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RE: The Anvil and the Hammer - 5/13/2012 2:18:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: janh

Wow, the move on Rangoon was quite a gambit. Daring, but if it works out, it will mean real trouble for FatR. I do have the impression he has been wasting some of his assets recently quite uncautiously -- I am think especially of those CAs and battlewagons in the NG/Solomons AO, or the supply convoys. The Milne-Bay fighting reminds too much of Guadalcanal, and that didn't go to well for the Japanese either. Too bad he isn't posting his side of things anymore.

Still following your AAR with excitement... keep it going and thumbs up!

Thanks, janh, Be advised the KB has arrived off Rangoon. The situation is in doubt. FatR has 9 IJA divisions in a level six fort at Mandalayand the Aussies are fatigued from the heavy fighting around Rangoon. Not sure I will be able to capture Rangoon now.
Sometimes I realy feel the experience level of FatR. He decided to commit the KB to the bay of bengal while I invaded the marshalls. Makes me feel alittle nubish. I could have done the marshalls maybe a week after rangoon and kept FatR guessing.




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RE: The Anvil and the Hammer - 5/13/2012 2:23:43 AM   
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Another battle is the coming move by the Br 14th army into Mandalay. FatR knows it is coming and I dropped 200 bombers on it last turn. I was reading a AAR by Nemo and he was challenged by a reader about the ability of the allies to take a level 6 fort w/ 120000 troops. Nemo said he used 500 dive bombers for one week to soften the hex for the ground attack. So I hope me 200 plane mix(w/ 100 b24s) will do the job.


What I am finding is not so much the losses although they are gravy .. but the loss of morale that DB's inflcit .... it seems day after day of being pounded and the troops get discouraged ..

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RE: The Anvil and the Hammer - 5/13/2012 2:32:44 AM   
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quote:

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Another battle is the coming move by the Br 14th army into Mandalay. FatR knows it is coming and I dropped 200 bombers on it last turn. I was reading a AAR by Nemo and he was challenged by a reader about the ability of the allies to take a level 6 fort w/ 120000 troops. Nemo said he used 500 dive bombers for one week to soften the hex for the ground attack. So I hope me 200 plane mix(w/ 100 b24s) will do the job.


What I am finding is not so much the losses although they are gravy .. but the loss of morale that DB's inflcit .... it seems day after day of being pounded and the troops get discouraged ..

Do DBs effect morale more than level bombers?

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RE: The Anvil and the Hammer - 5/13/2012 2:36:34 AM   
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I never expected as much from the PT boats operating south of Pegu. The Yamato TF was parked at Pegu last turn so I figured they would come out PT307 put a torp into the Musashi and separated her from the Yamato in shallow water just south of Rangoon. The Yamato TF was moving from pego to east of Rangoon to shield some transport TFs headed into Rangoon.






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Day Time Surface Combat, near Rangoon at 52,54, Range 12,000 Yards
Reduced visibility due to Rain
Maximum visibility in Rain: 15,000 yards

Range closes to 24,000 yards...
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 12,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 12,000 yards
DD Kikuzuki engages PT-307 at 12,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages PT-307 at 12,000 yards
DD Nenohi engages PT-307 at 12,000 yards
Blakeley, R.L. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range closes to 5,000 yards
BB Musashi engages PT-307 at 5,000 yards
PT-304 sunk by BB Yamato at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages PT-307 at 7,000 yards
DD Yugure engages PT-307 at 7,000 yards
DD Nenohi engages PT-307 at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 14,000 yards
DD Hatsuharu engages PT-307 at 14,000 yards
Blakeley, R.L. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range increases to 15,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages PT-307 at 15,000 yards
DD Hatsuharu engages PT-307 at 15,000 yards
Range increases to 19,000 yards
DD Yugure engages PT-307 at 19,000 yards
DD Hatsuharu engages PT-307 at 19,000 yards
Blakeley, R.L. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range increases to 21,000 yards
Range increases to 24,000 yards
Range increases to 29,000 yards
Blakeley, R.L. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range increases to 30,000 yards
BB Yamato engages PT-307 at 30,000 yards
Task forces break off...


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RE: The Anvil and the Hammer - 5/13/2012 2:52:48 AM   
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While from the east side of Rangoon the St Louis TF was given a Bombard mission to Rangoon at Full speed and ran into a IJN CL screen TF of SE Burma. What a fight. I had my search plane set to night recon search so no effect in daylight.



Low visibility due to Rain
Maximum visibility in Rain: 15,000 yards
Range closes to 23,000 yards...
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
Allies open fire on surprised Japanese ships at 11,000 yards

CL St. Louis fires at CL Natori at 11,000 yards
CL St. Louis fires at CL Isuzu at 11,000 yards
DD Hatfield fires at CL Isuzu at 11,000 yards
DD Hatfield fires at DD Mochizuki at 11,000 yards
DD Stronghold fires at CL Isuzu at 11,000 yards
DD Van Galen launches Torpedoes at DD Mochizuki at 11,000 yards
DE Decoy launches Torpedoes at CL Isuzu at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
CL Natori engages CL St. Louis at 4,000 yards
CL Newcastle engages CL Natori at 4,000 yards
CL Nagara engages CL Newcastle at 4,000 yards
DD Thanet engages DD Mochizuki at 4,000 yards
DD Thanet engages DD Mochizuki at 4,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages DD Stronghold at 4,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Van Galen at 4,000 yards
CL Natori engages DE Decoy at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
CL Natori engages CL Newcastle at 7,000 yards
CL St. Louis engages CL Isuzu at 7,000 yards
CL Nagara engages CL St. Louis at 7,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Van Galen at 7,000 yards
DD Hatfield engages DD Mochizuki at 7,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages DD Thanet at 7,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Hatfield at 7,000 yards
CL Natori engages DE Decoy at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CL Natori engages DD Van Galen at 10,000 yards
CL Newcastle engages CL Isuzu at 10,000 yards
CL Nagara engages DD Hatfield at 10,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Thanet at 10,000 yards
Magazine explodes on DD Van Galen
DD Van Galen sunk by DD Mochizuki at 10,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages DD Stronghold at 10,000 yards
CL Nagara engages DE Decoy at 10,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
CL Nagara engages CL St. Louis at 11,000 yards
CL Newcastle engages CL Nagara at 11,000 yards
CL St. Louis engages CL Nagara at 11,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages DD Thanet at 11,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages DD Mochizuki at 11,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages DD Stronghold at 11,000 yards
CL Natori engages DE Decoy at 11,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
CL St. Louis engages CL Natori at 12,000 yards
CL Nagara engages CL Newcastle at 12,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages DD Hatfield at 12,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Thanet at 12,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages DD Tenedos at 12,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages DD Tenedos at 12,000 yards
CL Nagara engages DE Decoy at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
CL St. Louis engages CL Natori at 11,000 yards
CL Newcastle engages CL Nagara at 11,000 yards
DD Hatfield engages DD Mochizuki at 11,000 yards
DD Thanet engages DD Yayoi at 11,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Tenedos at 11,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Stronghold at 11,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Tenedos at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
CL Natori engages CL St. Louis at 10,000 yards
CL Natori engages CL Newcastle at 10,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages DD Hatfield at 10,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Hatfield at 10,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Hatfield at 10,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages DD Nagatsuki at 10,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Stronghold at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CL Newcastle engages CL Natori at 7,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CL Newcastle at 7,000 yards
CL Newcastle engages CL Nagara at 7,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages DD Mochizuki at 7,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages DD Stronghold at 7,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages DE Decoy at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CL Natori engages CL Newcastle at 9,000 yards
CL Nagara engages CL Newcastle at 9,000 yards
CL Newcastle engages CL Nagara at 9,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Thanet at 9,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages DD Mochizuki at 9,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages DD Stronghold at 9,000 yards
CL Natori engages DE Decoy at 9,000 yards
Kurakane J. orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range increases to 12,000 yards
CL Nagara engages CL St. Louis at 12,000 yards
CL Natori engages CL Newcastle at 12,000 yards
DD Hatfield engages DD Yayoi at 12,000 yards
DD Thanet engages DD Yuzuki at 12,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Tenedos at 12,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages DD Thanet at 12,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages DE Decoy at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
CL Nagara engages CL St. Louis at 11,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CL Newcastle at 11,000 yards
CL Nagara engages CL Newcastle at 11,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Thanet at 11,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages DD Yuzuki at 11,000 yards
DD Hatfield engages DD Nagatsuki at 11,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages DD Yayoi at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CL St. Louis engages CL Natori at 8,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CL St. Louis at 8,000 yards
CL Nagara engages CL St. Louis at 8,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Stronghold at 8,000 yards
DD Hatfield engages DD Mochizuki at 8,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Stronghold at 8,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages DE Decoy at 8,000 yards
CL St. Louis engages CL Natori at 8,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CL St. Louis at 8,000 yards
CL Nagara engages CL Newcastle at 8,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Thanet at 8,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Stronghold at 8,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages DD Tenedos at 8,000 yards
DD Hatfield engages DD Yayoi at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CL Natori engages CL Newcastle at 9,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CL St. Louis at 9,000 yards
CL Newcastle engages CL Nagara at 9,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Thanet at 9,000 yards
DD Hatfield engages DD Mochizuki at 9,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages DD Yayoi at 9,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DE Decoy at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
CL Natori engages CL St. Louis at 12,000 yards
CL Natori engages CL Newcastle at 12,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Hatfield at 12,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Thanet at 12,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Hatfield at 12,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages DD Stronghold at 12,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DE Decoy at 12,000 yards
CL Natori engages CL St. Louis at 12,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CL St. Louis at 12,000 yards
CL Nagara engages CL Newcastle at 12,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Tenedos at 12,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages DD Mochizuki at 12,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages DD Yayoi at 12,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DE Decoy at 12,000 yards
Range increases to 15,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CL St. Louis at 15,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CL Newcastle at 15,000 yards
CL St. Louis engages CL Nagara at 15,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Stronghold at 15,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages DD Tenedos at 15,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages DD Tenedos at 15,000 yards
DD Hatfield engages DD Yayoi at 15,000 yards
Range increases to 19,000 yards
CL Natori engages CL Newcastle at 19,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CL St. Louis at 19,000 yards
DD Thanet engages DD Mochizuki at 19,000 yards
DD Thanet engages DD Nagatsuki at 19,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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RE: The Anvil and the Hammer - 5/13/2012 3:05:24 AM   
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Then the St. Louis stayed on course and was headed to Rangoon....But the Yamato TF made the intercept!!! I suspect the Throw weight of the american CL had an effect in both battles.
Going into this battle I was holding my breath figuring all my ships would get sunk.

The PT boat battle above off Pegu caused the Musashi to go home and forced the Yamato to split her fire against 2 CLs and one survived!!!!

BTW, the Decoy took 3 smaller hits then got hit by an 18 inch shell from the Yamato. Display said the superstructure was carried away w/ one hit.



BB Yamato engages CL St. Louis at 12,000 yards
CL Newcastle engages DD Kisaragi at 12,000 yards
DD Hatfield engages DD Yugure at 12,000 yards
DD Yugure engages DD Thanet at 12,000 yards
DD Yugure engages DD Tenedos at 12,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Stronghold at 12,000 yards
BB Yamato engages DE Decoy at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL Newcastle at 7,000 yards
CL Newcastle engages DD Yugure at 7,000 yards
DD Yugure engages DD Hatfield at 7,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages DD Nenohi at 7,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages DD Yugure at 7,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages DD Yugure at 7,000 yards
DE Decoy sunk by BB Yamato at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL Newcastle at 8,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Hatfield at 8,000 yards
DD Yugure engages DD Hatfield at 8,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages DD Nenohi at 8,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages DD Hatsuharu at 8,000 yards
DD Hatsuharu engages DD Stronghold at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL Newcastle at 9,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages DD Kisaragi at 9,000 yards
DD Hatfield engages DD Nenohi at 9,000 yards
DD Nenohi engages DD Hatfield at 9,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages DD Hatsuharu at 9,000 yards
DD Yugure engages DD Stronghold at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL Newcastle at 11,000 yards
CL Newcastle sunk by BB Yamato at 11,000 yards
DD Yugure engages DD Tenedos at 11,000 yards
DD Thanet engages DD Hatsuharu at 11,000 yards
DD Hatsuharu engages DD Thanet at 11,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Stronghold at 11,000 yards
Range increases to 14,000 yards
CL St. Louis engages DD Kisaragi at 14,000 yards
DD Thanet engages DD Yugure at 14,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages DD Nenohi at 14,000 yards
DD Yugure engages DD Stronghold at 14,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL St. Louis at 14,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Hatfield at 14,000 yards
DD Hatsuharu engages DD Thanet at 14,000 yards
DD Nenohi engages DD Thanet at 14,000 yards
Range increases to 15,000 yards
CL St. Louis engages DD Nenohi at 15,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages DD Kisaragi at 15,000 yards
DD Yugure engages DD Hatfield at 15,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages DD Hatsuharu at 15,000 yards
DD Hatsuharu engages DD Hatfield at 15,000 yards
Rood, G. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range closes to 14,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL St. Louis at 14,000 yards
DD Thanet engages DD Yugure at 14,000 yards
DD Nenohi engages DD Tenedos at 14,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages DD Yugure at 14,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL St. Louis at 14,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages DD Kisaragi at 14,000 yards
DD Thanet engages DD Hatsuharu at 14,000 yards
DD Nenohi engages DD Tenedos at 14,000 yards
DD Yugure engages DD Stronghold at 14,000 yards
Range increases to 16,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL St. Louis at 16,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages DD Kisaragi at 16,000 yards
DD Yugure engages DD Tenedos at 16,000 yards
DD Yugure engages DD Stronghold at 16,000 yards
Hirata, Noboru orders Japanese TF to disengage
DD Kisaragi engages DD Hatfield at 16,000 yards
DD Thanet engages DD Hatsuharu at 16,000 yards
DD Hatfield engages DD Nenohi at 16,000 yards
DD Nenohi engages DD Stronghold at 16,000 yards
Range increases to 21,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL St. Louis at 21,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Thanet at 21,000 yards
DD Thanet engages DD Yugure at 21,000 yards
BB Yamato engages DD Tenedos at 21,000 yards
Range increases to 27,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL St. Louis at 27,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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RE: The Anvil and the Hammer - 5/13/2012 3:17:18 AM   
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So Rangoon has Resupply. And the KB is nipping at my ship and air strength !! I have alot of painful screen shots of escorted and unescorted DBs going after the CVs w/ 150 plane ftr CAP. Last turn I had about 5 damaged subs from heavy ASW, I did not think it was KB ASW Judies. Now I know better.




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RE: The Anvil and the Hammer - 5/13/2012 3:28:12 AM   
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On a brighter side, FatR lost half his 800AV in a 2 day assault at Toungoo.





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RE: The Anvil and the Hammer - 5/13/2012 3:40:18 AM   
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So does that mean you guys are still doing 2 day turns?

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RE: The Anvil and the Hammer - 5/21/2012 11:18:20 PM   
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So does that mean you guys are still doing 2 day turns?

yes

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RE: The Anvil and the Hammer - 5/21/2012 11:23:54 PM   
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KB in full glory...late 43.



Night Time Surface Combat, near Moulmein at 54,55, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CV Kaga
CV Hiryu
CV Soryu
CV Shokaku
CV Zuikaku
CV Akagi
CV Ryukaku
CV Taikaku
CLAA Tenryu
CLAA Tatsuta
DD Susuzuki
DD Niizuki
DD Yugumo
DD Makinami
DD Tamanami
DD Okinami
DD Yamakaze

Allied Ships
PT-107
PT-301



Poor visibility due to Rain with 7% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Rain and 7% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 25,000 yards...
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 2,000 yards
DD Makinami engages PT-301 at 2,000 yards
PT-301 engages CV Ryukaku at 2,000 yards
DD Makinami engages PT-301 at 2,000 yards
Wesenberg, O.N. orders Allied TF to disengage
DD Makinami engages PT-301 at 2,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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RE: The Anvil and the Hammer - 5/21/2012 11:24:45 PM   
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Problems at Rangoon...




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RE: The Anvil and the Hammer - 5/22/2012 11:26:32 AM   
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Urggh- I'm going to have to face that monster in late 44 or 45. Just lost all my CVE's in March 43 and 2 fleet carriers. Down to 4 fleet carriers with no return damage on KB.

Bloody disaster off Java

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RE: The Ghost replay - 5/22/2012 3:23:59 PM   
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This naval air attacks did not show on the replay but is in the report. I sense a lack of experience from the TBF air crews.. The allies have a functional CV division operating off Sabang. Also I note the japs are able to send unlimited ground troops w/ the conquest of China. I cant cut off the head but I can cut off the tail.
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Victoria Point at 49,65

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 24



Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 48
SBD-5 Dauntless x 28
TBF-1 Avenger x 34


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 6 destroyed
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak
TBF-1 Avenger: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Bomb hits 3
CVE Hosho, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVL Chiyoda, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Shinyo
DD Haruzuki
DD Hatsukaze
DD Yukikaze



Aircraft Attacking:
13 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
17 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
8 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
7 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
934 Ku S-1 with A6M8 Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 11 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
954 Ku T-2 with A6M8 Zero (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 3 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes

Fuel storage explosion on CVE Hosho
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Chiyoda

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Phuket at 48,67

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes


Allied aircraft
TBF-1 Avenger x 8


Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Toa Maru, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
AK Hitati Maru, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Japanese ground losses:
3604 casualties reported
Squads: 75 destroyed, 68 disabled
Non Combat: 114 destroyed, 62 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 37 (35 destroyed, 2 disabled)



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..


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In a naval battle off Gasmata...




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In a large troop transport mission to Salamanoa IJAAF reacts...




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FatR tried to push me into the sea.





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And the continued air attack at Mandalay as the Rangoon operation deteriorates.



Morning Air attack on 39th Division, at 59,46 (Mandalay)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 66 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9
B-24J Liberator x 44
B-25D1 Mitchell x 15
P-40K Warhawk x 10
P-40N5 Warhawk x 10
F4F-4 Wildcat x 15
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 23


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
747 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 32 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 66 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 53rd Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Tank Division ...
Also attacking 48th Division ...
Also attacking Southern Army ...
Also attacking 39th Division ...
Also attacking 53rd Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Tank Division ...
Also attacking 48th Division ...
Also attacking Southern Army ...
Also attacking 39th Division ...
Also attacking 53rd Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Tank Division ...
Also attacking 48th Division ...
Also attacking 39th Division ...
Also attacking 53rd Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Tank Division ...
Also attacking 48th Division ...
Also attacking Southern Army ...


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RE: The Ghost replay - 5/23/2012 5:18:54 AM   
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The CV damage to hosho seems not to have caused sinking based on "no kates listed as destroyed on ground". As I lost 2 fletcher class DDs off gasmata on 12-29 a sub finished one Cl on the return to Rabaul.




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RE: The Ghost replay - 5/23/2012 7:00:58 AM   
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Note the musashi...




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RE: The Ghost replay - 5/23/2012 7:02:32 AM   
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43dec31: The KB seems to have posted itself off Rangoon, even w/ the threat of an allied CV TF operating off the coast of Sumatra. I would suspect some portion of his force has been sent to the south. In any event I found some large targets operating in the Georgetown area.
If FatR pulls the KB from Rangoon allied air power will suppress the Rangoon forces..



Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Medan at 46,76

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes


Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 31
SBD-5 Dauntless x 26


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
TK Kanzaki Maru
PB Fuji Maru, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
TK Ryuei Maru, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
TK Nishi Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Tennan Maru, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
TK Toen Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Terukawa Maru, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
TK Moji Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage



Aircraft Attacking:
14 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
12 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK Ryuei Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK Nishi Maru
Massive explosion on TK Nishi Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK Toen Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK Terukawa Maru

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RE: The Ghost replay - 5/25/2012 4:48:46 AM   
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Last turn I had a 50 ship landing force at Salamanica. I felt FatR could react from Rabaul w/ his Kowachi TF and I was uncomfortable leaving this large landing group w/in strike distance so I ordered a "stop unload" and did the old "side step" back to Milne bay. And FatR did sink some LCTs(barges) I was using in the area. But my main landing force w/LST/APA is ok--this turn.. We switched to one day turn and the Kowachi Group stayed in the day at Salamonica, he CAPed the hex and my Beaufort sqn did get mauled. I dont want to give out specifics but I did send "significant" reserve TFs to join the landing fleet. Now my landing fleet is sitting in the Lae bay between Kwachi and Rabaul.

Mission--DESTROY THE IJN Kowachi TF AT ALL COST and open naval surface access thru the Finchshaven gap.




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This attack at Rangoon seems an abort. I suspect not all IJA divisions participated. I counted 1800ija av. Could be the 1st marine div is having an effect on the ground...what a massive unit...maybe I get a double also for being in a city hex. FatR may need to send in some CAs for bombardment. But if they do then I might be waiting down south W/ my CV TFs as they reload!!!
I wish I had made my screenshot near the end of the battle.



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What a battle! Congratulations on some good victories in the past few weeks and from fighting back from the position you received from me. I doubt however that the Musashi is sunk, seemingly every torpedoed ship is automatically put on the ships sunk list.

I think those guys in Rangoon should be OK, providing they have the supplies, they will get a large defensive bonus for being in Rangoon. How many guys have you got near Prome, and are they headed on a relief mission?

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There is a possibility the Pennsylvania BB TF will engage the Kowachi TF next turn. Here is a look at the extra toys FatR gets for his surface fleet.




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RE: The Ghost replay - 5/26/2012 2:36:20 AM   
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This is a list of sunk Jap Cruisers. So he still has alot of extra CAs. All IJN BBs have been seen at Rangoon except maybe the Kongo BBs, but I think they are operating inside the KB CV TF. Note 5 sunk Agano CLs...looks like IJN has 3 Tone class cruisers left. @ of these three are at Salmanuia w/ the Kowachi...




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This is a comparison of the Kawachi against the Penn.




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This is the TF FatR used to try to CAP trap me at Salamaua(and sat there in daylight), humm, I dont think these are Tone class CAs...Maybe more are at Rabaul...

One thing is for sure, we will have a naval battle around Lea Bay w/ the Kawachi before relief arrives from Rabaul.
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Salamaua at 98,127, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CB Kawachi
CA Maya
CA Mogami
CA Mikuma
DD Shikinami
DD Oboro
DD Akebono
DD Asanagi

Allied Ships
LCT-175, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
LCT-176, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
LCT-177, Shell hits 1, and is sunk



Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 20,000 yards
LCT-177 sunk by CB Kawachi at 20,000 yards
LCT-175 sunk by CB Kawachi at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards
LCT-176 sunk by CB Kawachi at 18,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...


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RE: The Ghost replay - 5/26/2012 11:41:59 PM   
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One other issue this turn. At lashio a relief force is pushing toward Mandalay.




Ground combat at 61,46 (near Lashio)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 12445 troops, 106 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 438

Defending force 9848 troops, 67 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 429

Japanese adjusted assault: 424

Allied adjusted defense: 2794

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 6

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1920 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 197 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled


Allied ground losses:
169 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 32 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
2nd Guards Division

Defending units:
1st Chinese Corps

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