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Vietnam Combat Operation 1 - Aces8 vs AI - 8/16/2010 9:53:48 AM   
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Hi guys this will be my first TOAW AAR. I have chosen to play Boonierats (Stéphane Moutin-Luyat) excellent Combat operations Vietnam series. I've been planning on doing this all summer and finally had some free time so here it is. I know this has been done before but I'd figure I'd try my hand at it. Lets have fun

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Historical background 1965 - 8/16/2010 9:57:00 AM   
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As 1965 began the Viet Cong had entered a new phase of their insurgency against the South Vietnamese
government. The Communists departed from their usual hit and run guerrilla tactics and engaged the armed forces of the Republic of Vietnam (RVNAF) near the village of Binh Gia, 40 miles east of Saigon, in a pitched battle which lasted from 28 December 1964 until 1 January 1965.
During the struggle for Binh Gia, two regiments from the 9th VC Division ambushed and virtually destroyed two battalions of South Vietnamese troops, including the 4th Battalion, Vietnamese Marine Corps, and inflicted heavy casualties on relieving armored and mechanized forces.
According to General Westmoreland, Commander, US Military Assistance Command, Vietnam, Binh Gia marked
the start of the final Communist offensive, "it meant the beginning of an intensive military challenge which the Vietnamese government could not meet with its own
resources".
On 7 February 1965, the Viet Cong attacked the US compound at Pleiku in the Central Highlands, a
provocation that altered the entire course of the war. In the early morning of the 7th, the Viet Cong attacking force laid down a mortar barrage on the advisors'quarters and airfield, killing 9 Americans, wounding 128 others, and damaging or destroying 18 aircraft. At the urging of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and with the concurrence of Ambassador Taylor, President Lyndon B. Johnson ordered retaliatory air strikes against North Vietnam. Addressing the nation later that day, the President announced the
withdrawal of U.S. dependents from Vietnam and warned that the United States might take further actions. He declared: "I have ordered the deployment to South Vietnam of a HAWK air defense battalion. Other
reinforcements, in units and individuals, may follow". Although chances of air retaliation by the small North Vietnamese Air Force were slim, the U.S. Government considered that the deployment of the HAWK missiles in conjunction with the air strike, code named FLAMING DART, on 7 February, would convince Hanoi of American determination to support South Vietnam. The Communists, nevertheless, continued attacks against U.S. installations. On 10 February, the Viet Cong destroyed a U.S. enlisted billet in the coastal city of Qui Nhon, killing 23 U.S. soldiers and wounding 22 others. Once more, President
Johnson, on the recommendation of the Joint Chiefs, ordered U.S. aircraft to bomb the north in retaliation. On 11 February, more than 100 Navy carrier planes struck at military targets in North Vietnam. Following the Qui Nhon attack, on 11 February the Joints Chiefs of Staff forwarded to the Secretary of Defense a program of reprisal actions to be taken against Communist provocations. The chiefs observed that the retaliatory air raids against North Vietnam had not achieved the
intended effect. They recommended in its place a "sustained pressure" campaign to include continuing air
strikes against selected targets in North Vietnam, naval bombardment, covert operations, intelligence patrols and cross-border operations in Laos, and the landing of American troops in South Vietnam. On 13 February, President Johnson approved a "limited and measured" air campaign against North Vietnam, which took the code name ROLLING THUNDER. The ROLLING THUNDER campaign was delayed until 2 March because of a
combination of bad weather and the instability of the South Vietnamese political situation. Confronted with both a deteriorating political and military situation, General Westmoreland directed his deputy,
Lieutenant General John L. Throckmorton, to determine what American ground forces were needed for base
security. After completing his survey, Throckmorton recommended the deployment of a three-battalion Marine expeditionary brigade to Da Nang because of the vital importance of the base for any air campaign against the north and "the questionable capability of the Vietnamese to protect the base". On 22 February, General Westmoreland forwarded this request to Admiral Sharp who in turn informed the JCS
that he agreed with Westmoreland's assessment of the situation. Although expressing strong reservations about sending any American ground forces to Vietnam, Ambassador Taylor, in a message to the State Department on 22 February, agreed to placing one Marine BLT at Da Nang "in view of General Westmoreland's understandable concern for the safety of this important base".

(Taken from U.S. Marines in Vietnam. The Landing and the
Buildup, 1965 by Jack Shulimson and Maj Charles M.
Johnson, Washington, DC: History and Museums Division,
Headquarters U.S.M.C., 1978)

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Turn 1 Mission - 8/16/2010 10:05:50 AM   
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Well my first mission is to Land the Marine Landing force at Red Beach North of Da Nang




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Turn 1 Marines land - 8/16/2010 10:24:29 AM   
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Land the Landing Force

Naval Task force 76 has landed the 3rd Battalion of the 9th Marines at "Red" Beach north of Da Nang on the morning of March 8th 1965. The marines are greeted with flowers and photo ops as they land. Brigadier General Karch is in overall command of the 9th Marine Expeditionary Brigade. The 3/9th Marines proceed from Red Beach to secure the Da Nang Airbase. The 3/9th Marines are followed that day by the 1st Battalion 3rd Marines which is flown directly to Da Nang airbase from Okinawa.




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Turn 1 Operation Quyet Thang 127 - 8/16/2010 10:33:59 AM   
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Operation Quyet Thang 127

Also on Turn 1 I have another mission after landing the Marines. This mission is for the ARVN 3rd Airborne Battalion. This mission takes place on March 14th 1965. The 3rd Airborne is based in An Khe. The ARVN have received intelligence stating that the NLF have a POW camp at An Ninh. I helicoptered the 3rd Airborne BTL into the area but found no sign of the enemy or any POW's.




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RE: Turn 1 Operation Quyet Thang 127 - 8/16/2010 12:57:52 PM   
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Gonna be following this one Are you using 3.4 or the older version?

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RE: Turn 1 Operation Quyet Thang 127 - 8/16/2010 6:13:10 PM   
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Look forward to reading this one Aces im just starting Vol 2

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RE: Turn 1 Operation Quyet Thang 127 - 8/17/2010 8:58:07 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Boonierat

Gonna be following this one Are you using 3.4 or the older version?


Cool , I'm using the older version

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RE: Turn 1 Operation Quyet Thang 127 - 8/17/2010 9:20:30 AM   
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quote:

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Look forward to reading this one Aces im just starting Vol 2


Cool I hope you do an AAR

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Turn 1 Kannack overrun by NLF Battalion - 8/17/2010 9:37:29 AM   
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Kannack CIDG camp Overrun by Viet Cong

The Kannack CIDG (Civilian Irregular Defense Group) Camp in Binh Dinh Province has been overrun by an NLF Battalion. The CIDG force at Kannack has retreated south of the camp.




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Turn 2 - 8/17/2010 9:46:05 AM   
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Turn 2 has begun the initial missions have been accomplished. I only saw the one attack from the Viet Cong so far at Kannack other then that a pretty quiet first week with no sign of the enemy anywhere else.




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Turn 2 Marines at Da Nang - 8/17/2010 9:56:56 AM   
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Da Nang Air base secured

The Marines of the 9th Marine Expeditionary Brigade have secured the Da Nang airbase and dug in. The White house has limited their area of operations to the Air base perimeter.




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Turn 2 - 3rd ARVN Airborne Bn - 8/17/2010 10:08:34 AM   
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3rd ARVN Airborne Bn Returns to An Khe

The 3rd ARVN Airborne Bn has returned from Operation Quyet Thang 127 to An Khe on foot. They have encountered no enemy forces on the return journey.






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Turn 2 - Kannack retaken - 8/17/2010 10:22:14 AM   
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Kannack CIDG camp retaken

The 7th ARVN Airborne Battalion has been airlifted into the overrun CIDG camp at Kannack from Pleiku. The enemy force have already slipped away avoiding contact. The CIDG Bn are reorganizing south of the camp after the recent battle. The camp is secure for now.




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RE: Turn 1 Operation Quyet Thang 127 - 8/17/2010 6:05:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aces8


quote:

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Look forward to reading this one Aces im just starting Vol 2


Cool I hope you do an AAR

Mmmm think im gonna wait until ive upgraded to 3.4 im on turn 2 so not to far into the game so will restart soon

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Turn 2 - ROK Dove Engineers - 8/18/2010 10:28:14 AM   
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Republic of Korea "Dove" unit arrives

The ROK Dove unit has arrived at Bien Hoa. This unit consists of an Engineer Battalion, a transport company, a Marine Engineer company, a Security Battalion, a service unit, a control group and a mobile hospital.




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Turn 3 - summary - 8/19/2010 8:44:46 AM   
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Turn 3 has begun it has been very quiet this turn with no sightings of the enemy. Suoi Doi CIDG Camp closed.




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Turn 3 - 716th MP's - 8/19/2010 8:48:01 AM   
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716th MP Battalion arrives

The 716th Military Police Battalion have arrived at Tan Son Nhut Airport. They have moved into downtown Saigon to reinforce the city.




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Turn 4 - Begins - 8/20/2010 8:23:40 AM   
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Turn 4 has begun several operations are planned this week. On March 30th a A bomb explodes in a car parked in front of the U.S. Embassy in Saigon, virtually destroying the building and killing 19 Vietnamese, 2 Americans, and 1 Filipino; 183 others were injured. Congress quickly appropriated $1 million to reconstruct the embassy. Although some U.S. military leaders advocate special retaliatory raids on North Vietnam, President Lyndon B. Johnson refuses. Here is the news summary at the beginning of the turn.




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Turn 4 - Operation Quyet Thang 512 - 8/20/2010 8:37:40 AM   
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Operation Quyet Thang 512

The 5th ARVN Airborne Battalion has begun Operation Quyet Thang 512 a search and destroy operation between Tam Ky and Tien Phuoc in Quang Tin Province. The 5th ARVN Abn Bn detected no enemy units in the area as it cleared the road to Tien Phuoc. Another quiet operation with no sign of the Viet Cong.




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Turn 4 - Operation Quyet Thang 131 - 8/20/2010 8:59:47 AM   
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Operation Quyet Thang 131

The Vietnamese Marine Corp's Task Force B has been tasked with completing Operation Quyet Thang 131. The objective of the Operation is to clear Route 1 from Hoai Nhon to Tam Quan the border of Quang Ngai province. Enemy troops have been spotted by VNMC TF B in the village of An Thai. The two Battalions of Marines cordon off the village and prepare for an assault.




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Turn 4 - Attack on An Thai - 8/20/2010 9:14:45 AM   
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VNMC TF B attack on enemy forces at An Thai

VNMC TF B has suffered heavy losses in the attack on An Thai. The enemy force is revealed to be the 5th Battalion of the 12th Regiment of the PAVN (People's army of Vietnam). Half of the Marine force is lost in the assault on the heavily fortified village. More ARVN forces will need to be brought to An Thai to try and destroy this enemy battalion before it slips away.




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Turn 4 - Operation Dan Chi 129 - 8/20/2010 9:54:10 AM   
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Operation Dan Chi 129

The 21st ARVN Division have been given orders to start a search and destroy operation called Dan Chi 129 with its 33rd Regiment. Also assigned to this operation is the 42nd and 44th ARVN Ranger battalions. The operation began with a road clearing force that proceeded north from Quan Long but quickly encountered an enemy force in a heavily fortified area in a mangrove swamp south of Kien Long. The enemy force is believed to be a Viet Cong Local force Battalion. A fire support base (FSB) is quickly set up at Kien Long and several more regiments of the 21st ARVN Division are rushed into the area via helicopter to set up blocking positions. Elements of the 21st ARVN Divisions 31st and 32nd Regiment are sent in to help destroy the enemy unit. Two ARVN Battalions have been sent into the U Minh forest to see if there are any more VC Local forces near by. They have discovered what is believed to be the VC 3rd Regional HQ. The two ARVN battalions in the U Minh forest consist of two battalions of the 32nd ARVN Regiment of the 21st Division. Hopefully the ARVN forces in this Operation won't suffer the heavy losses that were encountered in Operation Quyet Thang 131. And just one final note in my pics of operations solid arrows represent ground travel and the dashed arrows represent helicopter or air travel if anybody was wondering




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Turn 4 - Operation Dan Chi 129 swamp attack - 8/20/2010 10:15:56 AM   
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Operation Dan Chi 129 attack on the Swamp position

The attack on the fortified position in the Mangrove swamp (The northern most enemy unit in the last map) just southwest of Kien Long wasn't too bloody but the ARVN took more losses then the Viet Cong once again despite the fact that they outnumbered the enemy. The enemy unit in the swamp has been identified as the 10th Viet Cong Local force Battalion.




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Turn 4 - Operation Dan Chi 129 U Minh forest - 8/20/2010 10:29:45 AM   
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Operation Dan Chi 129 attack on the VC HQ in the U Minh Forest

The southern attack in the U Minh forest on the Viet Cong's Military Region 3 HQ was a very bloody battle. The VC suffered negligible losses in the battle while the ARVN 21st Divisions 32nd Regiments two battalions suffered heavy losses in the attack on the heavily fortified VC HQ. These units will have to wait until the 10 Viet Cong Local force Bn in the Mangrove swamp is cleared further north and the rest of the 21st ARVN Division's forces can join them in attempting to destroy the VC HQ if they don't escape.




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RE: Turn 4 - Operation Dan Chi 129 U Minh forest - 8/20/2010 4:20:52 PM   
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Really, you're going to continue taking incredible losses unless you allocate disproportionate amounts of support to each assault.

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RE: Turn 4 - Operation Dan Chi 129 U Minh forest - 8/23/2010 8:20:19 AM   
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Really, you're going to continue taking incredible losses unless you allocate disproportionate amounts of support to each assault.


I will keep that in mind

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Turn 5 - News Summary - 8/23/2010 8:25:32 AM   
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This turn I have a bunch of missions that involve building and securing 4 CIDG Camps at Tan Linh, Suoi Da, Tuyen Nhon and Cai Cai. Most of these CIDG camps are in remote areas they will be on the lookout for enemy troop movements. On the 6th of April of this weekly turn President Johnson has authorized the Marines at Da Nang to move out and engage Viet Cong and North Vietnamese forces. Here's the summary at the beginning of the turn




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Turn 5 - Operation Dan Chi 129 phase 2 - 8/23/2010 8:45:14 AM   
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Operation Dan Chi 129 Phase 2

Operation Dan Chi 129 has entered its second phase. The 21st ARVN Division has managed to take the fortified swamp position formerly held by the 10th Viet Cong Local force Battalion only to find it completely abandoned. The bulk of the ARVN 21st Divisions forces have been sent further south to try and take out the Viet Cong's Military Region 3 HQ which is heavily fortified in the U Minh forest. Hopefully they will be destroyed before they slip away in the night.




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Turn 5 - Attack on Viet Cong Viet Cong MR3 HQ - 8/23/2010 8:54:00 AM   
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21st ARVN Division attack on VC MR3 HQ in U Minh Forest

The forces of the 21st Division have begun the attack on the VC Military Region 3 HQ. For the first time in this campaign the VC have taken more losses then ARVN troops. Here's the combat summary.




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