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ORIGINAL: AdmSpruance

Michaelm...thanks for the response....not one of the 14 ships in the one bombardment used any ammo so that must have been a lot of extremely bad die rolls. I have a question about the night spotters. The bombardment TF goes in before the AC missions occur so you would need to send up a night recon the night before the actual bombardment?

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ORIGINAL: michaelm

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ORIGINAL: AdmSpruance

Michaelm...thanks for the response....not one of the 14 ships in the one bombardment used any ammo so that must have been a lot of extremely bad die rolls. I have a question about the night spotters. The bombardment TF goes in before the AC missions occur so you would need to send up a night recon the night before the actual bombardment?

Because the bombardment can happen before the air phase, you just need to set the FP to Recon. Before the bombardment starts, the mission of the groups are checked and if any are RECON, then they pseudo-fly for the attack - they don't count as a mission per se. If you don't want them to fly RECON in the air phase, just set the range to 0.

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ORIGINAL: Halsey

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ORIGINAL: michaelm

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ORIGINAL: AdmSpruance

Michaelm...thanks for the response....not one of the 14 ships in the one bombardment used any ammo so that must have been a lot of extremely bad die rolls. I have a question about the night spotters. The bombardment TF goes in before the AC missions occur so you would need to send up a night recon the night before the actual bombardment?

Because the bombardment can happen before the air phase, you just need to set the FP to Recon. Before the bombardment starts, the mission of the groups are checked and if any are RECON, then they pseudo-fly for the attack - they don't count as a mission per se. If you don't want them to fly RECON in the air phase, just set the range to 0.

Is one FP in a TF set on recon sufficient?
Or do I have to go through every ship and do it?

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ORIGINAL: michaelm
IIRC you just need a FP on recon.

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ORIGINAL: AdmSpruance

Something seems to be wrong with naval bombardment following installation of the v1.01.06d beta patch.

Im attempting to bombard Saipan prior to amphibious assault.

First I send in 2 bombardment TFs to bombard from 25,000 yards:


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 29, 43
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Night Naval bombardment of Saipan at 108,93 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

109 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Tennessee
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 2
CA Australia, Shell hits 1
CA Baltimore
CA Salt Lake City

Japanese ground losses:
85 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 5

BB Tennessee firing at Saipan
BB Pennsylvania firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CA Australia firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CA Baltimore firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CA Salt Lake City firing at Saipan Naval Fortress


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Night Naval bombardment of Saipan at 108,93 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

153 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Arizona
BB Nevada
CA Shropshire
CA Boston
CL Caradoc
CL Perth
CL Tromp, Shell hits 1
CL Java, Shell hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Runway hits 4
Port hits 1

BB Arizona firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
BB Nevada firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CA Shropshire firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CA Boston firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CL Caradoc firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CL Perth firing at Saipan
CL Tromp firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CL Java firing at Saipan Naval Fortress


So far its ok but I need to achieve more suppression of the CD guns so I send the next bombardment TF to bombard from 15,000 yards:


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 03, 43
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Night Naval bombardment of Saipan at 108,93 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

105 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Tennessee
BB Pennsylvania
CA Australia, Shell hits 1
CA Baltimore
CA Salt Lake City

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



BB Tennessee firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
BB Pennsylvania firing at 59th JNAF AF Unit
CA Australia firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CA Baltimore firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CA Salt Lake City firing at Saipan Naval Fortress



Ive got 4 divisions floating around on transports offshore so I need to get more neutralization of the defenders.

Next turn I standoff the bombardment TFs at 10,000 yards:


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 05, 43
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Night Naval bombardment of Saipan at 108,93 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

870 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Arizona, Shell hits 38, on fire
BB Nevada, Shell hits 19, on fire
CA Shropshire, Shell hits 1
CA Boston, Shell hits 1
CL Caradoc, Shell hits 3
CL Perth, Shell hits 8, on fire
CL Tromp, Shell hits 1
CL Java

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Runway hits 1

BB Arizona firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
BB Nevada firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CA Shropshire firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CA Boston firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CL Caradoc firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CL Perth firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CL Tromp firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CL Java firing at Saipan


Night Naval bombardment of Saipan at 108,93 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

720 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Massachusetts, Shell hits 23, on fire
BB Idaho, Shell hits 20, on fire
CA Canberra, Shell hits 1
CA San Francisco, Shell hits 8, on fire
CA Chicago, Shell hits 4
CA Northampton, Shell hits 4

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



BB Massachusetts firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
BB Idaho firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CA Canberra firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CA San Francisco firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CA Chicago firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CA Northampton firing at Saipan Naval Fortress


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Night Naval bombardment of Saipan at 108,93 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

484 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Tennessee, Shell hits 11
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 40, on fire
CA Australia, Shell hits 4
CA Baltimore, Shell hits 1
CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 5



BB Tennessee firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
BB Pennsylvania firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CA Australia firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CA Baltimore firing at Saipan Naval Fortress
CA Salt Lake City firing at Saipan Naval Fortress


Now I have 5 shot up BBs and half a dozen battered cruisers but I still cant damage the impregnable Saipan Naval Fortress. All of my bombardment TFs have float planes flying recon over Saipan in addition to land based heavy recon units. Three bombardment TFs with 6 BBs, 9 CAs and $ CLs at a standoff of 10,000 yards manage to cause 19 casualties and score a single runway hit.


Not only that but the BB Arizona/BB Nevada TF didnt use any ammo on its last bombardment from 10,000 yards:

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ORIGINAL: Halsey

Does surface radar enhance this for night bombardments?
Shouldn't it?

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ORIGINAL: hbrsvl

Hi- My concern with bombardment is that my OBBs fire off almost all of their large caliber ammo. I just bombarded Roi-Namur with 5 OBBs.

Results-300+ Japanese casualities(which seems low to me), but all OBBs went from 12/12 large ammo to 2/12 large ammo. Is this the pattern for shore bombardments from now on? That seems to be a huge expenditure of ammo for not very good returns.

Comments, please. Thanks, Hugh Browne