)

Allied Ships
TK Gertrude Kellogg, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
Day Time Surface Combat, near Gebe at 81,104, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Ashigara
CL Kuma
DD Yamagumo
DD Asakaze
DD Matsukaze

Allied Ships
xAKL Luzon, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
xAKL Magallanes, Shell hits 19, and is sunk


Our CVL does good too:

Morning Air attack on TF, near Gebe at 81,105

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 5 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 12



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
TK Manatawny, Bomb hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Ravnaas, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage


Philipines
We continue to unload at Vigan.

We take Naga via airbourne assault, the main force begins unloading next turn.

Otherwise quiet.

Pacific
We land at Guam.

KB is moving towards Wake.

China

We sink a number of ships in Hong Kong.

The ground attack at Hong Kong goes in at 2:1 and droops the forts by one.

Forces are begining to assemble for the main assaults. We need more supplies in the north.

Home Islands
Lots of PB's being created, also some AG's (I think they fight better against subs).

Convoy's are begining.

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Subs
Sub attack near Laoag at 80,71

Japanese Ships
PB Kyo Maru #2
xAP Kongo Maru
xAK Argun Maru
xAK Tamon Maru
PB Seki Maru #3
PB Shonan Maru #17

Allied Ships
SS Porpoise

That was it! big change from last turn...

Malaya/Burma
We have now isolated the enemy in North Malaya the units in Alor Star are cut off.

The third wave are now unloading.

Victoria Point is taken.

DEI
Kuching, Miri and Madang are taken.

We find both the AS and the Langly with SCTF at sea, but somehow they escape :(

Morning Air attack on TF, near Gorong at 81,111

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 8
B5N1 Kate x 12



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Governor Wright, Bomb hits 8, and is sunk
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Boela at 80,110

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 8
B5N1 Kate x 12



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AVD Childs, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage


China
Hong Kong Falls. The units will move to the Philipines.

Overall fairly quiet.

Cheers

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Malaya 13 Dec

As you can see they are moving everything south ASAP. Looks like they intend to delay at Johore Bharu.

I'm turing to clean up Alor Star and will then advance, looks like they won't even leave a rearguard/delay force...

They have abandoned Kuantan, We will paradrop some forces in.

Mersing has now been abandoned.

The aerial bombardment of Singapore begins next turn...






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