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OT U.S. Forces rules for gunfights - 8/26/2010 5:57:31 PM   
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Saw this while looking around on the internet. I had never seen it so thought I would share.

U.S. Marine Corps rules for gunfighting:
1. Be courteous to everyone, friendly to no one.
2. Decide to be aggressive ENOUGH, quick ENOUGH.
3. Have a plan.
4. Have a back-up plan, because the first one probably won't work.
5. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
6. Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun whose caliber does not start with a "4."
7. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap. Life is expensive.
8. Move away from your attacker. Distance is your friend. (Lateral and diagonal movement are preferred.)
9. Use cover or concealment as much as possible.
10. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.
11. Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.
12. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.
13. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating or reloading.
14. Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.
15. And above all......don't drop your guard!


Navy SEALS rules for gunfighting:
1. Look very cool in the latest sunglasses.
2. Kill every living thing within view.
3. Return quickly to looking very cool in latest beach wear.
4. Check hair in mirror.


U.S. Army Rangers rules for gunfighting:
1. Walk in 50 miles wearing 75-pound pack while starving.
2. Locate individuals requiring killing.
3. Request permission via radio from "Higher" to perform killing.
4. Curse bitterly when mission is aborted.
5. Walk out 50 miles wearing a 75-pound pack while starving.


National Guard rules for gunfighting:
1. Select a new beret to wear.
2. Sew combat patch on right shoulder.
3. Reconsider the color of beret you decide to wear.


US Air Force rules for gunfighting:
1. Have a cocktail.
2. Adjust temperature on air-conditioner.
3. See what's on HBO.
4. Discuss definition of "gunfight."


Navy rules for gunfighting:
1. Go to sea.
2. Drink coffee.
3. Send in the Marines

Like I said, I never had seen it before but I've led a sheltered life.

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RE: OT U.S. Forces rules for gunfights - 8/26/2010 6:36:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Buck Beach

Saw this while looking around on the internet. I had never seen it so thought I would share.

U.S. Marine Corps rules for gunfighting:

14. Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.





I love that one!

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RE: OT U.S. Forces rules for gunfights - 8/26/2010 7:13:55 PM   
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Being Arty, we never got into that small-bore gunfight stuff much, so my fav would be:
1. Go to sea. (Get some more rounds)
2. Drink coffee. (Have a beer)
3. Send in the Marines (Or the AB, always shot a lot behind the AB)

But if the gomers ever got through the wire and over the berm, it would have to be:
7. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap. Life is expensive.

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RE: OT U.S. Forces rules for gunfights - 8/26/2010 7:32:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Buck Beach

Navy rules for gunfighting:
1. Go to sea.
2. Drink coffee.
3. Send in the Marines

Like I said, I never had seen it before but I've led a sheltered life.


Reminds me of the comment attributed to various NATO and other countries that "Your navy's army is bigger than ours. Your navy's army's air force is bigger than ours."

Thanks for sharing.

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RE: OT U.S. Forces rules for gunfights - 8/26/2010 9:26:23 PM   
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Hilarious.

You cant trust those damn Marines!

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RE: OT U.S. Forces rules for gunfights - 8/26/2010 10:57:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Central Blue


quote:

ORIGINAL: Buck Beach

Navy rules for gunfighting:
1. Go to sea.
2. Drink coffee.
3. Send in the Marines

Like I said, I never had seen it before but I've led a sheltered life.


Reminds me of the comment attributed to various NATO and other countries that "Your navy's army is bigger than ours. Your navy's army's air force is bigger than ours."

Thanks for sharing.


I remember hearing that when I was putting together a command and control system for the navy's army's air force. The Marines made up most of NORTHAG's air assets. NATO officers told me it was awe-inspiring to watch the USMC come ashore. And the Leningrad Front intended to advance down Norway, jump to Denmark, and take Hamburg at high tempo with that breathing on their neck?

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RE: OT U.S. Forces rules for gunfights - 8/26/2010 11:12:54 PM   
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Hilarious.

You cant trust those damn Marines!

Damn right!!! I know where Buck got the quote from. Seen it before and laughed just as loud then, as now. It was from a marine vet who spent some time in NoPac. Yeah, ok, a couple of them are a skoosh more contemporary, but what the hey. Just goes to show ...

You can't trust those damn marines!

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RE: OT U.S. Forces rules for gunfights - 8/27/2010 12:12:19 AM   
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Yes this was good for laughs and a little inner US Military rivalry. However, each and everyone of the members of these forces have and continue to represent the best America has and many from each have paid the ultimate sacrifice.

I always get a lump in my throat as I watch the photos of the most recently fallen shown at the end of the PBS Evening News Hour. I for one am not a religious man, but all of our servicemen and women deserve our utmost respect, honer, thanks and any benediction there is from any source.

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RE: OT U.S. Forces rules for gunfights - 8/27/2010 12:26:13 AM   
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Herwin,
Yeah but I doubt even they really thought they'd jump from Norway through Denmark into Northern Germany. I always figured that was just disinformation as the sheer logistics of that and timescale for that are lethal to the plan. Never mind the fact that I don't think the Baltic Fleet + Poles etc really would be able to fight through the German coastal defence forces and protect such a crossing. It isn't as though any of the bridges etc in the are would still have been standing after all and Norway to Denmark is just way too far to swim your "heavier than water armoured drowning box" aka BTR/BMP/MTLB.

So, was the NATO consensus that this wasn't just a maskirovka but actually something they really thought they could do in a timeframe sufficient to actually influence events on the Northern German plains? A Front might just about be able to make the push and leave enough forces to guard that hugely long coastline ( although I don't, even then see how they'd have avoided having their resupply convoys eaten alive by stay-behinds and SFORs ) but to do it in a timely fashion? I don't see it and I certainly don't see the Baltic Fleet and Poles having the forces to push through some sort of amphibious landing and the thought of pushing BMPs etc through those waters under their own power whilst under fire * shudder*. Nasty, nasty way to lose an MRD in an hour.

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RE: OT U.S. Forces rules for gunfights - 8/27/2010 2:03:08 AM   
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This is for those of us who like to visualize the differences.

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RE: OT U.S. Forces rules for gunfights - 8/27/2010 2:22:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DOCUP

This is for those of us who like to visualize the differences.


So where do I sign for the AirForce?

I have more than 2 brain cells :)

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RE: OT U.S. Forces rules for gunfights - 8/27/2010 2:26:54 AM   
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"heavier than water armoured drowning box"... Very funny!

I hated water crossings in the M113. Our phrase was "floats like a cork, burns like a match" and "don't believe the cork part."

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RE: OT U.S. Forces rules for gunfights - 8/27/2010 1:28:59 PM   
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I, too, like number 14.

When I was in the service, we poked a lot of fun at the gyrines, but there's no better sound than hearing "US Marines!" as someone kicks in the door to get your rear out of a bind.

We also poked a lot of fun at the Rangers. The rules for them above seem about right.

I didn't know the airforce had engagement rules. Are they still considered part of the military?

And T Rav? Amen brother! Those things floated like a damn rock, and burned like a ton of thermite in a pizza oven. (But, they were better than the M114.)

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RE: OT U.S. Forces rules for gunfights - 8/27/2010 5:53:09 PM   
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I enjoyed my time in the Air Force...  Liked the fact instead of "Yes Sir" to  charge that position from an officer it was "go get 'um tiger" to the officer.  We did like the Army however as they normally were tasked with protecting the base.  Not pretty when weapons were issued to rank and file Airman and one of the questions asked was "which end does the bullet come out of ?"  I know of two very negative episodes involving young Airman.  One relayed from folks involved and the other personally witnessed.  Some of the young folks when I was in didn't understand that sometimes your handed a weapon and told to hold the base perimeter.  Not all young folks but more than I was comfortable with.  One of the reasons I chose to retire.

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RE: OT U.S. Forces rules for gunfights - 8/27/2010 11:19:19 PM   
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I've seen the "Marine" one several times with different titles. When I did my handgun training for work it was just titled "Rules of a gun fight" and it had some more rules such as.

- Bring two guns if you can
- Bring all your friends who have guns
- a long arm is better than a pistol


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