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WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 1:33:09 AM   
koontz

 

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this isnt the first time more like my 3ed or fourth time!

just recived this
quote:

Game over. Had dozens of bombers on naval attack in the area, several surface attack groups, and had both your suicide groups spotted. Yet they managed to get through all that without even being attacked. This game sucks too much to play.


AAR

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 25, 41
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Invasion Support action off Ambon - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

20 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CA Kako
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba
xAKL Amakasu Maru
PB Shuko Maru #5
PB Sonan Maru #6
PB Sonan Maru #5
xAK Taihei Maru



CA Kako firing at 4th Coastal Gun Battalion
4th Coastal Gun Battalion firing at CA Kako
CA Furutaka firing at 4th Coastal Gun Battalion
4th Coastal Gun Battalion firing at CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa firing at 4th Coastal Gun Battalion
4th Coastal Gun Battalion firing at CA Aoba
CA Aoba firing at 4th Coastal Gun Battalion
150mm CD Gun Battery engaging xAKL Amakasu Maru at 10,000 yards
CA Kinugasa firing to suppress enemy battery at 10,000 yards
PB Shuko Maru #5 fired at enemy troops
PB Sonan Maru #6 fired at enemy troops
PB Sonan Maru #5 fired at enemy guns


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Invasion Support action off Ambon
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Shuko Maru #5
PB Sonan Maru #6
PB Sonan Maru #5
xAK Taihei Maru



PB Shuko Maru #5 fired at enemy guns
PB Sonan Maru #6 fired at enemy guns
PB Sonan Maru #5 fired at enemy guns


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Pre-Invasion action off Ambon - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

54 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CL Abukuma, Shell hits 1, on fire
CL Jintsu
DD Minekaze
DD Asanagi
DD Matsukaze, Shell hits 2, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



CL Abukuma firing at 4th Coastal Gun Battalion
4th Coastal Gun Battalion firing at CL Abukuma
CL Jintsu firing at 4th Coastal Gun Battalion
4th Coastal Gun Battalion firing at CL Jintsu
DD Minekaze firing at 4th Coastal Gun Battalion
4th Coastal Gun Battalion firing at DD Minekaze
DD Asanagi firing at 4th Coastal Gun Battalion
4th Coastal Gun Battalion firing at DD Asanagi
DD Matsukaze firing at 4th Coastal Gun Battalion
4th Coastal Gun Battalion firing at DD Matsukaze
DD Asanagi fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Ambon

TF 57 troops unloading over beach at Ambon, 76,109





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Invasion Support action off Ambon - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

19 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CL Abukuma, on fire
CL Jintsu, Shell hits 3
DD Minekaze
DD Yunagi, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Asanagi



CL Abukuma firing at Molukken Garrison Battalion
4th Coastal Gun Battalion firing at CL Jintsu
CL Jintsu firing at 4th Coastal Gun Battalion
DD Yunagi firing at 4th Coastal Gun Battalion
4th Coastal Gun Battalion firing at DD Yunagi
4th Coastal Gun Battalion firing at DD Asanagi


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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 34,810 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
10 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 32810 feet



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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 38,810 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
2 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 32810 feet



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Morning Air attack on Wenchow , at 89,58

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 38



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 83

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
7 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
16 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Wenchow , at 89,58

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 9



No Japanese losses



Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 26

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 11th Special Base Force, at 56,88 (Singkawang)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes


Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 3


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x 139WH-3 bombing from 10000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 300 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ambon at 76,109

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8



Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 3
B-339D x 2
Do-24K-1 x 2
Hudson I x 3


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 2 destroyed
B-339D: 1 destroyed
Hudson I: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CL Jintsu
CL Abukuma, on fire



Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Do-24K-1 bombing from 5000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 300 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ambon at 76,109

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5



Allied aircraft
Do-24K-1 x 3


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Do-24K-1: 1 destroyed



CAP engaged:
Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Manus at 99,119

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes


Allied aircraft
Catalina I x 2


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAKL Chosen Maru



Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Catalina I bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 500 lb SAP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on II./124th Infantry Battalion, at 56,88 (Singkawang)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Blenheim IV bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 11th Special Base Force ...
Also attacking II./124th Infantry Bn /2 ...


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Morning Air attack on Jolo , at 74,90

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 16


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed on ground




Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 35,810 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
18 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 32810 feet



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sibolga at 44,79

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 2
G4M1 Betty x 13



Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
AMC Pansy
AM Romney



Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
2 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sibolga at 44,79

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 2



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Matiana



Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Manus at 99,119

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
Catalina I x 2


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Holland Maru



Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Catalina I bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 500 lb SAP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Port Blair , at 46,58

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 28



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2
Port hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
19 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Kuantan , at 51,79

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 29



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 32

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb
18 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Hong Kong , at 77,61

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 6



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Ground combat at Taiping (49,75)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 674 troops, 0 guns, 103 vehicles, Assault Value = 110

Defending force 170 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 52

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 52 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Taiping !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)


Allied ground losses:
222 casualties reported
Squads: 20 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1


Assaulting units:
1st Tank Regiment
5th Recon Regiment

Defending units:
3rd SSVF Battalion


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Ground combat at Baybay (81,86)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 6418 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 230

Defending force 339 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4

Japanese adjusted assault: 187

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 187 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Baybay !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), preparation(-)
morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)


Allied ground losses:
457 casualties reported
Squads: 43 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 29 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 14 (14 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1


Assaulting units:
66th Infantry Group

Defending units:
93rd PA Infantry Regiment


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Ground combat at Ambon (76,109)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 3869 troops, 38 guns, 141 vehicles, Assault Value = 201

Defending force 2066 troops, 25 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 54

Japanese adjusted assault: 185

Allied adjusted defense: 22

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Ambon !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
112 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
2458 casualties reported
Squads: 82 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 165 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 12 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 21 (21 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 3


Assaulting units:
Kure 2nd SNLF
8th Tank Regiment
Sasebo 2nd SNLF
15th Base Force /8

Defending units:
Molukken Garrison Battalion
4th Coastal Gun Battalion
Ambon Base Force


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Ground combat at 89,46

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 960 troops, 0 guns, 144 vehicles, Assault Value = 110

Defending force 1445 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 46

Japanese adjusted assault: 154

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 154 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
Units pursuing 1


Allied ground losses:
1496 casualties reported
Squads: 114 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 34 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 2


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
12th Tank Regiment
15th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
51st Chinese Corps
69th Chinese Corps


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Ground combat at 88,43

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 11303 troops, 94 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 403

Defending force 4688 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 180

Japanese adjusted assault: 336

Allied adjusted defense: 31

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
434 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled


Allied ground losses:
2066 casualties reported
Squads: 104 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 78 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
35th Division

Defending units:
98th Chinese Corps


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Ground combat at Manila (79,77)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 10811 troops, 94 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 375

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 600

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 600 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Manila !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+)



Assaulting units:
9th Infantry Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
Miura Det


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Ground combat at 80,91

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 675 troops, 0 guns, 102 vehicles, Assault Value = 58

Defending force 293 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 17

Japanese adjusted assault: 98

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 98 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)


Allied ground losses:
383 casualties reported
Squads: 22 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 16 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 1


Assaulting units:
2nd Tank Regiment

Defending units:
1st /101st PA Battalion


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Ground combat at Sidate (75,100)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 402 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 24

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 24 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Sidate !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+)



Assaulting units:
Bandasan SNLF


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Ground combat at Kuching (58,88)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1084 troops, 5 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 51

Defending force 633 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22



Assaulting units:
Sarawak Force
2/15 Punjab Battalion
106th RN Base Force

Defending units:
I./124th Infantry Battalion


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Ground combat at San Fernando (80,74)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 474 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 34

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 16

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 16 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE San Fernando !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
Sasebo 1st SNLF /3


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 26, 41

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Bangkok at 56,62, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Chitose Maru
PB Kenkon Maru, Shell hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Yamasimo Maru, Shell hits 2
xAK Tatuwa Maru
xAK Yamabiko Maru
xAK Yamahagi Maru
xAK Tonan Maru
xAK Mikage Maru
AMC Bankok Maru
xAK Kokuryu Maru, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Bingo Maru
xAK Toyu Maru
xAK Nanrei Maru
xAKL Fuyukawa Maru
xAK Seiwa Maru
xAP Mizuho Maru, Shell hits 2
xAP Ural Maru, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CL Dauntless

Japanese ground losses:
164 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 10 (2 destroyed, 8 disabled)



Reduced visibility due to Rain with 53% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Rain and 53% moonlight: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 6,000 yards
Japanese ships attempt to get underway
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 6,000 yards
CL Dauntless engages xAP Ural Maru at 6,000 yards
CL Dauntless engages xAK Yamasimo Maru at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
CL Dauntless engages PB Kenkon Maru at 3,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
CL Dauntless engages PB Kenkon Maru at 2,000 yards
CL Dauntless engages xAP Mizuho Maru at 2,000 yards
CL Dauntless engages PB Kenkon Maru at 2,000 yards
CL Dauntless engages xAK Kokuryu Maru at 2,000 yards
xAK Kokuryu Maru sunk by CL Dauntless at 2,000 yards
Japanese Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...


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TF 124 encounters mine field at Bangkok (56,62)

Allied Ships
CL Dauntless, Mine hits 1





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Day Time Surface Combat, near Soc Trang at 57,74, Range 16,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DMS W-1
DMS W-2, Shell hits 19, heavy fires, heavy damage
DMS W-3, Shell hits 18, and is sunk
xAK Kenyo Maru, Shell hits 14, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Kogyo Maru, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Tatutaki Maru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Teiyo Maru, Shell hits 4
xAK Tatumiya Maru, Shell hits 9, heavy fires
xAK Naruto Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Witte de With, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Evertsen
DD Piet Hein

Japanese ground losses:
1894 casualties reported
Squads: 55 destroyed, 66 disabled
Non Combat: 48 destroyed, 167 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 45 disabled
Guns lost 42 (24 destroyed, 18 disabled)



Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions: 30,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 21,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 21,000 yards
Range closes to 16,000 yards...
Kirkpatrick O. crosses the 'T'
Range closes to 12,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages DMS W-3 at 12,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages DMS W-2 at 12,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages xAK Tatumiya Maru at 12,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages xAK Kenyo Maru at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages DMS W-2 at 10,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DMS W-3 at 10,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages xAK Kenyo Maru at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages DMS W-3 at 7,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DMS W-3 at 7,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages xAK Tatutaki Maru at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages DMS W-3 at 8,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages DMS W-3 at 8,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages xAK Naruto Maru at 8,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages xAK Kogyo Maru at 8,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages xAK Kenyo Maru at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages DMS W-3 at 9,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages DMS W-3 at 9,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DMS W-3 at 9,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages xAK Tatumiya Maru at 9,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages xAK Kenyo Maru at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages DMS W-3 at 10,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages DMS W-2 at 10,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DMS W-3 at 10,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages xAK Kogyo Maru at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages DMS W-3 at 9,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages xAK Teiyo Maru at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages DMS W-3 at 10,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages DMS W-3 at 10,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages xAK Kenyo Maru at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DMS W-3 at 7,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages DMS W-2 at 7,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages DMS W-1 at 7,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages xAK Naruto Maru at 7,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages xAK Tatumiya Maru at 7,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages xAK Tatutaki Maru at 7,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages xAK Kogyo Maru at 7,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages DMS W-3 at 7,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages xAK Teiyo Maru at 7,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DMS W-1 at 7,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages xAK Kenyo Maru at 7,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages DMS W-3 at 7,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages DMS W-2 at 7,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DMS W-1 at 7,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages xAK Naruto Maru at 7,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages xAK Tatumiya Maru at 7,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages xAK Kenyo Maru at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages DMS W-3 at 5,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages DMS W-2 at 5,000 yards
DMS W-3 sunk by DD Witte de With at 5,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages xAK Naruto Maru at 5,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages xAK Teiyo Maru at 5,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages xAK Kenyo Maru at 5,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages DMS W-2 at 4,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DMS W-1 at 4,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages xAK Naruto Maru at 4,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages xAK Teiyo Maru at 4,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages xAK Kenyo Maru at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages DMS W-2 at 3,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages DMS W-2 at 3,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages xAK Naruto Maru at 3,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages xAK Tatumiya Maru at 3,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages xAK Teiyo Maru at 3,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages xAK Kogyo Maru at 3,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages xAK Kenyo Maru at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DMS W-2 at 9,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages DMS W-1 at 9,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DMS W-2 at 9,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages xAK Tatutaki Maru at 9,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages xAK Kogyo Maru at 9,000 yards
Kirkpatrick O. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range increases to 15,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages DMS W-2 at 15,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages DMS W-2 at 15,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages xAK Tatumiya Maru at 15,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages xAK Kogyo Maru at 15,000 yards
DD Piet Hein engages xAK Kenyo Maru at 15,000 yards
Range increases to 18,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages DMS W-2 at 18,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages xAK Naruto Maru at 18,000 yards
Task forces break off...


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Bangkok at 55,63, Range 16,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Chitose Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Yamasimo Maru, heavy fires
xAK Tatuwa Maru, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Yamabiko Maru
xAK Yamahagi Maru
xAK Tonan Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
xAK Mikage Maru
AMC Bankok Maru
xAK Bingo Maru
xAK Toyu Maru
xAK Nanrei Maru
xAKL Fuyukawa Maru
xAK Seiwa Maru
xAP Mizuho Maru, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CL Dauntless

Japanese ground losses:
392 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 22 destroyed, 62 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Reduced visibility due to Rain
Maximum visibility in Rain: 15,000 yards
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 15,000 yards
Japanese TF attempts to evade combat
Range increases to 16,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 16,000 yards
Range increases to 17,000 yards
CL Dauntless engages PB Chitose Maru at 17,000 yards
CL Dauntless engages xAK Tatuwa Maru at 17,000 yards
Range increases to 18,000 yards
CL Dauntless engages xAP Mizuho Maru at 18,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards
CL Dauntless engages xAP Mizuho Maru at 17,000 yards
CL Dauntless engages xAK Mikage Maru at 17,000 yards
CL Dauntless engages xAK Yamasimo Maru at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 14,000 yards
CL Dauntless engages xAK Tatuwa Maru at 14,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards
CL Dauntless engages xAK Tonan Maru at 12,000 yards
CL Dauntless engages xAK Yamabiko Maru at 12,000 yards
Hewitt, J.G. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range closes to 9,000 yards
CL Dauntless engages xAP Mizuho Maru at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 15,000 yards
CL Dauntless engages PB Chitose Maru at 15,000 yards
Range increases to 19,000 yards
CL Dauntless engages AMC Bankok Maru at 19,000 yards
CL Dauntless engages xAK Yamasimo Maru at 19,000 yards
Task forces break off...





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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 1:43:20 AM   
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I'd suggest finding a veteran PBEM opponent who is not going to pick up his toys and go home when he get's mad.

Sorry you have had a bad run of opponents. It's a long term relationship, so maybe try to start a game with someone you are a bit familiar with.

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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 1:54:10 AM   
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Guess I'm missing the question here .... that the Dauntless and 3 Dutch DD's cream (relatively) unescorted convoys?  Good play in your sending those units in.  My condolences to your opponent. 

First rule of any invasion force is to secure the area concerned.  If your units were spotted, then the invasion could have been pulled back for a day or two until your units were annihilated.  He took a big gamble with some expensive units and lost.

Not saying I might not have done the same thing, my opponent knows I've made more than a few bone-head mistakes much to his delight.  When I do, I don't blame the game though ... I made the decision. 

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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 1:54:19 AM   
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I was actually quite impressed with the feistness of the Dauntless. I know that the Allied players generally take an awful beating in the first year of the war and many probably get turned off by that (kind of how it really was actually during the war). Not to mention those vocal few that actually think the Allies could defeat Japan before 1942.

Hang in there. I went through a couple of early games myself and managed to get into what I believe will be a good long term game. We're into June 1942 now and I know it is just a matter of time before the tables slowly turn.


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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 2:11:40 AM   
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I'd suggest finding a veteran PBEM opponent who is not going to pick up his toys and go home when he get's mad.

Sorry you have had a bad run of opponents. It's a long term relationship, so maybe try to start a game with someone you are a bit familiar with.




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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 3:06:19 AM   
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Koontz,

+1 on allied performace being especially poor in the first months of the war. Let me emphasize that again...allied units, especially in DEI are vastly inferior in effectiveness if not in numbers. This does not mean they dont have one or two good attacks in them. CA's versus AMC and PB's is going to be a predictable outcome every time. Actually, that outcome seems pretty favorable to the Empire relative to what could have happened.

As a tip, always have your invasion convoys follow a surface escort with a react of 1 or 2. Roaming escorts are relatively speaking ineffective. IMO not necessary to lag hexes, but definately follow. It will be highly likely the escort TF will engage first, unless the enemy achieves surprise (in which case you need to hold on to your lug nuts becasue the ride will be ugly).


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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 3:53:07 AM   
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Every time I see someone point out that their PBEM partner quits within the first 6 months because of an unsatisfactory outcome, I am frustrated that no names are identified. How else is a potential PBEM player to know who are the unrealiable PBEM players to avoid if identification is not provided? There are too few known forum players, who are fully occupied with their own game schedule anyway, to merely rely upon that source for a new PBEM partner.

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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 3:58:50 AM   
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Alfred, can I suggest you ask the original poster in a PM?  I think I would not want to be known as a person who talks bad about individuals, and maybe that is why the opponent's name was not specifically mentioned.  A PM allows you to find out who to avoid starting a game with, while not having things degenerate into a mud slinging contest on the forums.  

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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 3:59:32 AM   
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Also, for big invasion convoys, include a CA or two and at least one CL in the invasion TF so that "if all else fails" there will be protection. The old 18 kt IJN CLs are good for this duty.


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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 4:09:44 AM   
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Alfred, can I suggest you ask the original poster in a PM?  I think I would not want to be known as a person who talks bad about individuals, and maybe that is why the opponent's name was not specifically mentioned.  A PM allows you to find out who to avoid starting a game with, while not having things degenerate into a mud slinging contest on the forums.  


Good point, I hadn't thought about PM as I am rather loathe to just arrive unannounced and unknown via a PM.

Notwithstanding the validity of your observation, isn't there some merit in identifying the serial quitters to avoid the too common angst they regularly generate.

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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 5:53:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: USS America

I'd suggest finding a veteran PBEM opponent who is not going to pick up his toys and go home when he get's mad.

Sorry you have had a bad run of opponents. It's a long term relationship, so maybe try to start a game with someone you are a bit familiar with.

+1.

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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 6:00:45 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: USS America

Alfred, can I suggest you ask the original poster in a PM?  I think I would not want to be known as a person who talks bad about individuals, and maybe that is why the opponent's name was not specifically mentioned.  A PM allows you to find out who to avoid starting a game with, while not having things degenerate into a mud slinging contest on the forums.  


Good point, I hadn't thought about PM as I am rather loathe to just arrive unannounced and unknown via a PM.

Notwithstanding the validity of your observation, isn't there some merit in identifying the serial quitters to avoid the too common angst they regularly generate.

Alfred

Good points, Alfred and Mike. I think savy veteran forumites get a 'feel' for sketchy PBEM partners even if nothing else is posted slandering this person's behavior. Key warning signs:

1. The opponent has 32 different games running. None of which have progressed past the first month.
2. The opponent has a total of 25 forum posts over 4 years of registration. All of which are asking for 'fresh meat' on the opponent's wanted forum.
3. Wanton insults about others' strategic capabilities, general intelligence, ethnic origin, or particular amino acid sequence on a particular gene.

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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 8:38:06 AM   
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this isnt the first time more like my 3ed or fourth time!

just recived this
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Game over. Had dozens of bombers on naval attack in the area, several surface attack groups, and had both your suicide groups spotted. Yet they managed to get through all that without even being attacked. This game sucks too much to play.





I understand your opponent's feelings (my Japanese opponent is still doing this to me once in a while in 1944), but can any rational human being really expect everything to work perfectly for 1600 turns? "Stuff" happens! And as several have pointed out, it happens more frequently to unprotected convoys.

There are things that aren't perfect in AE (nerfed Allied skip bombing, over-rated and overly effective Japanese ASW, Jap torpedo planes that drop laser guided bombs in "level mode" from 9,000 feet, etc), but that's why we have a forum to question and complain in.

This sounds more like the whining of a JFB who's "perfect plan" to win on VP's in 13 months just hit a setback due to bad luck and bad planning. You should probably be grateful that he quit now rather than bolting on Jan 2, 1943 when he didn't get his "auto-win". Great reason to hate VP's is they encourage this kind of play.

It is probably "bad form" to name this person on the forum..., but I do hope you will answer inquiries to prevent others from having to deal with such childishness...

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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 4:38:44 PM   
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Great reason to hate VP's is they encourage this kind of play.



Couldn't agree more. Have never played using VPs and never will.


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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 6:48:50 PM   
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Well ive don`t feels to give away the name, and the player can easy get another account.
Guees Ive have been to naive and picked the first opponet who had replyed. Anyhow got
now to ongoing games where I really trust my foes.

Think its ok to surrender when all CVs and BBs are at bottom of the sea. But in
25th dec as japan?

And also alot easyier to blame your own misstakes on the game engine...

Gonna start an thread about reabile players now.

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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 7:03:13 PM   
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Kootz sorry to hear your PBEM opponent packed it in ...I am currently in a PBEM game; I consider myself lucky I've wargamed with him for 40 years. Its Mar 43 and we have both had horrible turns that could result in a lesser opponent surrendering.
I wish you luck in finding an honourable fow.

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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 7:15:58 PM   
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I am guessing the same person is the one who I just started a PBEM with a month ago and suddenly is now AWOL.

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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 7:30:06 PM   
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1. The opponent has 32 different games running. None of which have progressed past the first month.
2. The opponent has a total of 25 forum posts over 4 years of registration. All of which are asking for 'fresh meat' on the opponent's wanted forum.
3. Wanton insults about others' strategic capabilities, general intelligence, ethnic origin, or particular amino acid sequence on a particular gene.


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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 8:41:44 PM   
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Would not be at all surprised if it was Marky using a new forum identity.

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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 8:52:34 PM   
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What to do? Try again is all you really can do. We've all had failures with PBEM opponents, and it can happen even when you've played him before successfully. One guy bailed on you, then bailed on me the next day, 3 weeks into the war, minimal losses on both sides at that point. I knew him from UV/WITP days, so he should have been a safe choice of opponent.

You also can't be afraid to try someone new (to you, not necessarily new to the game) either. Post count is meaningless as a way of choosing an opponent. My replacement opponent has I think 2 posts in 5 years, but the game has worked out really well. I think it will go the distance.

If you are starting up with an experienced PBEM player, I don't think there is anything wrong with asking for a reference or 2 to get a feel for reliability and play style. I didn't in this case, but have in the past.



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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/8/2010 10:07:37 PM   
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Would not be at all surprised if it was Marky using a new forum identity.


His spelling would reveal his identity soon, though.

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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/9/2010 12:09:17 AM   
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Let me get this straight:  The IJ player takes Manilla on 12/25, and wins a long  list of shock attacks....and then resigns?--because of some naval losses.

Guess the AI will be hard enough for me--it is 1/7 and I am just on the outskirts of Manilla.  [From both the North and South, however]

For my newbie info:  Is the constant shock attacking in these combat reports usual/advisable?  I had been using deliberate attacks almost constantly, considering shock attacks as something desperate (or to quickly take an oil facility), or something one was unfortunately forced into when crossing a river.  Or is this part of the aggressive, high-risk, courting disaster type of play of the PBEMer.   Even against the AI, I like to "keep it real" and keep risks down.  (Similarly, the plane Op losses drive me wild thinking about the waste--but I enjoy the challenge it provides)




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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/9/2010 12:17:44 AM   
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The "main show" is probably at Clark Field, or Bataan.

Shock attacks work well against enemy units that do not have much firepower (shock-attacking troops are subjected to a second round of defensive fire). I wouldn't shock attack an entrenched enemy, who can put up a decent amount of firepower and is not disrupted, unless I'm considerably stronger. Or really, really desperate...


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RE: WTF to to do??? - 8/9/2010 7:21:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58


quote:

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

1. The opponent has 32 different games running. None of which have progressed past the first month.
2. The opponent has a total of 25 forum posts over 4 years of registration. All of which are asking for 'fresh meat' on the opponent's wanted forum.
3. Wanton insults about others' strategic capabilities, general intelligence, ethnic origin, or particular amino acid sequence on a particular gene.


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hehe, the first person I was thinking about too

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