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Rare panzer found - 4/22/2010 4:46:13 PM   
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RE: Rare panzer found - 4/22/2010 5:31:22 PM   
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Was that the Mr. Bean class?




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RE: Rare panzer found - 4/22/2010 5:50:49 PM   
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Wow.....that should be added to JTCS now.

There seems to be two tiny soldiers in the back but no driver...

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RE: Rare panzer found - 4/22/2010 5:53:50 PM   
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...two tiny soldiers in the back


Ahh, that's it. The Italian Auxiliary Core!



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RE: Rare panzer found - 4/22/2010 7:05:33 PM   
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Looks like the predecessor to "the Maus"....(as used by the Volks-squirm?)

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RE: Rare panzer found - 4/22/2010 7:11:33 PM   
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That auxiliary fuel tank looks a bit vulnerable but is obviously intended for deep breakthroughs.

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RE: Rare panzer found - 4/22/2010 7:22:02 PM   
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It's perfect for the Eastern Front where the weather is tough, the body won't corrode ...cause it's is made out of plastic :D

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RE: Rare panzer found - 4/22/2010 8:14:55 PM   
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Looks like a Trabant. Funny little cars which got produced in the GDR.

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RE: Rare panzer found - 4/22/2010 8:39:19 PM   
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Looks like a Trabant. Funny little cars which got produced in the GDR.


2 cylinders, right?

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RE: Rare panzer found - 4/22/2010 11:00:46 PM   
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Cute <3

I fear that with the added hatch and extra equipment, it'll be at risk of collapsing under its own weight, though...


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RE: Rare panzer found - 4/23/2010 6:19:35 AM   
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It's an "IED". That one is planned to be used once the allies occupy Germany. But in order to not be classed as terrorists, they paited the thing with military markings.


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RE: Rare panzer found - 4/23/2010 7:03:23 AM   
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My riding lawnmower had a bigger engine than a Trabant......or so my uncle from Poland said when he saw my lawnmower 25 years ago......

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RE: Rare panzer found - 4/23/2010 7:45:45 AM   
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Looks like a Trabant. Funny little cars which got produced in the GDR.


2 cylinders, right?


There are a lot of 2 cylinder sportsbikes that produce big power and torque. Admittedly Trabants didn't

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RE: Rare panzer found - 4/23/2010 4:20:30 PM   
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It reminds me of when I owned a '72 Ford LTD station wagon... I always wanted to paint it up like an aircraft carrier because it seemed big enough to launch and land carrier planes without a catapult and arresting wires. For some reason, my wife would never let me (it was primarily her car.

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RE: Rare panzer found - 4/23/2010 4:30:06 PM   
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It reminds me of when I owned a '72 Ford LTD station wagon... I always wanted to paint it up like an aircraft carrier because it seemed big enough to launch and land carrier planes without a catapult and arresting wires. For some reason, my wife would never let me (it was primarily her car.


Or an early-late seventies cadillac....My old 1980 diesel Eldorado would have been the perfect launching pad

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RE: Rare panzer found - 4/23/2010 4:55:44 PM   
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I'd buy that...love to drive around liverpool in it.

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RE: Rare panzer found - 4/23/2010 6:07:36 PM   
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quote:

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It reminds me of when I owned a '72 Ford LTD station wagon... I always wanted to paint it up like an aircraft carrier because it seemed big enough to launch and land carrier planes without a catapult and arresting wires. For some reason, my wife would never let me (it was primarily her car.


Or an early-late seventies cadillac....My old 1980 diesel Eldorado would have been the perfect launching pad


That would work as well! Or a Buick Electra 225 would do in a pinch.

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RE: Rare panzer found - 4/23/2010 6:36:21 PM   
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My riding lawnmower had a bigger engine than a Trabant......or so my uncle from Poland said when he saw my lawnmower 25 years ago......




Yep. My point about the 2-cylinder thing. Forgot to mention it was the size of a push mower engine. Or maybe just a scooter engine with some sheet metal around it.

I bet it wouldn't take much to get killed in one.

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RE: Rare panzer found - 4/23/2010 7:27:44 PM   
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My riding lawnmower had a bigger engine than a Trabant......or so my uncle from Poland said when he saw my lawnmower 25 years ago......




Yep. My point about the 2-cylinder thing. Forgot to mention it was the size of a push mower engine. Or maybe just a scooter engine with some sheet metal around it.

I bet it wouldn't take much to get killed in one.


A push mower with 500-600cc? And a typical scooter engine is less than 150cc. Also, apparently the Duroplast (not sheet metal) body-shell of the Trabant was very strong and, according to Wikipedia, they actually outperformed contemporary Western hatchbacks in crash tests (although the placement of the fuel tank is a bit of a worry).

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RE: Rare panzer found - 4/23/2010 8:24:46 PM   
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My riding lawnmower had a bigger engine than a Trabant......or so my uncle from Poland said when he saw my lawnmower 25 years ago......




Yep. My point about the 2-cylinder thing. Forgot to mention it was the size of a push mower engine. Or maybe just a scooter engine with some sheet metal around it.

I bet it wouldn't take much to get killed in one.


At the speed you could drive with those things... yes it did take quite a lot to get killed in them.

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RE: Rare panzer found - 4/24/2010 3:31:38 AM   
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At the speed you could drive with those things... yes it did take quite a lot to get killed in them.


The Trabant 601 had a max speed of ~107 km/h (66 miles/hour), still sufficient to kill yourself or others, I'd say.

The Trabant performed poorly in a crashtest, but there are people claiming that this test's setup had been altered, as a crashtest expert (Professor Danner from a major insurance company - the Allianz AG) conducted a test with a Trabant setting up a higher impact energy (11.4 % higher) than in all other tests (with other brands). There was a German tv-doc reporting about it, but from this short excerpt on youtube ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0VJqkP1CqQ&feature=related&fmt=18 ) I can't really see convincing evidence other than the statements from this guy. The insurance company alledgedly tried to get the Trabants off German streets (as they may have thought they'd be either a security risk or killing the insurance companies' profits (as the Trabant had small engines and usually a low number of damage/loss cases, which would have resulted in low insurance fees.

Whatsoever, the East Germans saw the Trabant's innerds and look as relic from the 60s anyways, despite the last Trabant (1.1, around 1990, IIRC) featuring a 4-cylinder Polo Volkswagen engine, so they preferred used cars from West German car dealers. The market for used cars here in the West was pretty much widely swept bare right before and shortly after the reunion. As the East Germans weren't used to cars going 200 km/h (124 miles/h) and more, quite some of them crashed their cars on East German highways (which mostly consisted of concrete paving slabs that were placed in a continuous row), or even got into the oncoming traffic, as most East German highways had no central barrier back then, resulting in quite a few fatal accidents. So whatever the Allianz company had in mind, the general inexperience of East German drivers (regarding high speeds and Western cars) and their hunger for Western cars kinda backfired on them and other West German insurance companies.


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