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RE: Greatest Ships of WW2 - Revisited - 10/27/2010 2:06:26 PM   
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No votes for the USS Reluctant?  



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RE: Greatest Ships of WW2 - Revisited - 10/27/2010 10:34:54 PM   
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So HMS Warspite, USS Enterprise and USS Saratoga are the clear favourites for those that should have been saved - good choices all three.

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RE: Greatest Ships of WW2 - Revisited - 10/28/2010 8:52:47 AM   
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Probably also Prinz Eugen. Was every where from the Axis view point (Europe) but probably not a very PC choice

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RE: Greatest Ships of WW2 - Revisited - 10/28/2010 2:41:49 PM   
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Warspite or Saratoga.



One of the Kirishima class BB's might have been nice,(for a museum piece.)




(A perfect collection is still at Bikini, but some "repairs" might be needed?)



Actually until the worldwide economy crash you were able to SCUBA dive the wrecks at Bikini. Once the world economy settles, I hope that they will reopen the site.

http://www.bikiniatoll.com/divetour1.html


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RE: Greatest Ships of WW2 - Revisited - 10/28/2010 4:12:56 PM   
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So HMS Warspite, USS Enterprise and USS Saratoga are the clear favourites for those that should have been saved - good choices all three.



I understand Warspite and Enterprise..., but Saratoga was a bit of a "Yard Queen" during the war. I'd love to have seen dozens of ships preserved..., but given the costs of mantainence made that impossible, Saratoga seems to me to be a couple of rungs below the other two on the "deserved to be saved" list.

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RE: Greatest Ships of WW2 - Revisited - 10/28/2010 8:10:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: trojan

Probably also Prinz Eugen. Was every where from the Axis view point (Europe) but probably not a very PC choice

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I don't think that's entirely true. She was not involved in any successful operations - except for the tactical victory that was Cerberus (although even that was a strategic defeat). She was not a lucky ship either.

Her first operation was Rheinubung with Bismarck, and although she detached from the battleship to continue a limited version of that operation, she soon had to return to France with engine trouble.

After Cerberus she tried a number of times to get to Norway - each attempt ending in failure and she took a torpedo for her trouble during one of the attempts.

After a period of training duty in the Baltic she only went back into frontline service only in 1944. She took part in operations to support the retreating German Army until the end of the war. During that period she almost sank the cruiser Leipzig after a collision between the two. A bit of an unhappy career really...

Nice looking ship though



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RE: Greatest Ships of WW2 - Revisited - 10/28/2010 8:22:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

So HMS Warspite, USS Enterprise and USS Saratoga are the clear favourites for those that should have been saved - good choices all three.



I understand Warspite and Enterprise..., but Saratoga was a bit of a "Yard Queen" during the war. I'd love to have seen dozens of ships preserved..., but given the costs of mantainence made that impossible, Saratoga seems to me to be a couple of rungs below the other two on the "deserved to be saved" list.

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Yes, all navies have them. I suspect our biggest "Yard Queen" was HMS Queen Elizabeth - she always seemed to miss out on the action.

She was the only ship of her class to miss the fleet encunter at Jutland - she was in the dockyard - and was in the same place when WWII began

She had not been in the Mediterranean that long when the Italians sunk her at anchor in Alexandria harbour and she required major dockyard time getting repairs in the US.

By the time she got to the Indian Ocean, the opportunities for action were somewhat limited. Another rather unhappy career for a ship built for war.

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RE: Greatest Ships of WW2 - Revisited - 10/30/2010 2:38:45 PM   
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