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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/5/2013 10:34:18 PM   
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Cap I think the USN got the whole transaction and dialogue wrong ...

Well dressed man .. looks like an older mature Marlon Brando .. speaks like he has cotton in his mouth: "Quite a club you have going here ... all these huts made of dry grass .. I would hate for something bad to happen .."

Young man in fine linen slacks: What do you mean "...something bad.."

[Joe Pesci type takes a portion of a grass hut and uses it as tinder to light up a fine cuban cigar ...]

Marlon Brando type: "You never know when a fire can suddenly errupt .. or a bartender might suddenly need dental work ...but .. I can help you make sure this does not happen .."

Young man in fine linen slacks: Oh!?! How?

Marlon Brando type: You know this guy Hideo Kuboki has been moving in on our business ... if he had an accident or something... I am sure my boys will insure nothin' bad happends to your joint.......




Oh, oh! Is Marissa Tomei going to be in this too? I like her.

If the mission to take out Yamamoto had been handled this way you wouldn't have war crimes lawyers arguing about it 70 years later.


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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/5/2013 10:47:16 PM   
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Oh, oh! Is Marissa Tomei going to be in this too? I like her.

Her finest work was in The Wrestler.

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/5/2013 11:11:04 PM   
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If the mission to take out Yamamoto had been handled this way you wouldn't have war crimes lawyers arguing about it 70 years later.


Hmmmm I am thinking Vito Corleone takes out Yamamoto, Tojo, & Hirohito in a dramatic sequence of plane crash, "comfort woman," and poisoned Sushi ... with MacArthur kissing the ring in the final scene ... We can work Marissa Tomei as the comfort woman with a samari sword .. able to do what Tojo could not

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/5/2013 11:41:38 PM   
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***************Seaplane hangar, Papaete, (18:43), March 21, 1943(c)***********


<There is a giant 3-d plaster of paris map of the Phillipines up on saw horses>

FAM: Damn! That is beautiful, isn't it?

Lucha: Sure is boss.

FAM: I ordered a company of Marines to air drop on Roxas today. If JJ is going to leave airfields unguarded, we will take them.

Monana: Did you say Roxas, sir? I thought there used to be a Japanese flag there?

FAM: SANTA MARIA! Used to be a flag? Did somebody touch my map?

Lucha: Well, the maid was in here dusting, you know, the really short one...............

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/6/2013 3:50:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

quote:

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

Cap I think the USN got the whole transaction and dialogue wrong ...

Well dressed man .. looks like an older mature Marlon Brando .. speaks like he has cotton in his mouth: "Quite a club you have going here ... all these huts made of dry grass .. I would hate for something bad to happen .."

Young man in fine linen slacks: What do you mean "...something bad.."

[Joe Pesci type takes a portion of a grass hut and uses it as tinder to light up a fine cuban cigar ...]

Marlon Brando type: "You never know when a fire can suddenly errupt .. or a bartender might suddenly need dental work ...but .. I can help you make sure this does not happen .."

Young man in fine linen slacks: Oh!?! How?

Marlon Brando type: You know this guy Hideo Kuboki has been moving in on our business ... if he had an accident or something... I am sure my boys will insure nothin' bad happends to your joint.......




Oh, oh! Is Marissa Tomei going to be in this too? I like her.

If the mission to take out Yamamoto had been handled this way you wouldn't have war crimes lawyers arguing about it 70 years later.



The whole protection racket's been tried by the Ficotti brothers before. The Brits had to give 'em 15 bob to get 'em off their backs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNZKUozrBl4

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/6/2013 2:59:32 PM   
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****************March 21, 1943(c)***************

Roxas: Good news! I guess the Mayan maid did NOT knock over the flag over Roxas! This is what you call WIPT:Micro Edition. 70 Marines take Roxas. Looks like the CO got points for looks but was deducted on the talent portion or something.


Ground combat at Roxas (79,83)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 70 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 6

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 7

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Roxas !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
3rd USMC Parachute Bn /2


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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/6/2013 3:03:31 PM   
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Manado: Thank God and Greyhound! Finarry! Joint probabry stinks to high heaven. Nobody has been tidying up I expect.

Ground combat at Manado (75,99)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 11254 troops, 243 guns, 383 vehicles, Assault Value = 351

Defending force 5384 troops, 55 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 106

Allied adjusted assault: 300

Japanese adjusted defense: 75

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Manado !!!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-46-IIIb Dinah: 5 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
819 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 43 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 18 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 15 (6 destroyed, 9 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
402 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 5 disabled


Assaulting units:
148th Infantry Regiment
145th Infantry Regiment
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
129th Infantry Regiment
131st Combat Engineer Regiment
821st Engineer Aviation Battalion
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
97th Field Artillery Battalion
148th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
17th Garrison Unit
3rd JNAF AF Unit
44th Field AA Battalion
9th JNAF Coy
68th JAAF AF Bn

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/6/2013 3:06:10 PM   
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Davao: They are starting to crack. Can you imagine what 13K LYB's at Manira are going to be like?

Ground combat at Davao (79,91)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 11537 troops, 332 guns, 298 vehicles, Assault Value = 252

Defending force 4906 troops, 62 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 48

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Allied adjusted assault: 144

Japanese adjusted defense: 91

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
345 casualties reported
Squads: 29 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
106 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
22nd Marine Regiment
132nd Infantry Regiment
161st Infantry Regiment
225th Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
205th Field Artillery Battalion
25th USN Naval Construction Battalion
21/22 Field Regiment

Defending units:
15th Garrison Unit /1
Sasebo 8th SNLF /1
39th JNAF AF Unit
40th JNAF AF Unit
1st Engineer Co
108th JAAF AF Bn

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/6/2013 3:11:12 PM   
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Baybay: You gotta love night bombardment. About 3x the number of planes are rerported destroyed damaged as are at the base. This should take out Baybay as a threat to the amphibious force as they move up. Now we need to take out Manira, Clark and Altimonan.

Night Naval bombardment of Baybay at 81,86

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 40 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 13 damaged
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-56 Thalia: 1 damaged
Ki-56 Thalia: 1 destroyed on ground
A6M2 Zero: 6 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed on ground
A6M3a Zero: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Pensacola
CA Chicago
DD Hughes
DD O'Bannon

Japanese ground losses:
110 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)



Manpower hits 9
Resources hits 1
Fires 730
Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 21
Port hits 11
Port fuel hits 8
Port supply hits 1


We also take out 2 annoying minisubs.

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/6/2013 3:13:11 PM   
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San Jose: Smallish fighter sweep. We win. The RCAF squadron went back to Cagayan for R&R

Morning Air attack on San Jose , at 78,84

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6



Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 20
F4F-4 Wildcat x 6
F4U-1 Corsair x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/6/2013 3:16:01 PM   
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Taytay: We test the "waters" over Taytay. Someobody terr us Yamamoto coming to visit.

Morning Air attack on Taytay , at 75,82

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11



Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 4


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/6/2013 3:17:04 PM   
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Saumlaki: Makes raspberry sound

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Saumlaki at 78,117

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 8



Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
AK Celeno

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/6/2013 3:20:41 PM   
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Burma: Some idiot advised Admiral Lord Sprior there were no fighters at Mandaray!

Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 14



Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 21
Wellington Ic x 11
Wellington GR.VIII x 10


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator II: 4 damaged
Wellington Ic: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Wellington GR.VIII: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5


Well, not sure if that was worth breaking a couple of Herens

Afternoon Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 9



Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 6


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 15

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/6/2013 3:25:51 PM   
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Jungle near Kalemyo: 6th Guards Div has been on a Boy Scout Jamboree for months. ALS goes after them. I suspect it is a diversion..or perhaps just to wear them down should they try to move to the coast. It also gives the Vengeance drivers soemthing to do.

Morning Air attack on 4th Guards Division, at 59,43 , near Kalemyo

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIc x 14
Hurricane IIb Trop x 4
Hurricane IIc Trop x 7
Vengeance I x 62


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/6/2013 3:56:23 PM   
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Jungle near Kalemyo: 6th Guards Div has been on a Boy Scout Jamboree for months.


I wonder if they ran into the 4th Guards whilest there to say 'herro'.

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/6/2013 5:02:12 PM   
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quote:

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Jungle near Kalemyo: 6th Guards Div has been on a Boy Scout Jamboree for months.


I wonder if they ran into the 4th Guards whilest there to say 'herro'.


That is the new code we have implented to confuse spies.

B=A+int(sqrt(A))

The Ritter Yerrow Baaahstards never figure out.

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/6/2013 6:48:54 PM   
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The Brits had to give 'em 15 bob to get 'em off their backs:


Bloody hell, prices have gone up. It used to be half a crown for the whole of Pompey dockyard.

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/6/2013 6:50:00 PM   
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Some idiot advised Admiral Lord Sprior there were no fighters at Mandaray!


There should have been an escort but looks like the fighter drivers stayed in their pits.

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/6/2013 7:10:06 PM   
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Some idiot advised Admiral Lord Sprior there were no fighters at Mandaray!


There should have been an escort but looks like the fighter drivers stayed in their pits.



Several possibilities:

1) Nobody wants to be seen around the GR.VIII

2) Pilot's Union agitators stirring the boys up over the new pension contribution rules.

3) Bottle fatigue

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/6/2013 7:22:46 PM   
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4. They're gits.

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/6/2013 7:23:42 PM   
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By the way, I've got various odds and sods getting into boats at Madras. We're all looking forward to seeing the tit pagoda.

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/7/2013 1:34:12 AM   
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So what is your Japanese opponent trying to do to stop the relentless push up to Manila and beyond? What does he have left at this point on land, sea and air? Can you show the latest Intel report stats on damage, kills, sunk ships etc?

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/7/2013 2:15:19 AM   
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So what is your Japanese opponent trying to do to stop the relentless push up to Manila and beyond? What does he have left at this point on land, sea and air? Can you show the latest Intel report stats on damage, kills, sunk ships etc?


They are definitely putting up a stiffer defense the further North we go.

After Darwin fell, they had quite a defensive line built up from Southern Java to Flores to Timor to Ambon to Sorong but there were quite a few existing small airfields that were unguarded. That was a weakness. We just bypassed their major bases after damaging the airfield with the heavies from Darwin. When we attacked Dobo they responded with 1 1/2 divisions and did take the island back...so we went around. Sorong cosnumed the equivalent of a whole division but did fall on the first attack. Manado was a serious obstacle but has just fallen. It was supposed to be the major naval logistical base so we had to use Ternate instead.

Not knowing at first where we were going, they heavily reinforced Hollandia and Palau. I am pretty sure they have worked out that Luzon is the target.

Clark has 9K troops. Manila 13K (I think a recon regt just arrived after landing in SE Luzon). There are 100+ bombers at Clark and 30 at Manila. There will be more on Formosa I expect. They built up the airfield at Baybay (now wrecked) and stopped us at Taytay for now.

As for BB's the only one we have seen in action recently is Haruna. Yamato was sunk in the fight for Darwin and Musashi was beat up pretty badly by Washington. Both sides had heavy BB losses at Port Hedrland and New Caledonia.

As for carriers, there are 4 decks of some type in the taffy NW of Luzon.

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/7/2013 5:53:47 AM   
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By the way, I've got various odds and sods getting into boats at Madras. We're all looking forward to seeing the tit pagoda.



Naturally, I had to look up "tit pagoda". He's not making it up, although I found it something of a disappointment.

Swhe Tant Tit Pagoda, Burma




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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/7/2013 2:11:55 PM   
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Mouseover of the IJN carrier NW of Manira now show FIVE decks with 135 aircraft.

We know Kaga is operational, perhaps Soryu. What else in March 43 Scenario 2?





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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/7/2013 2:14:46 PM   
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He's not making it up,


Do I make things up?






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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/7/2013 2:20:45 PM   
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He's not making it up,


Do I make things up?








Wow. That is a serious tata. Do they come in a pair?

I ray 10:1 Ritter Yerrow Baahstards peel off gord reaf before you get there.

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/7/2013 2:28:41 PM   
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As for BB's the only one we have seen in action recently is Haruna


Cap that would be the "&*%$#% Haruna"

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What else in March 42 Scenario 2?


That would be 1943 would it not? I bet Chickenboy knows ..

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/7/2013 2:46:27 PM   
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Yes, March 43, corrected...and yes, it's &*$#(@)@)* Haruna.

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/7/2013 2:54:41 PM   
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IJN BB's sunk. I think the list is pretty good but I never trust report on Nagato becasue we have sunk her at least 3 times.

Musashi was clobbered by Washington, not sunk but in dry dock somewhere.




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