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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/18/2010 8:10:09 PM   
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In this case, one man is the tip of a gigantic iceberg that would rip the hull out of the flimsy craft carrying the handful of bedraggled, befuddled, bemused Kelly's Heroes fans. The movie reeks.

Shall we vote?


For a movie, it was entertaining. For anything other than pure fictional entertainment, it was not.

Then again, I think most of us are adult enough to realize that the whole plot of the European theatre was not a bank robbery.

Also, I can fully understand a WWII ETO Vet not liking it.

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/18/2010 8:32:34 PM   
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Well I would decide not to watch movies like Tora, Tora, Tora; they were expendable, in harm's way; etc all cause I have seen them so many times that I could almost watch them without sound and quote lines of all the players. That being said, for those you that want "From Here to Eternity"; which version do you want Burt Lancaster/Frankie/Donna Reed or the William Devane/Natalie Wood/Kim Bassinger version? I have seen both and let me tell you what thirty years differences tween two directing and producing styles can do to a good story.

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/18/2010 9:11:49 PM   
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Well I would decide not to watch movies like Tora, Tora, Tora; they were expendable, in harm's way; etc all cause I have seen them so many times that I could almost watch them without sound and quote lines of all the players. That being said, for those you that want "From Here to Eternity"; which version do you want Burt Lancaster/Frankie/Donna Reed or the William Devane/Natalie Wood/Kim Bassinger version? I have seen both and let me tell you what thirty years differences tween two directing and producing styles can do to a good story.


I'd pay to watch Burt eat a sandwich. (There are only a few actors I'd say that about. Walter Matthau at the height of his powers would be another.) You can't improve on perfection. Go with the original.

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/18/2010 9:27:49 PM   
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wow someone had to go and post in the forum topic about *film we don't speak* now its going to be on top for another week.

I hate you all!

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/18/2010 9:47:49 PM   
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Letters from Iwo Jima, hands down. The rest I'd have to think about. Haven't seen Tora Tora Tora yet, but it's on my to-do list.

Anyone seen Flying Tigers yet? The basic plot always seemed appealing but I don't know if the movie as such is any good.

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/18/2010 9:58:03 PM   
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In my opinion Tora Tora Tora is just a quality film

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/18/2010 11:34:25 PM   
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I can't believe no one mentioned Letters from Iwo Jima. If you haven't seen it yet, DO SO. It's very good, and almost flawless.

It would be my #1

EDIT: OK, two posts behind me, but that took awhile!

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/18/2010 11:40:03 PM   
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I can't believe no one mentioned Letters from Iwo Jima. If you haven't seen it yet, DO SO. It's very good, and almost flawless.

It would be my #1

EDIT: OK, two posts behind me, but that took awhile!


Look again, Brad. I mentioned it in my post, which was near the beginning.

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/18/2010 11:52:46 PM   
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I can't believe no one mentioned Letters from Iwo Jima. If you haven't seen it yet, DO SO. It's very good, and almost flawless.

It would be my #1

EDIT: OK, two posts behind me, but that took awhile!


Look again, Brad. I mentioned it in my post, which was near the beginning.

Beat you both on post #22

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/19/2010 12:50:04 AM   
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The "Merrill's Marauders" Movie gets a vote.

"30 Seconds over Tokyo" gets a vote.

"Objective Burma" gets a big NO vote.



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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/19/2010 1:06:52 AM   
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Since the film that shall not be mentioned was mentioned earlier. I got to thinking about if I was stuck on a Pacific island (or atoll) with only ten World War 2 Pacifc themed films to take with me, these would be my choices. THey are also in no particular order:

1. Pride of the Marines
2. King Rat
3. Air Force
3. Mister Roberts
4. Battle Cry
5. Attack Force Z
6. The Story of Dr. Wassell
7. The Gallant Hours
8. Torpedo Run
9. Salute to the Marines
10. Stand By For Action


Some of these are name brand, but most of these that I have chosen aren't seen that often anymore either on cable or on the store shelves.

Anyone else have some movies they would want to add to help purge the taint of the movie that shall not be named.


That's an interesting list and full of stuff new to me. I will have to check my Netflix queue.

The list of what I would take with me... The Best Years of Our Lives, Bridge Over the River Kwai, Sahara, Mr. Roberts, The Caine Mutiny, Twelve O'Clock High, Miracle of Morgan's Creek, maybe a few others.

Here's some Pacific specific stuff I haven't seen in ages, but it's what I grew up with when they still ran movies on TV or showed them in the basement of the church, and they should suit the purge urge, since they were all made during the war.

Bataan

Guadalcanal Diary

Flying Tigers

Wake Island

Air Force

Destination Tokyo

Gung Ho

The Fighting Sullivans

Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo



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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/19/2010 1:41:39 AM   
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Add "Thin Red line" and HBO's "The Pacific"

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/19/2010 1:50:33 AM   
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Bataan

Guadalcanal Diary

Flying Tigers

Wake Island

Air Force

Destination Tokyo

Gung Ho

The Fighting Sullivans

Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo





These older ones are very, very good!! Every one should see these - no Doubt!! Also, add "I Bombed Pearl Harbor" if you can find it. Don Bowen mentioned it to me and I was only able to get it on VHS, but it is very good. Alot of the scenes for the Japanese were used in the movie MIDWAY. Even the beginning of MIDWAY had scenes from "Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo".

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/19/2010 2:24:55 AM   
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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/19/2010 4:59:34 AM   
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Beat you both on post #22


Sorry, rt, I was number four.

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/19/2010 5:12:59 AM   
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" Windtalkers should be banned with the other film about Pearl Harbor... " +1.


Too bad about Windtalkers , an interesting topic.







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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/19/2010 5:17:54 AM   
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Not windtalkers the topic, but "Windtalkers" the movie

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/19/2010 5:34:43 AM   
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Not windtalkers the topic, but "Windtalkers" the movie


Agreed. That movie was poorly made. I wish someone would do the topic justice.

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/19/2010 6:18:44 AM   
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First off, from a pure entertainment point of view, Kelly's Heros is the greatest movie ever made.

As for WWII pacific movies, one people are over looking is PT109. Loved Cliff Robertson in that movie. The hoops they had to jump through to get that boat approved was good humor.

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/19/2010 6:33:21 AM   
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I think it's a Vietnam movie in a WW2 setting... 

They Were Expendable should be IMO on that list, too.


+1

(to both points. )


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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/19/2010 7:21:51 AM   
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I'd add "Kokoda" which came out a few years ago from Australia. You understand after why you don't want to fight in the jungle...

I see most of the Pacific films have been mentioned and they're all great, including the more "propagandish" ones made during the war. I'd add "Gung Ho" with Randolph Scott (about Carlson's raiders on Makin) made in 1943. I would also add two of my comic favorites with Cary Grant, "Operation Petticoat" and "Father Goose".

And yes, I find "Kelly's Heroes" a whopping fun yarn (so what if it couldn't really fit the WWII movie label even though they did their best to use real WWII equipment).

Oh, another Pacific one: "Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison"

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/19/2010 12:19:06 PM   
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How about To End All Wars?



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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/19/2010 1:31:15 PM   
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Grave of the fireflies

This masterpiece is not a traditional war movie, but it's japanese anime. It's about two siblings that survive Kobe fire bombing, and trying to cope in late war Japan when things are getting worse and worse.

Saddest movie ever. I mean ever.

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/19/2010 3:21:40 PM   
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Grave of the fireflies

This masterpiece is not a traditional war movie, but it's japanese anime. It's about two siblings that survive Kobe fire bombing, and trying to cope in late war Japan when things are getting worse and worse.

Saddest movie ever. I mean ever.



Well, I haven't seen this one, but it would have to go a far piece to be sadder than "Sophie's Choice."

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/19/2010 3:42:21 PM   
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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/19/2010 4:01:47 PM   
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How about To End All Wars?



Agreed, one of my favorite Pacific WW2 movies.. A notch below the Great Raid but right there with Letters, and a notch above The Thin Red Line IMO.


I'm surprised no one has mentioned Mchale's Navy Joins the Air Force thus far.

Given the time it was made I give Objective Burma high marks.

I haven't seen Empire of the Sun yet, can I get a 411 on it?

Thanks.

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/19/2010 5:07:50 PM   
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[biting but good-natured sarcasm on] Well, that explains it. So Kelly's Heroes was a Pacific Theater movie? I dadgum well knew that it didn't portray anything in Europe. [biting but good-natured sarcasm off]

Kelly's Heroes is not a WWII movie. It's a Vietnam movie. And a terrible one at that. I realize there's a solid subset of decent AE Matrix Forums folks that like this movie, but you guys just have scales over your eyes. One day those scales will fall from your eyes and you will be mortified that you had any good thought about this movie.

If I had to choose WWII Pacific-Theater movies, my list wood begin strong and quickly taper off, in this order: Mr. Roberts, Tora Tora Tora, Bridge over the River Kwai, the two modern Iwo Jima Movies, Midway (they really tried to do this one right), and that would be about it.

If anybody dares to list Thin Red Line or Windtalkers....


I would add In Harm's Way.

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/19/2010 5:47:08 PM   
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Grave of the fireflies

This masterpiece is not a traditional war movie, but it's japanese anime. It's about two siblings that survive Kobe fire bombing, and trying to cope in late war Japan when things are getting worse and worse.

Saddest movie ever. I mean ever.



Well, I haven't seen this one, but it would have to go a far piece to be sadder than "Sophie's Choice."


From a sadness scale 1-10, Sophie's Choice is about 6. Greave of the fireflies is 10. At least that's how I see it.

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/19/2010 5:49:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Puhis

Grave of the fireflies

This masterpiece is not a traditional war movie, but it's japanese anime. It's about two siblings that survive Kobe fire bombing, and trying to cope in late war Japan when things are getting worse and worse.

Saddest movie ever. I mean ever.



Well, I haven't seen this one, but it would have to go a far piece to be sadder than "Sophie's Choice."


From a sadness scale 1-10, Sophie's Choice is about 6. Greave of the fireflies is 10. At least that's how I see it.



Anime is a CARTOON, right? Sadder than Nazis making a mother choose which of her children will be murdered? That must be some animaiton there . . .

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RE: OT: A down and dirty top 10 or To help and purge th... - 10/20/2010 7:54:28 AM   
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How about To End All Wars?



Agreed, one of my favorite Pacific WW2 movies.. A notch below the Great Raid but right there with Letters, and a notch above The Thin Red Line IMO.


I'm surprised no one has mentioned Mchale's Navy Joins the Air Force thus far.

Given the time it was made I give Objective Burma high marks.

I haven't seen Empire of the Sun yet, can I get a 411 on it?

Thanks.


Objective Burma a great movie for its time, I suppose "Pearl Harbor" was as well.
From a movie review site
The strangest sequence (at least to modern viewers) has the paratroopers expressing horror and disgust at a vicious sneak attack by the Japanese-which occurs only a few reels after the Americans have staged an equally merciless attack on a Japanese unit! In England, Objective Burma was taken to task by newspaper journalist who felt that the Americans were unfairly taking full credit for the success of the Burmese campaign. The ensuing hue and cry compelled Warner Bros. to issue an apology, and to withhold the British release of the film until 1952, at which time it was accompanied by a lengthy prologue title extolling England's contribution to the Burma invasion.

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