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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 1/24/2010 9:15:15 PM   
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I hope it helps. It is a very good game, but the controls can be frustrating.

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 1/24/2010 10:24:52 PM   
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Maybe the interface will be better in new version,i tried the demo and deleted it after frustration.

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 1/24/2010 11:17:15 PM   
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...(i.e. JD's problems driving up a steep incline in an underpowered Matilda)

My problem with games like this then are not realism. If the underpowered Matilda finds it nigh impossible to get up a steep incline, don't give it to me in the bloody tutorial. I didn't get past the tutorial because of this and it was precisely because I couldn't get past the tutorial I wasted £25.

If you're going to make a tutorial, then make it easy/fun/enjoyable whilst at the same time being informative. Don't make it impossible and put the user off right away! What a dumb idea.


Fair comment.

But it was informative...tanks powered by two bus engines welded together only work on the flat.

lol - also a fair comment.

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 1/25/2010 11:37:29 AM   
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Jd I had the same problem. But I stuck at it and it is well worth that tribulation.

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/13/2010 11:05:40 AM   
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Steel Fury 1942 is an outstanding WW2 tank sim...feels more like a real WW2 war simulator. I get the feeling that my tank is part of the overall battle...I'm not the center of it, just another piece of puzzle - I really like that! ...




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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/17/2010 11:49:07 PM   
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i like

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 English demo is out - 2/18/2010 3:40:03 PM   
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English demo is out. Info here: http://www.wargamer.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=410176

Use this link if you don't want to go through FilePlanet.

http://www.bigdownload.com/games/achtung-panzer-kharkov-1943/pc/achtung-panzer-kharkov-1943-demo/

p.s. the pre-order is on sale at GG



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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 English demo is out - 2/18/2010 5:20:35 PM   
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and at 19.95 sells for about the cost , or less of an add on... or three planes in ROF!!!
I was able t odl this and will do a side by side between it and Tow2(BF) Kursk after each is fully released... This feels totally different than the TOW2 title, not better, just different...
I will wait till each is out and do a full in depth side by side..

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/21/2010 8:01:55 PM   
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Been playing the demo and I love this game. It finally feels like a 3d Close Combat with some combat mission thrown in.

I hate RTS games but this is the first one since the CC series that I can handle. One hell of a game that Im going to buy as soon as possible.

Love it

One game Matrix should have snapped up. I remember trying to get Dave to contact the developers of Steel Fury once Lighthouse went bust. I think he had problems contacting them, I tried for him but to no avail.

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/22/2010 1:16:31 AM   
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I am guardedly optimistic. The demo had a walk through for its command console that steps you through. Which is good cause the controls are alien. Lots of ambiance, I thought the battlefield was haunted , background flares and nice little lighting touches. The battlefield seems vast. Uses groupings by squad or platoon. No individual man control. But you can move a squad to a single spot or have them find their own cover, which they do better than I.

I haven't quite grasped the grand strategy part of the game. There was a grid that had T 34's in it. They performed rather smart. If you are looking to micro manage your units you might be disappointed. Your units will stop to fire at targets of opportunity on their own. I had no problem with that as it was an eventual threat anyways.

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/22/2010 7:48:37 AM   
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I agree about the game atmosphere. It is second to none.

This really is a battlefield simulator (I chose simulator option so Im not sure how arcade plays out).

The lack of micromanagement is a godsend. Thank god I say.

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/22/2010 7:59:34 AM   
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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/22/2010 8:20:35 AM   
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and the pre orde rprice is 15% off.. under 17$ wow.. I found the demo tedious, and wonderful, I loved the ambiance but the jury really is out.. seems like a lot of game.. moving on the strategic map.. what to advance not in the active sim map.. all of which I think will help this title do soemthing we have been begging from CM and tow for years, link battles... I really agree too on the sounds... and the lighting as dawn cam along... I cannot weigh to actualy see how it performs as I could not get my head around watching German armored troops roll over my red infantry dudes.. in the demo.. so we will see..
I wil ldo a review of this side by side againstthe new TOW2(.5) Kursk and though they are very diffenent animals they both cover similar ground and it should be interesting...

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/22/2010 10:15:27 PM   
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I managed to win as the Russkies once!

The trick is to call a cease fire and keep your fingers crossed that the jerries take enough casualties to agree.

I played tonight and had my arse handed to me on a plate. I did take out three light tanks and four troop carriers and 40 men but was firmly trounced cand called a retreat which ended the operation.

I agree it can take awhile for the action to start but that adds to the tension hoping that they attack along the routes my anit tank guns are set up...sometimes I get it right other times Im flanked and buggered.

I tried the tow 2 Kursk demo and found it far more gamey and RTS fodder like. From the gameplay to the graphics and ambience it really felt like so many other RTS games....plus the micromanagement was a killer for me the unit load became way to much.

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/23/2010 12:42:41 AM   
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 I actually liked tow2.5 demo, althouhg once you figure out how t owin as german you kind of have an easy time rolling the enemy...

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/23/2010 11:54:08 PM   
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Game looks cool.. but the controls are strange and not easy to work... I hate how when you click on the mini map, it spins the view around...

I think I may pick it up though

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/24/2010 9:35:37 AM   
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its very cheap....about £12 from gamersgate....download only....

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/24/2010 9:45:30 AM   
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Game looks cool.. but the controls are strange and not easy to work... I hate how when you click on the mini map, it spins the view around...

I think I may pick it up though


I HATE the mini map...worthless.

Aside from that, the demo seems interesting.

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/24/2010 10:27:21 PM   
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Anyone know if this will be available in retail stores on a CD/DVD?

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/24/2010 10:50:20 PM   
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Anyone know if this will be available in retail stores on a CD/DVD?


You should really ask this on the graviteam forum. Last I saw no, not in stores.

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/25/2010 11:38:56 PM   
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I just got Achtung Panzer 1943 today, and I have been playing whole day. I have to say for my point of view Achtung Panzer is the best WW2 tactical combat wargame simulator on PC today. Achtung Panzer is to the WW2 tactical wargames on PC as what IL2 is to the flight sims on PC....it's a benchmark...the best $20 CAD I ever spent on wargame for my computer. The other great thing is if you buy it from GamersGate or Impulsedriven ... there is no DRM!!! :)

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/26/2010 12:01:37 AM   
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Tried the Demo again today.. as the Ruskies... My AT gun hit the track on Pz III.. the Panzer III then tried to move away.. but the track just laid out behind it till it ran out.. I was sold!!!.. Downloading now!

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/26/2010 12:05:36 AM   
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OK.. now this is the reason I don't like Gamers Gate.. showing 16KBS.. this happened to me with Medieval Total war.. takes forever to download!!!!.. Yesterday wasn't bad with Arsenal of Democracy. .that was going more like 300 kbs.. and smaller file

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/26/2010 12:11:20 AM   
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OK.. now this is the reason I don't like Gamers Gate.. showing 16KBS.. this happened to me with Medieval Total war.. takes forever to download!!!!.. Yesterday wasn't bad with Arsenal of Democracy. .that was going more like 300 kbs.. and smaller file


In one of the demo operation mission, I had 4 AT guns (but they only have few AP rounds each), the enemy tank platoon engaged my AT battery. Few of the tanks went straight against me...while others flanked me...I lost all the guns this way. Also watch out for tank platoon moving, I have seen one of the tanks standing still observing the enemy while the others move...cool stuff!

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/26/2010 1:37:03 PM   
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I just got Achtung Panzer 1943 today, and I have been playing whole day. I have to say for my point of view Achtung Panzer is the best WW2 tactical combat wargame simulator on PC today. Achtung Panzer is to the WW2 tactical wargames on PC as what IL2 is to the flight sims on PC....it's a benchmark...the best $20 CAD I ever spent on wargame for my computer.


Thank you for your opinion!

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REVIEWS - "Achtung Panzer:Kharkov 1943":

EGC games - Review - February, 2010
Rate: 7,8
http://www.egcgames.com/content.php?id=1884

Eurogamer.dk - Review - February, 2010
Rate: 8
http://www.eurogamer.dk/articles/achtung-panzer-kharkov-1943-anmeldelse

Girlgamersuk - Review - February, 2010
Rate: 7
http://www.girlgamersuk.com/2010/02/achtung-panzer-kharkov-1943-2/

GameOn - Review - February, 2010
Rate: 8,5
http://www.gameon.co.uk/game/review/pc/achtung-panzer-kharkov-1943-pc-review





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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/26/2010 5:40:40 PM   
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Gutted. Me and the missus argued yesterday and she was going to buy me the game today....ho hum...

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/27/2010 12:06:29 AM   
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All the info Ive read about this game suggests that I dont really need to try the demo to make up my mind. These guys have earned my moneys and I hope they make more of games like this. The fact  that it costs only 17€ is kind of steal though.

Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 Main Features:

* Great replayability and flexible AI behaviour: “smart” AI analyses tactical movements of player and chooses the best strategy based on opponents’ behaviour, rather than following scripts. It allows players to complete the same scenarios using different tactics as if playing with human player.
* Thorough re-creation of weapons, artillery and vehicles: all battle characteristics, including missile trajectories or number of crew, were modeled according to military archive materials and WW2 chronicles.
* Destructible environment: blast and destroy almost everything, from ground terrain to houses and enemy defences. All traces of previous battles (shell-holes, broken vehicles, corpses, etc.) are left on the battlefield until the end of the scenario.
* Real ballistics: bullets and projectiles follow authentic trajectories. Proper shot longitude, number of frags and their range are calculated.
* Real vehicle damage system: engine, suspension, weapons, aiming appliances can all be damaged separately, affecting the combat abilities of the vehicle.
* Real soldiers' behaviour: every soldier has some basic parameters, such as experience level, fatigue and morale that affect his behaviour and effectiveness.
* Military Encyclopaedia with 3D model viewer and detailed data on all units, describing their historical and in-game characteristics.
*2 control modes: turn-based strategic mode and real-time tactical mode

EDIT: Physical collectors edition coming in may for 23€:
http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/13705728/Kharkov-1943-Collector-Edition/Product.html


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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/27/2010 12:51:05 AM   
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I just digital downloaded from stardock. Those of you who are used to easy purchase and play at matrix are gonna be in for a shocker when dowloading for the first time from Impulse. Yea you get an installed game on your computer, but no file you can transfer to a DVD, and a whole lot of other crap installed on your PC you don't want. never again. Hope it works cause there aint no support for 48hrs. Lesson learned.

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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/27/2010 1:09:01 AM   
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I bought it from gamersgate and it does let me keep the install files. I didnt notice any other crap. There was VC++ distributable but its just a visual C++ library file. The game works just fine for me. Havent had any problems (Ill go play it now).


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RE: Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943 - 2/27/2010 4:27:28 AM   
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Gamers Gate version has nothing funky going on.. lol.. just took awhile to download cause of bad speeds.. but there's a file to backup for future reinstalls..

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