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What's docked - 7/26/2010 9:56:11 AM   
MAARTENR


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Status: offline 		Is docked near to the land without water around it or just next to the ground?
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RE: What's docked - 7/26/2010 10:19:27 AM   
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Is docked near to the land without water around it or just next to the ground?
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The ship is tied up at a port (dock), either loading, offloading or stationary - so "next to ground" as you say. And disbanded is anchored somewhere "with water around"...

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RE: What's docked - 7/26/2010 10:49:44 AM   
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RE: What's docked - 7/26/2010 10:54:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		i think disbaned is where the ship is not in the water to be repaired. Or is this something else?

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RE: What's docked - 7/26/2010 11:39:19 AM   
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i think disbaned is where the ship is not in the water to be repaired. Or is this something else?


No, that's drydock, in game represented by setting repair mode for a ship to "shipyard", as opposed to normal "pier side"

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RE: What's docked - 7/26/2010 11:41:16 AM   
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RE: What's docked - 7/26/2010 2:03:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		I do not understand why I need to set my bombers to "naval attack" to hit docked ships while I need "port attack" to hit ships at anchor in port. If disbanded = anchored I should set port attack for both disbanded and docked ships IMHO.

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RE: What's docked - 7/26/2010 2:19:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Game logic is that Docked belongs to TF and falls under Naval Attack, Disbanded to port falls under Port Attack.

Note btw, that docked ships do not benefit from base AA, only from TF AA. I found out that hard way supplying Java, confirmed by michaelm.


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RE: What's docked - 7/26/2010 2:19:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Because docked ships are combat ready and try to get underway in case of attack, while ships at anchor usually don´t have
the full complement of crew on board and are not considered combat ready.

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RE: What's docked - 7/26/2010 2:49:44 PM   
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RE: What's docked - 7/26/2010 3:05:19 PM   
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How do i get ships docked and how anchored?

Is this when the ships are in the port and not at a taskforce or docked, so it's undocked?

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RE: What's docked - 7/26/2010 3:50:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Maartener,

Anchored means "disbanded into port."  The ships are not part of any TF.

Docked means ships are part of a TF and the TF is docked or tied up to a pier at a port.

Undocked means ships are part of a TF and the TF is not tied up to a pier.  The TF is considered to be underway within the hex.


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RE: What's docked - 7/26/2010 5:43:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you disband a TF at a friendly port, they automatically go into the port and tie up beside port repair facilities, etc, making them immune from naval strikes and sub attacks.  A TF that docks at a port is still vulnerable to both subs and air attacks.

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RE: What's docked - 7/26/2010 5:44:36 PM   
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RE: What's docked - 7/26/2010 8:45:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes. Anytime you disband, they are technically anchored.

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RE: What's docked - 7/26/2010 11:39:37 PM   
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Are ships that arent in a task force in a port are anchored?


Yes, they're considered to be in some kind of protected anchorage which is why you can't attack them with a sub, and available to be serviced by the port facilities.

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RE: What's docked - 7/27/2010 12:42:54 AM   
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Are ships that arent in a task force in a port are anchored?


Yes, they're considered to be in some kind of protected anchorage which is why you can't attack them with a sub, and available to be serviced by the port facilities.


Except you can attack them when they're in a shipyard. By air.

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RE: What's docked - 7/27/2010 12:53:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sub Attacks will happen if TF in hex at sea or if Port <3 if docked or disbanded.

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RE: What's docked - 7/27/2010 10:24:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wich kind of airplanes attacks are used and where are they for ships at the ports?

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RE: What's docked - 7/27/2010 11:39:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you set your planes to "port attack", they will randomly attack any ships in port (disbanded).  The more ships there, the greater chance some of them will be attacked.

Davbaker,  I've never seen sub attacks made on disbanded ships in port.  I have seen sub attacks made on docked TF's in small ports, as you described, but once they're disbanded I believe you cannot attack them with a sub.

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RE: What's docked - 7/27/2010 11:46:12 AM   
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If you set your planes to "port attack", they will randomly attack any ships in port (disbanded). 

So ships wich are anquared(=disbanded) and if there are task forces the task force mission

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RE: What's docked - 7/27/2010 11:46:53 AM   
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Davbaker, I've never seen sub attacks made on disbanded ships in port. I have seen sub attacks made on docked TF's in small ports, as you described, but once they're disbanded I believe you cannot attack them with a sub

Presumably the port authorities have put up anti-torpedo nets around the disbanded (ie at anchor) ships?

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RE: What's docked - 7/27/2010 11:49:11 AM   
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Davbaker, I've never seen sub attacks made on disbanded ships in port. I have seen sub attacks made on docked TF's in small ports, as you described, but once they're disbanded I believe you cannot attack them with a sub

Presumably the port authorities have put up anti-torpedo nets around the disbanded (ie at anchor) ships?

So disbanded are anchor, thanx.

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RE: What's docked - 7/28/2010 12:16:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		The exception to those points are midget subs. They function as a port attack weapon. Hence why they can torpedo the BB's in battleship row at PH, which are disbanded in port.

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RE: What's docked - 7/28/2010 2:16:10 AM   
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Davbaker,  I've never seen sub attacks made on disbanded ships in port.  I have seen sub attacks made on docked TF's in small ports, as you described, but once they're disbanded I believe you cannot attack them with a sub.


Not sure exactly where I got this from. At one stage I went through manual and made a table from what I could understand.
Looks Like I'll need to amend it.







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