From: Little England
But as far as winning is concerned, 1 AV is 1 AV, whether from an improvised AFV or a T34.
Isn't that an over simplification? I mean, I hope it is.
I'm under the impression that in determining battle results there's AV and there's combat odds.
Okay, if you have 1000 AV while your opponent has 200, everything else equal, the end result is given.
However, if the opposing force's AVs are tight, things like force composition, experience, morale, leader ratings and a truckload of other parameters can tip the combat odds in favor of the side with the lesser AV.
Have I got that wrong?
Things like morale and experience are modifiers to their AV, you see this with the Chinese especially. Also you have factors like, for example, inexperienced units breaking when pushed back as there is some sort of morale check involved. In Malaya the inexperienced Indians usually end up with the dreaded 'Disorg' status when pushed back and suffer disproportionate casualties, if you get that result when armour is chasing you you will likely be annihilated. Crack troops will tend to retreat in good order in comparison. There is no doubt that experience, leadership and morale are big influencers.
The actual stats of the units involved, firepower and such, seem to be much more subtle in effect though. Like I said, Indian improvised AFVs will do just fine in terms of AV and even adjusted AV, they will however take high casualties and when they do suffer casualties they are more likely to be destroyed rather than disabled. High casualties of course has secondary effects on the major stats, morale and experience.
This came up because someone aaaaages ago was curious what happened when T-34s met Japanese toytanks and tried it out, because the T-34s should be enormously superior. The answer is, the toytanks actually did surprisingly well at first flush, but a deeper look at the casualty figures after the battles showed up the impact that the superior stats of the T-34 have. Some people were dubious that a tankette would have a snowflakes chance in hell vs a T-34, but it does, for a fight or two anyway.
From memory : casualties are dependent primarily on 'winning', with a win defined as at least 1:1 combat odds. So 600 toytanks vs 300 T34s will 'win' on AV most likely and take few casualties as a result. However the T34s will likely not suffer many destroyed and maybe if they are lucky fairly light casualties in general as when assessing casualties for the loss their stats will help out. On the other hand 600 T34s versus 300 toytanks, when winning, will probably rip the toytanks a new one with a very high number of tankettes outright destroyed, and its concomitant impact on morale and such.
Less sure on how infantry works but I assume something similar.
< Message edited by EUBanana -- 7/15/2010 4:20:17 PM >