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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/6/2013 6:09:13 PM   
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Slim hasn't been mentioned


That's a shame. Get Defeat into Victory if you haven't already read it.

I used to make Defeat into Victory mandatory reading for my junior officers and NCOs when I did that sort of thing...

That being said, Slim's victories made no difference to the outcome of the war nor the state of the post-war British Empire. The Japanese Army in Burma had no realistic ability to threaten India after the British dealt with the much more dangerous internal risks including the Bengal Famine. Just a competent General was all that was required. Meanwhile, Japan was facing annihilation many thousands of miles away and the forces that could have be reallocated from Burma would not have changed the outcome of that struggle one bit. Finally, retaking Burma and eventually Malaya made no difference to the Empire, which was in no position to maintain its overseas holdings.

All that a long answer to why Slim may not get a fair share of praise as a general of troops.


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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/6/2013 6:22:04 PM   
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FAM: <reading telegram> "...the President has been asking what happened to 2nd Bn/102nd STOP Frankly a lot of us have been asking that STOP With oodles of warmth, General Marshall END"

GODDAMNIT! OK, WHO LEAKED IT? I told you people this was top secret and that ESPECIALLY means Washington. I swear to Odin some of you IDIOTS act like you never used an indoor ****ter before!

"Oodles of warmth", my ass. Son of a bitch probably has some wet behind the ears West Point pinhead halfway to Pearl by now. LISTEN UP PEOPLE! I WANT A FULL ALERT FOR ALL ANTI-AIRCRAFT CREWS STARTING AT 08:00 TOMORROW! Anything coming in from the north, shoot it down, even if it has US markings.

Moana, go find a map. Find a nice, out of the way place with good weather...........

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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/6/2013 6:27:53 PM   
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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/6/2013 6:28:42 PM   
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Commonwealth had already taken tremendous casulties


Monty was under tremendous pressure from Churchill to cut back on casualties. During the Normandy campaign the troops suffered loss rates close if not equal to WW1 rates. After that the UK was breaking up combat and support units to keep other units up to strength.

Part of the reason Monty was so popular with the rank and file was that they knew he was careful with their lives. Of course he wasn't the first pick for 8th Army but Gort's plane got shot down. An interesting what-if.

So true - the German reserve panzer divisions were all concentrated in the area north of Caen, where the British and Canadians were. At that point in the war there were few guns/tank destroyers that could take on the Tigers. US formations also had more truck transport available to move quicker.

One of Monty's biggest failures was ignoring the islands guarding the estuary leading into Antwerp. These were very lightly defended until the Canadians were close to Antwerp, whereupon the Germans heavily reinforced them. The Canadians took Antwerp but Monty denied them a place in the victory parade because he thought they had been too slow getting there (they had to fight along the coast, through all the heavy fortifications of the Atlantic Wall), and he rewarded them with the job of taking the islands (basically mud flats with dikes, which the Germans breached to flood the landscape). He did not get them any proper landing craft for the job so they paddled canvas boats across the narrowest crossings, a predictable route. The battle was extremely bloody and took months, while the Allies were denied use of the biggest port in Europe when it was sorely needed to sustain the offensives in the south. The troops assigned to Market Garden could have taken the islands and then broken through in the North after Antwerp was taken.

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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/6/2013 6:29:27 PM   
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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/6/2013 6:31:22 PM   
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An interesting view on how Brits see Americans. Not for the faint of vocabulary.

I suspect that it doesn't matter much how Brits see Americans any more.

Opinions that do seem to matter:
How the Iranians see Israel and vice versa
How the Chinese see the Japanese
How Americans see the Chinese
How the Germans see the French
How Putin sees the world

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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/6/2013 6:36:12 PM   
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Slim hasn't been mentioned


That's a shame. Get Defeat into Victory if you haven't already read it.

I used to make Defeat into Victory mandatory reading for my junior officers and NCOs when I did that sort of thing...

That being said, Slim's victories made no difference to the outcome of the war nor the state of the post-war British Empire. The Japanese Army in Burma had no realistic ability to threaten India after the British dealt with the much more dangerous internal risks including the Bengal Famine. Just a competent General was all that was required. Meanwhile, Japan was facing annihilation many thousands of miles away and the forces that could have be reallocated from Burma would not have changed the outcome of that struggle one bit. Finally, retaking Burma and eventually Malaya made no difference to the Empire, which was in no position to maintain its overseas holdings.

All that a long answer to why Slim may not get a fair share of praise as a general of troops.


Don't forget the post-war world. British troops in Malaya and Burma held off attempts by indigenous Communists [which had support from China and Russia] to take over those countries. Britain left only after Capitalist governments were well established.

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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/6/2013 6:40:33 PM   
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Moana: Sir, I have some options for you but we need direction. Do you want to be closer to the action?

FAM: Hell no! Got anything with good fishing?

Moana: Communication links?

FAM: I think a weekly mail plane would do. I don't want George Marshall to know and I don't want Thurgood Marshall to know. No Marshalls, got it?

Moana: No Marshalls , got it. Sir, about General Marshall and this notion he might....errm..reassign you? Well, aren't you an Admiral, sir?

FAM: Holy Mary and the Sweet Baby Jesus! You are right!............

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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/6/2013 6:47:29 PM   
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A Christmas present. USS Massachusetts showed up in Panama. I never look at reinforcement schedules any more. It's just a tease. Plus, it is so much more fun to be surprised.


It is usally handy to know if a few DD's need to be there ahead of time to escort these prizes it is quite possible for the IJ to station submarines in the lanes where these platforms might show up on the map and ruin a perfectly good ship ...

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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/6/2013 6:49:51 PM   
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An interesting view on how Brits see Americans. Not for the faint of vocabulary.



No kidding. What a show-off that lad is.

"tmesis" I had to look it up. I thought it was a spelling error.

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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/6/2013 6:51:25 PM   
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A Christmas present. USS Massachusetts showed up in Panama. I never look at reinforcement schedules any more. It's just a tease. Plus, it is so much more fun to be surprised.


It is usally handy to know if a few DD's need to be there ahead of time to escort these prizes it is quite possible for the IJ to station submarines in the lanes where these platforms might show up on the map and ruin a perfectly good ship ...



Right, no DD. I sent her to Auckland via The Galapagos so JJ doesn't poach.

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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/6/2013 6:56:13 PM   
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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/6/2013 7:07:44 PM   
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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/6/2013 7:13:51 PM   
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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/6/2013 7:26:41 PM   
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You need a HQ closer to the front like we do at Kandy House:






I trust you keep enough Choi in the pond to ensure mosquitos larvae do not last long?

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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/6/2013 7:28:16 PM   
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Boracay near Panay. We already have a company of paratroops on Panay. Nice.



Hate to tell you but ... framed between two trees near the centre of the picture, there appears to be the pagoda superstructure of a Japanese battleship.

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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/6/2013 7:46:56 PM   
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I trust you keep enough Choi in the pond to ensure mosquitos larvae do not last long?


We use DDT, it's quicker and cheaper.

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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/6/2013 8:16:33 PM   
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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/6/2013 8:58:17 PM   
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Taytay: No inbound JJ ships seen so the taffy unloading 2nd & 3rd Bn. 102nd Inf will stay on station. South Dakota is out of main gun ammo so she has to go back to Jolo where two 16,000 ton AE's will attempt a reload. Someone expalined to me once what criteria determine BB reloads but I promptly forgot the details. I think it was pushed out of available memory when I had to memorize Mandrake Jr.'s new cell number. IIRC it has to do with the size of the AE, the port size, naval support points at the base and something about a case of single malt Scotch. Newly arrived USS Denver and two DD's with full ammo will move to Taytay from Jolo as a security force. North Carolina will bombard Taytay tonight to attrit the ground troops and break some airplanes. The "easy" capture of Taytay is turning into a noisy affair. I should probably just air drop on Basuanga and build a field from scratch. Supply at Jolo just fell under 2x need so the drop tanks all disappeared. No LRCAP over Taytay today. Fortunately, it is 10 hexes from Davao so the Vals can't reach.

Mindanao: Dadjangas airstrip finally ready. Some P-40's will fly from there to provide better coverage over ships making the run to Jolo and back to Ternate. 22nd Marine and part of a US Army Regmt headed for Davao. USMC tank bn and 8th Marine headed for Cagayan.

USS Washington arrived safely at Ternate. She is in pretty good shape except for some 20 mm batteries topside. I am going to use her once to bombard Manado even in her current state. A queue of damaged DD's and CL's headed for Darwin.

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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/7/2013 12:42:46 AM   
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***************Pranning, March 7, 1943(c)*****************


Taytay: No inbound JJ ships seen so the taffy unloading 2nd & 3rd Bn. 102nd Inf will stay on station. South Dakota is out of main gun ammo so she has to go back to Jolo where two 16,000 ton AE's will attempt a reload. Someone expalined to me once what criteria determine BB reloads but I promptly forgot the details. I think it was pushed out of available memory when I had to memorize Mandrake Jr.'s new cell number. IIRC it has to do with the size of the AE, the port size, naval support points at the base and something about a case of single malt Scotch.


What's your suppry rever at Joro? Do you have suppry roaded on the AEs? A 16,000 tonner, in addition to making a spectacular fireworks show when torpedoed, should be able to rearm main battery ammo on your puny 16" guns.


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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/7/2013 1:18:47 AM   
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***************Pranning, March 7, 1943(c)*****************


Taytay: No inbound JJ ships seen so the taffy unloading 2nd & 3rd Bn. 102nd Inf will stay on station. South Dakota is out of main gun ammo so she has to go back to Jolo where two 16,000 ton AE's will attempt a reload. Someone expalined to me once what criteria determine BB reloads but I promptly forgot the details. I think it was pushed out of available memory when I had to memorize Mandrake Jr.'s new cell number. IIRC it has to do with the size of the AE, the port size, naval support points at the base and something about a case of single malt Scotch.


What's your suppry rever at Joro? Do you have suppry roaded on the AEs? A 16,000 tonner, in addition to making a spectacular fireworks show when torpedoed, should be able to rearm main battery ammo on your puny 16" guns.




Suppry rever at Joro rearry crappy but staff officer from Suva send them over arready roaded. Also AD has suppry. I think maybe 1 or 2 reroads of 16 in magazines prus torpedoes for destroyers.

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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/7/2013 1:23:41 AM   
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A PT boat with a full gas tank and a full ammo load could have stopped the Norman invasion in 1066.

Discuss.

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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/7/2013 1:27:36 AM   
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Boracay near Panay. We already have a company of paratroops on Panay. Nice.



Hate to tell you but ... framed between two trees near the centre of the picture, there appears to be the pagoda superstructure of a Japanese battleship.



Nope..it would be smoking or sunk.

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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/7/2013 2:25:37 AM   
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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/7/2013 3:31:34 AM   
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If you need a new HQ and don't want rain for five years, Kansas isn't bad this time of the year..



Is there any fishing and do you guys have any abalone?

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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/7/2013 3:45:59 AM   
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Extremely nice guy, especially for a lawyer. He doesn't practice law anymore. He works for the guy up the street. They charge large fees to protect business owners from the EPA. You may draw your own conclusions about voting practices in the household.

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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/7/2013 6:40:13 AM   
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I took the dogs out and they nearly dragged me across the street to sniff the lower branches of the neighbor's Christmas tree which he had dragged out to the curb. He has two male dogs. He might want to steam clean the carpet.

Extremely nice guy, especially for a lawyer. He doesn't practice law anymore. He works for the guy up the street. They charge large fees to protect business owners from the EPA. You may draw your own conclusions about voting practices in the household.

It's a conundrum/Catch 22, isn't it. They hate the EPA but they love the income it generates! So would you vote Republican [less government interference] or Democrat [keep the EPA and earn lots of money fighting it]?

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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/7/2013 1:32:37 PM   
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It's a conundrum/Catch 22, isn't it. They hate the EPA but they love the income it generates! So would you vote Republican [less government interference] or Democrat [keep the EPA and earn lots of money fighting it]?


I might propose that a conundrum is a puzzle of a deeper nature like if there is a God that loves children how can he let children suffer so? .. rather than describe a situation where a values conflcit is resolved on the side of profit .. I might suggest more of a Milo situation than Descartes

Malpractice is the other hot topic with similar contrasts in values ... I always wondered how insecure a Malpractice Trial lawyer feels when they are being whisked away in an ambulance



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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/7/2013 2:43:57 PM   
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RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly clothed) - 1/7/2013 3:07:57 PM   
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Democrat Franklin Roosevelt was the first of eleven presidents Republican Bob Hope entertained. The commander-in-chief loved the comedian on the big screen and appreciated Hope's efforts entertaining the troops during World War II. Their paths crossed when Bob emceed a dinner in the president's honor, a few months before Roosevelt won an unprecedented fourth term in 1944. In front of a crowd of luminaries, Hope told a story about a Marine in the South Pacific who was disappointed that he had not encountered an enemy combatant. At the edge of a jungle, with his gun at the ready, he shouted out, "To hell with Hirohito!" A Japanese soldier emerged from behind the trees. "To hell with Roosevelt!" But the Marine lowered his weapon. "Darn it, I can't shoot a fellow Republican." The president threw back his head and laughed so hard Bob later said he almost considered voting for him.


Btw, please change the "RE:" line. Each time the 'Last post' column reads "RE: Hot Asian Action (mostly .." [snip due to small screen size] it is just - irritating...

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