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2010 Status... wish thread... - 1/3/2010 8:49:30 PM   
jmlima

 

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Status: offline 		And may we all say cheers to another year of glory on this front!

(Also, here it is the 2010 bashing thread, just to keep the tradition...)
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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 1/3/2010 9:23:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jmlima

And may we all say cheers to another year of glory on this front!

(Also, here it is the 2010 bashing thread, just to keep the tradition...)


LOL!!!!!!!!

Wish I'd thought of opening this thread first............

Maybe we'll be lucky this year.

Rob.

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So we're at war with the Russkies eh?? I suppose we really ought to invade or something. (Lonnnng pause while studying the map)
Hmmmm... big place ain't it??
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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 1/3/2010 9:44:47 PM   
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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 1/8/2010 10:01:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		2010...another year closer to 2012 and the end of the world.

Seriously though, I would give anything for a new tactical / operational level game to come out. I just can't play CS, SP and TOAW anymore.

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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 1/8/2010 11:04:48 PM   
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Have you tried Panther's Conquest of the Aegean yet?? Awesome game/system and it fits right into that sweetspot between tactical and operational levels...........sort of what boardgaming would call grand tactical.

Rob.

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So we're at war with the Russkies eh?? I suppose we really ought to invade or something. (Lonnnng pause while studying the map)
Hmmmm... big place ain't it??
- Sir Harry Flashman (1854)

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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 1/9/2010 12:34:49 PM   
jmlima

 

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(BTW, I'm actually considering asking for a mail order delivery on the beer.)

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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 1/12/2010 2:37:13 AM   
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Hi Max 86,

Have you tried Panther's Conquest of the Aegean yet?? Awesome game/system and it fits right into that sweetspot between tactical and operational levels...........sort of what boardgaming would call grand tactical.

Rob.


I have almost talked myself into it. I know the game comes highly recommended but the aegean doesn't really light my fires and I am really waiting for the Bulge version coming out .....hopefully soon this year.

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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 3/17/2010 12:29:33 PM   
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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 3/17/2010 7:10:14 PM   
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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 3/17/2010 8:18:37 PM   
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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 3/18/2010 6:17:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Erik, if there weren't posts of this sort, then there would be no posts at all. When was the last meaningful post from Matrix, other than to say something will eventually be done?

This game, now in the 10th+ year of "development".

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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 3/18/2010 12:37:31 PM   
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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 3/18/2010 6:54:09 PM   
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That's enough, folks.


Aww gee ... Mom .. Erik picking on me ...

Erik, all kidding aside nice to know the game is still on the "to do" list ... I see no better operational level game in the works or out there for sale. It would most certainly be a definative move on Matrix's part to release this guy.

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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 3/21/2010 11:46:50 PM   
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I see no better operational level game in the works or out there for sale. It would most certainly be a definative move on Matrix's part to release this guy.


can't agree more, I almost have lost the interest of playing Operational Art Of War III or Conquest of the Aegean etc games now.

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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 3/22/2010 11:57:28 PM   
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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 3/24/2010 2:49:35 AM   
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I recognize that official info has not been forthcoming. With that said, if the game were dead, that info would indeed be posted. You can safely assume that until we post that, the game is not dead.


On the surface this sounds promising, but if you read the words closely, there is nothing positive that says the game is still in development. This only says that when the official decision is made to cease development a posting will be made. It says nothing about ongoing development effort.

The history of Matrix with this game has been a long series of making promises, breaking promises and taking long delays until Matrix makes a new promise. This is not a satisfactory response to the questions posed by the buying public.

Would like to see Matrix back up their words with real action, such as, posting graphics that were requested. Better yet, how about some current commentary and screen prints of a current test scenario.

Regards, RhinoBones


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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 3/26/2010 1:24:32 AM   
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I have War in the Pacific Admirals Edition but don't play due to time issues.

I have ToaW but have never played it.

If this game and war in Russia were both released today they too would be sitting on my shelf!

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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 3/27/2010 11:42:36 AM   
Alan Sharif

 

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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 3/27/2010 1:01:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: scsfan


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ORIGINAL: Capt Cliff

I see no better operational level game in the works or out there for sale. It would most certainly be a definative move on Matrix's part to release this guy.


can't agree more, I almost have lost the interest of playing Operational Art Of War III or Conquest of the Aegean etc games now.


Panthers Bulge game should be out I'd say by end of April....so hopefully that will ease the wargaming itch for awhile hey lads!

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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 3/27/2010 4:37:31 PM   
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Panthers Bulge game should be out I'd say by end of April....so hopefully that will ease the wargaming itch for awhile hey lads!



I don't know, I have bought all of Panther's games, even RDOA from BFC. I try to 'get involved' but for me there has always been something missing from the mix, innovative as it is. Other wargamers I usually play with feel similar, I don't know what it is. Now if you want to talk WitE then that's a whole different ballgame....


Regards Battlefields, well considering Ludovic said last June 2009 the game and editor were finished and awaiting final testing, and we have seen and heard exactly zilch since then, I think the only conclusion would be it is dead. Too bad, but as others have said there are other games out there.

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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 3/28/2010 4:26:54 PM   
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Regards Battlefields, well considering Ludovic said last June 2009 the game and editor were finished and awaiting final testing, and we have seen and heard exactly zilch since then, I think the only conclusion would be it is dead. Too bad, but as others have said there are other games out there.


Well , let's face it, this is still and hex and counter game, with graphics to match, and requires in house development.

Based on that , we can safely conclude it will not sell as well as the 3d ubber graphics games, and it's far more expensive and labour intensive to produce that just repackaging some old game and selling it.

All things accounted for, I think it's easy to understand why this has been on the back burner with many,many other titles taking precedence.

If we agree or not it's irrelevant since Matrix policies are not likely to change for that.

BTW, last time Ludo posted he also said that due to the latest changes all scenarios had to be re-tested. And this was before Erik posted that the game had been sent back due to another set of glitches. What I would like to see was someone that is actually playtesting this title post here saying so. They seem to be strangely absent... This assuming playtesting is in progress.

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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 3/30/2010 2:58:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		My PC is still in a box from my recent move otherwise I'd post a screenie... or two. Once Erik gives the official nod we will renew testing, design, etc. Until then... Matrix has a lot of great stuff to offer. :)

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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 3/30/2010 9:05:27 AM   
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My PC is still in a box from my recent move otherwise I'd post a screenie... or two. Once Erik gives the official nod we will renew testing, design, etc. Until then... Matrix has a lot of great stuff to offer. :)


So, the game is indeed going nowhere at present.

Ah well, where is that TOAW patch.. oh wait... it's going the same way...

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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 3/30/2010 3:00:01 PM   
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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 3/30/2010 7:05:05 PM   
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Ahahhhhhh.... The old blame-it-on-Erik trick 


Erik?? Erik?? All I see is a set of eyebrows and crap load of alligators!!!

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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 3/31/2010 1:33:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: geozero

My PC is still in a box from my recent move otherwise I'd post a screenie... or two. Once Erik gives the official nod we will renew testing, design, etc. Until then... Matrix has a lot of great stuff to offer. :)


So, the game is indeed going nowhere at present.

Ah well, where is that TOAW patch.. oh wait... it's going the same way...


No, my PC is in a box because I just relocated my family half way across the country and I have not unpacked them yet or else I'd post a screenie...

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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 3/31/2010 1:34:57 AM   
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Ahahhhhhh.... The old blame-it-on-Erik trick 



Erik's in charge. Not blaming anyone. I think he's already responded above.

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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 5/6/2010 1:10:40 AM   
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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 5/6/2010 9:30:26 PM   
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I saw it on the home page of Matrix Games, in the "Coming soon" section at the bottom, dose this mean CA is now on the priority list? 


Ahhhhhh........if only it were true that this means what we all hope it might mean.

Rob.

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RE: 2010 Status... wish thread... - 5/6/2010 9:34:51 PM   
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