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New Scen - Return to Wake - 11/30/2010 11:55:23 PM   
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OK another draft of a new scenario

Very small one try it and see how you get on either side is playable....



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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 12/1/2010 12:02:48 AM   
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ps same drill feedback wlcome

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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 12/1/2010 1:15:27 AM   
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Andy -

For those of us who don't usually mod or test mods, can you give instructions as to where the files in your zip directory should go?

Thanks -

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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 12/1/2010 2:03:23 AM   
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They go in the SCEN folder.

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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 12/1/2010 3:25:19 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: rjopel

They go in the SCEN folder.


Great - thanks!

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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 12/1/2010 9:17:06 AM   
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Gday Andy,

Ran this through to 6 Feb 42. as Allies. (I'll try to hid some detail to keep up the suspense)

I beefed up the original Allied CV TF's with a few Ca/CL & DD's.

My plan was to land 8th Marines, 1st Marine Raiders, 2ns Marine Engineers, 4th & 5th Marine Defense Bns & 34th Combat Engineers, approx 15,000 men. (Never use a hammer if a 20lb sledgehammer is available!)

The TF's were plotted to move north of Midway, across to a point NW of Wake and then down to Wake.

I got through the IJN SS pickets around French Frigate/Laysan without any attacks. All proceeded quietly until I was approx 300 miles NW of Wake when I was attacked by IJN Carrier aircraft (At no time did I see any IJN TF's)  My F4F-3 & F2 Buffs managed to knock down a good % of the attackers with only a torp into Portland 18sys/20flot and a bomb on Enterprise which must have boubced off the timber flight deck.

Next day saw another IJN strike from the opposite direction!  I thought about aborting but it also got beaten off.

My small bombardment TF (1 CA & 2 CL) scared the Wake garrison on D-1 and on DDay my CV DB & TB gave them another pasting. (I held them back on Naval attack, just in case, but the coast seemed clear)

My amphib force took 2 days to clear the atoll, I took a hit because my force was only partially prepped but I'm sure Mr Deveraux didnt want to wait another 2 mths.

Nothing much happened after this, daily Nell raids started after 1/2/42 and I spent most of my time evacuating 8th Marines, 2nd Marine Engineers & 34th Combat Engineers.

I feel this scenario could be a great learning tool for newbies. Low density but involves the organising of various TF's, setting up search patterns and reloading a disembarked force.

VPs   Allies 363   IJN 57

Air losses
Kate     33
Val       19
Nell      16   mostly Ops losses
F2 Buff 16
PBY5     14  mostly Ops losses
F4F-3    13
Zeke     10
Seagull    2
PBY4       2
SBD-1      1

Of 116 total losses, 33 wee Ops losses incurred in the long range naval searches by both sides.

Andy, I hope the AI has a lot of variety for force size and direction of attack, I was surprised when the IJN attack came in.

Maybe an AI tweak, after attacking me and retreating to Roi/Namur the IJN CV built up their aircraft numbers but just sat there and didnt attempt a second attack on the USN which was depleting its Aircraft numbers and AA ammo.

Good fun scenario.



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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 12/1/2010 11:43:06 AM   
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Thanks Jeff I will have a play to try and get some variety into the scenario

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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 12/2/2010 6:49:39 PM   
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For all of your "New Scen" scenario threads (this one for Wake, the one for Burma, and any future ones), would it be possible for you to edit the very first message in each thread, updating the link to the latest and greatest scenario version?

As the threads grow in length, it's not always easy wading through potentially dozens of messages to find the latest updates. Linking to the latest update in the original message makes it a no-brainer.

Whatever, thanks as always for the new scenario development!

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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 12/3/2010 8:38:37 PM   
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Played as allies to 3 Feb? The Japanese ships sat in Namor-Roi the whole time while I sat 1 hex to the west of Wake. The Nell's came to visit a couple of times until I shot them all down. The Betty's did not seem to do anything either.

More short scenarios like this one, are very appreciated by people like me that need a couple short training scenarios to get in the swing of things. Thanks for all your and effort.

Question. Was the HMS Warspite really in Pearl Harbor during this time frame and I believe the Enterprise group was acting a distant backstop for this operation but is not included?? Just wondering and thanks again.

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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 12/3/2010 11:30:55 PM   
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k i will have a play and redo the Ai

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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 12/4/2010 2:34:20 PM   
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I played it again for grins. What happened is the Americans showed up after the Japanese CV task force left wake and was 1 day out of Namar-Roi and it never left port after that. The weather was very bad over my taskforces and I was shooting down search planes left and right. So maybe it was a DL issue.

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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake v2 - 12/4/2010 3:39:45 PM   
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v2 now in first post with revised AI

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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake v2 - 7/1/2011 3:42:36 PM   
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Did anyone paly this one v the V2 AI - feedback appreciated

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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake v2 - 7/2/2011 12:05:10 PM   
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First - thanks for doing these small scenarios. Looking forward to the 42 start scenario with AI.

Will try this one (Wake) over the weekend and try to give feedback.

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Completed- Return to Wake v2 as the Allies - 7/4/2011 6:48:05 PM   
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Nice little scenario. Good chance to execute a small amphibious operation supported by Carrier Task Forces. Some resupply (Midway, Johnston Is), some ASW, some transfer of squadrons, a few SS patrols around Wake Is. All fun and good experience for players like me who shy away from the grand campaign.

Loaded up the 8th Marine Reg and 1st Marine Raider Batt. Landed at Wake Is (The Radio broadcast by Auburn Ann was worth the whole price of admission). Carrier DB's softenned up the ground forces there and the Marines had no trouble recapturing the Island. Immediately sent an AV to the Island and transferred VP 24 with PBY-5 Catalinas for patrol coverage of the neighboring ocean.

Lost the AG Spica to a Japanese I Boat on the return trip to Pearl Harbor.

Nells bombed Wake Is. almost daily so loaded up the 251 Cst AA Regt and the 119 USAAF Base Force to bring Wake Is some AA defense and allow the basing of some F2A-3 Buffalos.

Landed the reinforcements with some harrasement by Nells but unescorted they fell easy prey to the Fighter Jocks. Transferred VMF-221 comprised of Buffalos to Wake Island, via Midway, for air defense.

End of scenario: Allies 183 Japanese 39 Decisive Allied Victory (All told 58 Nells shot down)

I noticed some Japanes CV's at the port but they never sortied.

Enjoyed!!!!

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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 7/10/2011 2:17:02 AM   
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bump...

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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 7/10/2011 7:39:13 PM   
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has anyone else not seen the AI use its carriers as Japan in this scen ?

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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 7/10/2011 11:17:34 PM   
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I ran it today. My forces ran into them near wake. They got the drop but I was lucky between bad weather and lucky rolls nothing hit. Over the next two days we had a running fight and finally I got lucky and put a few bombs and a torp into each of their carriers. The AI retired and I took the island back.



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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 7/10/2011 11:36:50 PM   
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ok good thanks so they are not always passive

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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 7/21/2011 9:45:18 AM   
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Do you need to add fuel at Roi-Namur??
My mini KB was set to go to R-N and there is no fuel.


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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 12/24/2011 7:42:41 PM   
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Bumping this to recover the scen files post my meltdown

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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 4/24/2012 6:56:17 PM   
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Bump for new folks looking for a simple scen

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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 7/4/2013 8:05:52 PM   
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I think I will give this a try today.
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Interesting. Unless I did something wrong I had to drop the Warspite so I could dock and load troops. Added her back after everything was loaded and she did a great job leading the TF.

A large US bombardment (consisting of all the CL's at PH) group ran into the Japanese CV's just SE of Wake and a running battle broke out that actually closed to 8000 yards. The Hiryu took 11 hits and forced the Japanese CV's to retire. Unfortunately when I sent the US CV's in to finish them off the Japanese got off a max range attack and damaged the Lex who sunk on the way home.

The Marines were able to take Wake back and that was that. Nice short scenario, thank you.

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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 7/5/2013 4:56:22 AM   
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Had some time so tried this again. This time the Japanese CV's got the drop on me and sank the Lex at the cost of the Hiryu being slightly damaged. As the Japanese withdrew they once again were caught in a running surface battle with the Hiryu taking several more hits causing the TF to withdraw.

The Marines hit the beach at took Wake back with some difficulty due to a few transport losses. Alas the loss of the Lex caused the Allies to lose on points.

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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 7/5/2013 7:10:41 PM   
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desicat -

After playing a campaign scenario or one of the larger non campaign scenarios, "Return to Wake" is a lot of fun, because it moves so quickly. I used this scenario (as the Japanese) to experiment with AR / AD and many other auxiliary types - just to sandbox and see who does what and how it all works.

Hope that you enjoy Return to Midway as much as I have.

Mac

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RE: New Scen - Return to Wake - 7/9/2013 11:07:10 AM   
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marginal victory as japanese player.

i sunk saratoga and repeled several invasions. they land very few troops and where wiped put next day, no mass landing,

they sunk my 2 cv, put a defensive submarine screen and use my BB and CL and DD to patrol vicinity and sink enemy troop ships.

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