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RE: Life Without Computer Games - 11/22/2010 3:35:42 PM   
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Much better.


Your life is much better now with them or would be much better without?


Yes.

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RE: Life Without Computer Games - 11/22/2010 3:48:04 PM   
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Teen years, get a license, get a car, want to drive everywhere all the time.

20s, married with children, wife is bored at home, on the go all the time.

30s wonder why older people just stay home, on the go on weekends.

40s wonder why we don't go anywhere anymore.

50s stay home, dread driving, can't stand TV, why are those kids in my yard?...


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RE: Life Without Computer Games - 11/22/2010 4:00:57 PM   
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Let me answer this just as a gamer, from before this also became my job. Gaming is part of my life, it's my favorite hobby. Without computer games, I would end up gaming a lot less and having less of a chance to do something you really enjoy is not a good thing. It's also great mental exercise - after a good wargame, whether on the computer on on the tabletop, I feel that my mind has had a great workout. For all that sitting at a computer too much is not good for our physical health, there are also studies showing that playing these kinds of games helps keep you mentally sharp at an older age, so there are trade-offs. I'd advise regular exercise and sunshine, some red wine and plenty of gaming for the best mix.

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RE: Life Without Computer Games - 11/22/2010 5:00:42 PM   
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Teen years, get a license, get a car, want to drive everywhere all the time.

20s, married with children, wife is bored at home, on the go all the time.

30s wonder why older people just stay home, on the go on weekends.

40s wonder why we don't go anywhere anymore.

50s stay home, dread driving, can't stand TV, why are those kids in my yard?...




I love you man, such words of wisdom...

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RE: Life Without Computer Games - 11/22/2010 5:54:31 PM   
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AH yes computer games....for me its a mind exerciser as reccommended to avoid dementia, now what was it I wanted to say ????

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RE: Life Without Computer Games - 11/22/2010 6:33:47 PM   
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Hey, Hey, You Kids, get the !@#$ out of my yard. Now where was I, oh yeah, working on learning WITP, dang forums taking up all my spare time posting. Yeah, that's the ticket, just keep posting and I don't have to figure out that dang game. Now what game was I playing? Ahhh the heck with it, I'm going to go clean my dentures.

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RE: Life Without Computer Games - 11/22/2010 6:39:12 PM   
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I would be boardgaming alot more, and reading more books. Which is precisely what I did before I bought my first computer. Would I prefer it that way? Not really. I enjoy what a computer can offer as a entertainment medium irrespective of its utility for non entertainment purposes.

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RE: Life Without Computer Games - 11/22/2010 7:07:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Let me answer this just as a gamer, from before this also became my job. Gaming is part of my life, it's my favorite hobby. Without computer games, I would end up gaming a lot less and having less of a chance to do something you really enjoy is not a good thing. It's also great mental exercise - after a good wargame, whether on the computer on on the tabletop, I feel that my mind has had a great workout. For all that sitting at a computer too much is not good for our physical health, there are also studies showing that playing these kinds of games helps keep you mentally sharp at an older age, so there are trade-offs. I'd advise regular exercise and sunshine, some red wine and plenty of gaming for the best mix.

Regards,

- Erik


Erik why don't you contact local gyms in everybodys home towns and tell them you'll offer free advertising in your games if they will offer a 1 day free pass to their gyms?

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RE: Life Without Computer Games - 11/22/2010 8:04:02 PM   
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In my case, i will certainly be reading a lot more books than now! (Well, not having Internet will also help in this regard )
Better, worse... not sure really...

Computer games inspire me to read more, and reading more inspires me to play more games. They reinforce each other.

What do I give up? TV for one thing. I don't ever watch TV. What else do I give up? Music practice. That's a real regret.

On balance, though, computer games are good for me. They are more worthwhile than a 1,000 other possible time wasters. They are a form of relaxation. As a workaholic, I need every excuse to relax.

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RE: Life Without Computer Games - 11/22/2010 8:11:08 PM   
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Racing Cars, ridding Motorcycles, Camping reading more and playing very little board games.

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RE: Life Without Computer Games - 11/22/2010 9:13:39 PM   
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The one problem I see with gaming is that it outshines formerly leisure occupations. Virtual worlds can create higer tension curves than real live equivalents and it's more entertaining to dig into a game than talking with your spouse about relationship or kids while watching tv. Once you're addicted to this hobby, you won't make it back to a previous state as everything else feels just bland. However, it's a perfect way to spend time for singles with low rl commitments.

If not busy with working at pc, I play or read books and without video games I would hang out in bars most nights. As trade-off for sitting on the desk all day I work out at gym few times a week. The latter one I probably wouldn't do if I had to operate at full capacity between office and family.


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RE: Life Without Computer Games - 11/22/2010 10:43:20 PM   
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What would our current lives be like without computer games? Better or worse? Computer games are undoubtably a mixed blessing. They can be addictive and therefore harmful and they can be entertaining and joyful. But overall, would your life be better or worse without them?

Warspite1

Thought provoking question Gary Childress.

I think if there were no computer games, those of us that grew up playing board games would probably carry on doing that, until the first of: stopping because they no longer interest us, or stopping because our lives/circumstances have changed. In my case its the latter. Now with a family, limited room in the house and with even more limited free time, I doubt if I could carry on playing the war games I loved playing and testing out new ones. World In Flames for example is i.m.o the best game ever, but is a huge commitment in time and space - impossible now sadly. But having a computer and access to such games has enabled me to continue this passion for wargaming - I just need Matrix to get MWIF finished before I drop off this mortal coil .

Have they made life better? Well I guess that because I have been able to continue something I always enjoyed thanks to
computer games being around, then yes that's good, but maybe something else would have come along - who knows?

I certainly feel a tinge of guilt sometimes when I look back and see just how much time has been spent on a game; could I have put that effort, that energy into something more productive? I think that can be a problem when a game comes along that really, really grips you - like my first computer game, Desert Rats for the old Spectrum computer, and later Civ II and later still - and to a lesser extent - Rome Total War. But that feeling of guilt does not last long - I know plenty of women that are widows to their partner's golf, football, fishing or whatever..

In summary, I believe they have been - and hopefully will continue to be - a good thing, complementing my passion for history generally and military history in particular.


Thought-provoking indeed. I'd have to say this reflects my own feeling pretty accurately. It's hard to frown on something that provides so much enjoyment and healthy 'flow', and gaming has certainly been a big part of my interest in historical, military and world-political affairs. I first played a Napoleonic figurine game informally when I was about 16 and now, thirty-odd years later - and after many twists and turns along the way - I teach world politics and security at the local university. So perhaps it's been pretty productive after all.

As for computers and online games, I reckon it's just about all positive. I didn't play games for years because of the difficulty of persuading anyone I knew, or even myself for that matter, to invest the time and effort; I'm not much of a club-joiner. Now I have access to a huge pool of like-minded obsessives, I don't have to travel and cart equipment around, or agonise about remembering names and chit-chat. And the games are amazing and relatively cheap. You don't have to look up rules all the time, for example.

However, as Warspite says, I often wonder what I would have now if I'd devoted all that time to writing or painting or learning another language or practicing the guitar or any of a million other things. But I guess you could say that about a lot of stuff we do. There's no obligation to fulfill every potential.

And you get to participate in fascinating discussions like this one.



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RE: Life Without Computer Games - 11/22/2010 10:56:54 PM   
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"Computer games inspire me to read more, and reading more inspires me to play more games. They reinforce each other."

I've been reading Polybius' near-contemporary accout of the first two Punic Wars, and man, if that doesn't line up alongside anything Robert Ludlum or Tom Clancy ever came up with for tense and gripping narrative entertainment value, I'm a horse's behind! (Er... )
Scipio and Hannibal, after years of strategic maneouvreing, riding out to meet and have a chat on the plain, just the two of them between their two fabulous armies, drawn up to fight it out in one of the closest and most significant battles of history (whose name escapes me...). What a moment! I just long to be one of those guys.

Edit: It was the Battle of Zama, fought near Carthage in 202 BC. The Romans won.



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RE: Life Without Computer Games - 11/22/2010 11:16:02 PM   
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Conclusion; Life without computer wargames is futile.  

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RE: Life Without Computer Games - 11/23/2010 1:50:54 AM   
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What would our current lives be like without computer games? Better or worse? Computer games are undoubtably a mixed blessing. They can be addictive and therefore harmful and they can be entertaining and joyful. But overall, would your life be better or worse without them?....

My life would be a lot more boring without computer games. I would definitely be reading a lot more. I might even buy a car after having given up the luxury of one for over ten years.

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RE: Life Without Computer Games - 11/23/2010 2:43:51 AM   
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I'm generally positive about the effect of computer wargames:
1. Relive and learn more about history
2. Appreciate the sacrifice of those on both sides of a war
3. Really a cheap hobby, compared to boating, fishing, drinking, eating out, audio, women, cars, planes, etc.
4. Interactive, especially MP and forums

I am not so positive about digital downloads:
1. Satisfies need for instant gratification--a real problem for me
2. You buy way more than you would if you had to go to the gaming shop
3. More games means less time for important things like family, worship, etc.

But if you are disciplined (I'm trying), then it's all good. Plus, we gotta keep Matrix folks in business.


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