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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 9:21:43 PM   
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(So far) A good exchange of airframes and ships for getting your amphibious TF into position and (partially) unloaded.  About as good as you could have asked for, IMO.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 10:17:55 PM   
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Turns out the Amphib group DID make Darwin even though the BB had used 750 op points??? Go figure.

Did the BB exchange fire with shore batteries during the landing? That would account for heavy use of op points after the TF arrived.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 10:35:08 PM   
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Turns out the Amphib group DID make Darwin even though the BB had used 750 op points??? Go figure.

Did the BB exchange fire with shore batteries during the landing? That would account for heavy use of op points after the TF arrived.


No, these were refueling op points generated from the game turn prior to the movement to Darwin, the smaller vessels in the convoy decided to steal fuel from Maryland during turn execution. Consequently, I did not think the covnoy would make 4-5 hexes so the main group was set on "do not unload". This cost a half day of unloading delay. Oh well...so far so good.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 10:35:27 PM   
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The main landing goes in:

Amphibious Assault at Darwin (76,124)

TF 200 troops unloading over beach at Darwin, 76,124


Allied ground losses:
949 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 200 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 118 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 36 (2 destroyed, 34 disabled)
Vehicles lost 89 (0 destroyed, 89 disabled)


10 troops of a AIF Cmbt Eng lost overboard during unload of I Aus Corps Engr Bn
11 troops of a AIF Inf Section 42 lost overboard during unload of 7th Australian Div /2
10 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 7th Australian Div /5
25 Pounder Gun accidentally lost during unload of 2/9th Field Rgt
8 Naval Support troops lost in surf during unload of South Pacific
8 Naval Support troops lost in surf during unload of South Pacific /3
10 Support troops lost in surf during unload of South Pacific /4
11 troops of a AIF Inf Section 42 accidentally lost during unload of 2/1 AIF Pioneer Bn /1
11 troops of a AIF Inf Section 42 lost in surf during unload of 2/2 AIF Pioneer Bn
81mm M1 Mortar lost overboard during unload of 193rd Tank Bn /3


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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 10:36:42 PM   
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The resultant combat:

Ground combat at Darwin (76,124)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 13158 troops, 115 guns, 51 vehicles, Assault Value = 547

Defending force 31022 troops, 543 guns, 494 vehicles, Assault Value = 1225

Japanese ground losses:
283 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade
18th Tank Regiment
4th Engineer Co
38th/A Division
38th/B Division
22nd Ind.AA Gun Co
107th JAAF AF Bn
53rd JNAF AF Unit
52nd JNAF AF Unit
5th Div /2

Defending units:
I Aus Corps Engr Bn /1
6th Marine Rgt /6
6th Australian Division
2/1 AIF Pioneer Bn /2
632nd TD Bn /1
7th Australian Division
1st Marine Regiment
2/2 AIF Pioneer Bn /1
22nd Marine Rgt /1
2nd USMC Engr Rgt /3
193rd Tank Bn /2
2/9th Field Regiment
2nd RAAF M/W Sqn /1
21/22 Field Regiment
8th Marine Def Bn /1
16th USN SeaBees /1
225th Field Artillery Battalion
2/11th Field Regiment
134th Field Artillery Battalion
South Pacific /1
2nd Australian Hvy AA Rgt /1
2nd USMC FA Bn /1


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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 10:45:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sprior

The main landing goes in:

Amphibious Assault at Darwin (76,124)

TF 200 troops unloading over beach at Darwin, 76,124


Allied ground losses:
949 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 200 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 118 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 36 (2 destroyed, 34 disabled)
Vehicles lost 89 (0 destroyed, 89 disabled)


10 troops of a AIF Cmbt Eng lost overboard during unload of I Aus Corps Engr Bn
11 troops of a AIF Inf Section 42 lost overboard during unload of 7th Australian Div /2
10 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 7th Australian Div /5
25 Pounder Gun accidentally lost during unload of 2/9th Field Rgt
8 Naval Support troops lost in surf during unload of South Pacific
8 Naval Support troops lost in surf during unload of South Pacific /3
10 Support troops lost in surf during unload of South Pacific /4
11 troops of a AIF Inf Section 42 accidentally lost during unload of 2/1 AIF Pioneer Bn /1
11 troops of a AIF Inf Section 42 lost in surf during unload of 2/2 AIF Pioneer Bn
81mm M1 Mortar lost overboard during unload of 193rd Tank Bn /3




The weather guy forgot to warn us about the gnarly 20 foot waves at the landing beach. Well, it is the "North Shore"

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 10:48:49 PM   
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The two Aussie divisions and one Marine regiment already ashore....along with 5 artillery units. No way they will be dislodged by the LYB's currently at Darwin.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 10:50:28 PM   
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Er yes, but we have to dislodge them

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 11:02:15 PM   
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**************Night Dec 26 to afternoon Dec 27************

Sub vs Sub: SS S-44 attacking SS RO-63 at 85,126 - near Wessel Islands

Japanese Ships
SS RO-63, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage (no kidding)

Allied Ships
SS S-44


S-158 takes on the hunters

ASW attack near Bathurst Island at 78,122

Japanese Ships
SS I-158

Allied Ships
DM Pruitt, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
AM Whippoorwill


and then the sun comes up.....

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 11:05:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

The weather guy forgot to warn us about the gnarly 20 foot waves at the landing beach. Well, it is the "North Shore"



As long as it isnt Jersey shore.... I dont have Caps writting talents, but im sure he can work a Guido into the thread some how....

Kind regards,

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 11:07:21 PM   
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Payback for Pruitt

Sub attack near Bathurst Island at 78,122

Japanese Ships
SS I-158, hits 6, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Meade
CL St. Louis
CLAA San Juan
DD Clark
DD Cushing


The bad weather at Darwin shreds the first LYB attack? 3 Bettys launch but no hits.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Darwin at 76,124

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 52 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
G4M1 Betty x 6
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 9



Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 3
Beaufighter Ic x 2
F4F-3A Wildcat x 1
F4F-4 Wildcat x 30


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Maryland

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 11:09:47 PM   
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I think this was an attack on one of the carrier taffys.
No Bettys get through the considerable CAP

Morning Air attack on TF, near Bathurst Island at 78,122

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 116 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 40 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
G4M1 Betty x 10



Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 8
Martlet II x 17
F4F-3A Wildcat x 4
F4F-4 Wildcat x 38


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 11:20:16 PM   
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and again

Morning Air attack on TF, near Bathurst Island at 78,122

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 114 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 40 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
G4M1 Betty x 7



Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 8
Martlet II x 17
F4F-3A Wildcat x 4
F4F-4 Wildcat x 36


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed


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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 11:23:31 PM   
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Not sure what these were doing or where exactly Moa is...maybe they were there to eat ammo??

Morning Air attack on TF, near Moa at 73,119

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 1
F4F-3A Wildcat x 1
F4F-4 Wildcat x 39
SBD-3 Dauntless x 17

Japanese Ships
xAKL Kokuei Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Bokuei Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Chosen Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAKL Haguro Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Yoshinogawa Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage


Hey look...a TBF hit something!

Morning Air attack on TF, near Moa at 73,119

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8
TBF-1 Avenger x 17


Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAKL Chosen Maru, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAKL Kaishi Maru
xAKL Bokuei Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Yoshinogawa Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Kokuei Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk


No Allied losses



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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 11:27:35 PM   
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Afternoon attack on Maryland. CAP is fatigued and out of position. 5 Bettys launch. I don't think the Empire is going to be celebrating.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Darwin at 76,124

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
G4M1 Betty x 5
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 3
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1



Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 1
Beaufighter Ic x 2
F4F-4 Wildcat x 20


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Ic: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/9/2012 12:05:41 AM   
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Er yes, but we have to dislodge them


Damnit! It was going so well.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/9/2012 12:15:03 AM   
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Dramatic D-Day pictures




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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/9/2012 12:52:32 AM   
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I was made to go and see The Hunger Games yesterday. Not as bad as I feared.


Always better when you keep your expectations at a sufficiently low level.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/9/2012 12:53:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sprior


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ORIGINAL: sprior

I was made to go and see The Hunger Games yesterday. Not as bad as I feared.


Did you try to imagine whats her name with her clothes off?


Why wouldn't I?


She's underage.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/9/2012 12:54:55 AM   
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I had another brilliant marketing idea. A line of warm comfort pajamas for women with cute animal graphics. I know what you're thinking, "Mandrake, that has been done already"

Not really, see the idea is you only sell the bottoms, no tops. The line would be called "Hello *itty"


So solly, you inflinge on copylight....




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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/9/2012 1:13:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Dramatic D-Day pictures




Just what I was thinking - should be mandatory to pass surfboard training before an amphib assault since the war gods and the weather gods are in cahoots over invasion disruptus.

Re: the TBF hits - they don't really count since both those ships were drifting, burning hulks from bomb hits earlier.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/9/2012 2:35:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Dramatic D-Day pictures





Dude!

I had no idea you could surf the baseplate of a 60mm mortar all the way onto the beach!

Hey, isn't that Cpl. Dewey Weber on the left, and Sgt. Hobie Atler on the right?

Sweet!

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/9/2012 3:35:18 AM   
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Totally inaccurate! Charlie don't surf!

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/9/2012 3:43:53 AM   
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By ra way, pretend I didn't read the manual. Does a severe storm really make things difficult for an amphbious landing?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/9/2012 4:32:54 AM   
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You know, that's actually a good question. It *should*, but I don't believe that it does manifest in gameplay.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/9/2012 6:26:19 AM   
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She's underage.


No she isn't, she's 22. Haven't you seen X-Men?




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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/9/2012 2:44:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

I had another brilliant marketing idea. A line of warm comfort pajamas for women with cute animal graphics. I know what you're thinking, "Mandrake, that has been done already"

Not really, see the idea is you only sell the bottoms, no tops. The line would be called "Hello *itty"


So solly, you inflinge on copylight....





Damn! Same thing happened when I invented the Internet!

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/9/2012 3:16:58 PM   
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The turn is aboard the latest generation clipper ship headed WSW at 10 kts near the Azores.

Rord Admirar Nerson has apparently been released by the Apache upon his pledge he will not come back for Thanksgiving dinner.

The landing on Bathurst has not gone well. Torres St. Bn were (notice use of plural form here even though there is only one Bn...this is a curious grammatical aberration that the poor, barely literate bumpkins in the commonwealth..[except Canadians, I think]..use) ordered to seize the island but encountered some type of difficulty.

The original plan was for Torres Strait Bn. to seize the island, allowing a USMC Raider Bn, USMC Def. Bn. and engineers and AA to land with less disruption. I shall have to investigate.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/9/2012 3:36:14 PM   
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She's underage.


No she isn't, she's 22. Haven't you seen X-Men?




having a shapeshifter as girlfriend must be convenient...

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/9/2012 3:42:07 PM   
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********Our Lady of Perpetual Guilt Catholic Church, Bathurst Is., Dec. 27, 1942(c)************


Maj. Sparks, Acting CO, His Majesty's forces, Bathurst: <His uniform is dishevled after his tumble into the water during landing. On his breast pocket there is stenciled "Leader Rating=38, Land Rating=36". This is not customary but was put there at the insistence of his former commander who had this to say on his evaluation, "Major Sparks is an unimaginative and extremely cautious officer, although it should be said his men would follow him anywhere even if it is chiefly out of curiosity".> Father, I'm afraid I must insist.

Fr. O'Brien: Insist all you wish, my son. I will not relinquish control, at least not wihtout a properly vetted contract. What of the Marina lease rights? I'm sorry, the Tawi people will not be treated like this. Out of Christian charity your men can encamp over there at the East side of the clearing but no coconut harvesting, is that clear?

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