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RE: 10th July 1944 - 4/24/2013 9:29:02 AM   
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Glad I was wrong! Nice catch!

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11-12th July 1944 - 4/25/2013 8:15:00 AM   
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Hi all,

Hi JocMeister:

A small but nice catch as you say. It all adds up!

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Sumatra/Burma:

All quiet in Burma as I gradually withdraw units from the frontline, some for repair and others for evac for use in other theatres.

In Sumatra the twin pronged offensive against Djambi and Oosthaven will start tomorrow. The screenshot shows the situation with troops moving SW to Oosthaven and from the west towards Djambi. I don't expect serious resistance from either of these. Djambi has 2 units and Oosthaven 4 with 10K men.

Faber may decide to move from Palembang with his 100K stack. I'm leaving units behind in Pramol blah blah (the base SW of Palembang) so should be ok here behind level 4 forts. In many ways if he does decide to leave Palembang I could be good for me as my LBA can hit him on the move.

Recon of Northern Borneo is complete. I confess I'm torn and undecided whether to advance on Malaya or Borneo.

Faber has very few units in northern Borneo. Potentially as little as 12 units comprising 25K men in Singkawang, Brunei, Kuching and Miri so should be fairly easy to take this region.

Malaya on the other hand has upto 50-60K men.

Pros and cons:

Borneo:

+

Easy to take at present
Cuts off more oil
Creates a massive wedge in enemy held territory threatening further areas

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Risky as would require air cover and threat of LBA from Saigon, Soerabaya and Singkawang
Not as many VP's are available

Malaya:

+

Singers is a great base to get with a big port, AF and repair shipyard
Potential threat to Jap held Burma and Indochina
Good VP's available from Singers
Easier to protect invasion fleets

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More Jap troops to take on so harder to take
Still a relatively peripheral invasion that wouldn't threaten as many areas as Borneo would

What do my fellow readers think?

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Ambon/Sorong:

All like clockwork down here with no further Japanese interference. The remaining target bases were taken (Dobo, Babo, Taberfane, Babar and Saumlaki) with no loss. I'm awaiting for the remaining men and material to unload then all ships will head back to Townsville before dispersing.

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Submarine Warfare:

2 x dud/missed attacks.

SS Cero blew up E W-28 NW of Luzon.

SS Icefish located the same convoy and sank AK Ikuta Maru with a torpedo.

On the other side SS Tang was sank by an Uber E ASW TF west of Japan.




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RE: 10th July 1944 - 4/25/2013 2:26:04 PM   
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The issues of Palembang, Batavia, Soerabaja and Singapore is they are BIG targets and therefore they are likely to be places where the Empire will hold for as long as possible. Fighting will produce damage and its therefore a call between wanting the points and or the faciltities - or taking advantage of his needing to garrison them with loads of top quality troops which by a bypass will turn into loads of high quality POWS.

Once Borneo is secured he can neither get any of the SRA material out - which is why the war started, nor can he easily extricate his troops. By now you should have massive air superiority and naval supremacy - and the balance will continue to swing against him as resources dry up.

For the Empire its a horns of a dilemma as if they realise that you can bypass they will possibly pull forces back, in which case you can take some of the big prizes cheaply. Recon is the key to all this I guess.

My tuppen'worth.

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RE: 10th July 1944 - 4/25/2013 9:08:25 PM   
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Hi Roger,

Indeed. It's the reverse for me where I can take bases much quicker that have lower VP's or tae longer to stake out more sons of Nippon and claim more VP's. Still pretty un-decided on this one I must say....

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RE: 10th July 1944 - 4/26/2013 6:03:41 AM   
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Time is the issue maybe?

How soon you you need to be physically in control of Singapore (base facilities etc) or the fuel of Palembang etc? If you need them to help your offensive than you need them now. If not then you can bypass them and pretty much walk in six months later when they are starved out by your bypass. So do you have a nice tidy sweep up strategy, or do you grab key bases and use your naval and air assets to ensure the Japs left behind stay and behave themselves?

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RE: 10th July 1944 - 4/27/2013 3:11:24 AM   
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Time is the issue maybe?

How soon you you need to be physically in control of Singapore (base facilities etc) or the fuel of Palembang etc? If you need them to help your offensive than you need them now. If not then you can bypass them and pretty much walk in six months later when they are starved out by your bypass. So do you have a nice tidy sweep up strategy, or do you grab key bases and use your naval and air assets to ensure the Japs left behind stay and behave themselves?

Roger

Agreed, Speedy needs to close down Singers to prevent airlift of the bypassed troops out of Palembang.

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RE: 10th July 1944 - 4/27/2013 7:22:39 AM   
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I have found it almost impossible to stop airlifting. Not sure what I´m doing wrong but if the distance is longer a few hexes even using 100s of fighters on LRCAP I´m powerless to stop any airlifting. In or out.

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RE: 10th July 1944 - 4/27/2013 8:41:46 AM   
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LRCAP against transports only works if LRCAP base is 3 hexes or less distant from the fighters base of origin.
Within this range airlift is stoppable without problems. Out of that range you will not score a single kill.

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RE: 10th July 1944 - 4/27/2013 8:47:04 AM   
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LRCAP against transports only works if LRCAP base is 3 hexes or less distant from the fighters base of origin.
Within this range airlift is stoppable without problems. Out of that range you will not score a single kill.


Ah, that explains it. Thank you.

Is there any way at all to stop transports flying in/out outside 3 hexes? My opponent is using what I can only assume is a fairly large armada of flying boats to shuffle units around at will.

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RE: 10th July 1944 - 4/27/2013 9:02:11 AM   
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Now that is useful to know, you learn something every day don't you.

I assume, I hope correctly, that any airlift is only of men, and that the heavy equipment has to stay in place - therefore its not a superweapon... if it was then I'd be very concerned.

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RE: 10th July 1944 - 4/27/2013 9:13:49 AM   
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Well, even if its only men it has proven more than a nuisance in my game. Most recently my opponent flew in some 6000 men over 3-4 turns. My nearest AF is 6 hexes away so I can´t stop it. The AF is closed so that why I´m assuming he is using float planes.

I have tried everything I can think of to stop it but no luck.

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RE: 10th July 1944 - 4/27/2013 9:19:55 AM   
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I'd love to know what the historical justification of it is.....

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RE: 10th July 1944 - 4/27/2013 3:01:05 PM   
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Well, even if its only men it has proven more than a nuisance in my game. Most recently my opponent flew in some 6000 men over 3-4 turns. My nearest AF is 6 hexes away so I can´t stop it. The AF is closed so that why I´m assuming he is using float planes.

I have tried everything I can think of to stop it but no luck.


Ha! I wish I could fly 6k men in 3-4 turns! Not quite that many. Maybe you missed the minor reinforcement amphibious landing?

The issue with large jumps forward is that you then can't support the forward position with air cover easily. That is as it should be I'd say.

The Emily flying boat does carry a massive load, but it's still only about 1-2 squads per plane per day. That doesn't seem too off, does it? I'm not sure how much these were used in reality, but in game they also come at a 4E price, which is quite expensive for the economy in 44. That could be 4 Franks or Jacks.

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RE: 10th July 1944 - 4/27/2013 3:28:02 PM   
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Point taken that such an airlift capability comes at a price.... provided its just more men to eat the supplies at the forward defence then its fine by me.

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13-14th July 1944 - 4/28/2013 8:20:31 AM   
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Hi all,

Interesting discussion guys. LoBaron I didn't know that. Good to know!

I can place fighters right next to Palembang so keeping them closed shouldn't be a problem. I shouldn't aim for Singapore just to prevent airlifting the Palembang troops as Faber could comfortably use Singkawang or Batavia to airlift them. I am veering towards going for Malaya now as it's less of a risk, compared to going for Borneo, and gets me Singers as a nice local hub and VP source.

Once I take Djambi and Oosthaven I'll begin plans for this.

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A quiet couple of days all round as the final material and supply are unloaded at Babar (should finish tomorrow) after which my CV's will retire to Aus and then to CentPac.

Troops are moving in Sumatra and will reach Djambi in 4 days time. Oosthaven is still 10 days away.

Madang was taken easily by advancing Allied troops in New Guinea and Fiji Cdo Bde's landed at Tanna (near Noumea). A small Jap SNLF Cpy resides here and my men will attack in a few days time.

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Submarine Warfare:

2 x dud/missed attacks.

SS Segundo heavily damaged AK Muroto NE of Formosa.

SS Haddock heavily damaged AK Nitisan Maru with a torpedo near Daito Shoto.

SS Wahoo located the same convoy and sank AK Burma Maru with 3 torpedoes.

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RE: 13-14th July 1944 - 4/28/2013 10:42:39 AM   
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Finally caught up with your AAR! Nicely written with lots of good info!

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RE: 13-14th July 1944 - 4/28/2013 2:07:54 PM   
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Thanks JocMeister!

Glad you enjoyed the read. I've tried to veer away from using CR's as much as possible.

If there's anything further you would like to know/see let me know.

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RE: 13-14th July 1944 - 4/28/2013 3:45:01 PM   
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I also try and avoid the CRs. And if I do post them I try to cut out all the irrelevant stuff. Its hard to follow AARs where the content is more or less just miles and miles of CRs.

Screens are nice!

Pretty horrified when I read about your Port Hedland landing...


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RE: 13-14th July 1944 - 4/28/2013 3:54:10 PM   
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Me too

Feels like years ago but I remember being severely p*ssed off

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RE: 13-14th July 1944 - 4/28/2013 4:50:42 PM   
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quote:

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Me too

Feels like years ago but I remember being severely p*ssed off


Really? You could hardly tell from what you wrote after the event...

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15-19th July 1944 - 5/5/2013 1:21:23 PM   
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Hi all,

Been a quiet few days with little to note hence the quick update!

The usual fare of Allied air raids across Burma and Sumatra.

Djambi fell easily to the Allies on the 16th with 2 Jap support units scurrying into the Jungle. Allied troops should reach Oosthaven within 6 days. One taken that will call the end of the current Sumatra Ops as we prepare for Malaya. Palembang will be kept closed as a Prison Camp. I'll also try to base Fighters to the SW of Palembang to TRY to interdict any Jap airlifts.

Further south all Major Allied ships have reached a point near Townsville and will begin heading back to PH now. I'd like to try and upgrade all my ships but I'm behind the curve in CentPac so I'll likely just begin CentPac ops immediately once they're on the scene.

Only other point to note is 2 x Fuji Commando Bde's wiped out a Jap SNLF Company on Tanna on the 17th July.

I've attached an overview map of Jap held areas. As can be seen some key areas are being overrun!

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Submarine Warfare:

6 x dud/missed attacks.

SS Perch II damaged AP Atsuta Maru with a torpedo south of Kanoya on the 15th. SS Cisco located and sank the damaged transport the following day.

SS Tautog sank AK Senyo Maru near Okinawa on the 17th.

Near Torishima SS Plaice sank AK Shanghai Maru with 2 torpedoes.

SS Trespasser sank TK Mirii Maru north of Brunei on the 18th.

SS Hardhead heavily damaged AK Tyoko Maru with a torpedo near Palawan.

SS Cobia blew up DMS W-21 near Okinawa on the 19th.

On the other side SS Flounder was sank by convoy escorts off Legaspi on the 17th.




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RE: 15-19th July 1944 - 5/6/2013 7:35:35 AM   
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Do you have any radar equipped night fighters?
I have been wondering if the Japanese troop transports are flying at night.

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RE: 15-19th July 1944 - 5/6/2013 9:20:36 AM   
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Interesting idea BBfanboy. I do have 12 x Black Widow, 12 x Beaufighter and 8 x F4U2 in Sumatra. I may try the Black Widow's (at Benkoelen)

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20-22nd July 1944 - 5/10/2013 12:32:38 PM   
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Hi all,

A quick update as things are pretty quiet.

I slowly advance in Sumatra (Troops have reached Oosthaven and will recon tomorrow) and pull troops towards Ramree Island in Burma for use elsewhere.

In SoPac CV's and assault ships are leaving Australia pound for PH.

In due course I'll details more about what troops are leaving Burma and where I'll invade next.

I'll also detail more about the next round of CentPac invasions. I've so many troops for use here that I have substantial invasions planned against 5 Jap locations in CentPac. It's likely I'll conduct these in succession with no respite for my poor ships to conduct upgrades.

That's one thing that has become so apparent of late that there's so much demand for the key Capitol Ships that there's no time for them to be offline!

I've attached an update of a screenshot of the plane losses.

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Submarine Warfare:

A busy time under the sea.

5 x dud/missed attacks.

SS Salmon sank PB Kyo Maru #3 north of Japan on the 20th.

SS Trigger also scored in the area claiming PB Kaimyo Maru.

SS Cisco sank AK Bugen Maru with a torpedo SW of Japan.

On the 22nd SS Icefish sank DMS W-22 NW of Luzon.

Cisco scored again sinking PB Wa 18.

SS Hardhead damaged the fuel filled TK Medan Maru with a torpedo near Palawan.

SS Piranha sank SC CHa-1 south of Tokyo.

SS Grouper sank AKL Mitakesan Maru west of Japan on the 22nd.

On the other side DE LeHardy was sank by I-55 off Siberoet and SS Blackfish was lost off Soerabaja to an ASW TF.



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Hi all,

Still pretty quiet as forces move before the next round.

Only actions to note are that Salamaua fell on New Guinea to a US Para Rgt, 3 x Allied K's were sunk by Betties on their way back from Ambon and Oosthaven fell to Allied forces on the 25th:

Ground combat at Oosthaven (48,96)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 47723 troops, 1018 guns, 711 vehicles, Assault Value = 1388

Defending force 6459 troops, 55 guns, 76 vehicles, Assault Value = 162

Allied adjusted assault: 905

Japanese adjusted defense: 6

Allied assault odds: 150 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Oosthaven !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2213 casualties reported
Squads: 146 destroyed, 28 disabled
Non Combat: 166 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 12 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 50 (42 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 68 (68 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 3
Units destroyed 1


Allied ground losses:
172 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

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Submarine Warfare:

3 x dud/missed attacks.

SS Cisco sank AKL Awaji Maru west of Japan on the 24th.

SS Grouper sank AKL Kurenai Maru from the same convoy.

SS Trigger sank E W-39 off Sakhalin on the 25th.

SS Wahoo sank AK Nanman Maru with 2 torpedoes south of Okinawa.

SS Blackfin sank AKL Taiten Maru with a torpedo SW of Japan.

On the other side SS Albacore was sunk by an ASW TF south of Japan. SS Archerfish was damaged by ASW force sand is returning to base.

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Hi all,

The Sitzkreig continues as we ready ourselves for the next round of offensives. They'll be fewer updates as little is going on at present.

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Burma/Sumatra:

Troops are now moving to be embarked in Burma (600 x AV) from Ramree Island. Troops are also embarking at Aden and troops are resting at Oosthaven. All of these troops are preparing for invading Malaya. In due course detail the OOB and locations etc. I would expect this to be another 3-4 weeks away.

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CentPac:

CV's are now beginning to near PH. All CV's should be back there in the next 2-7 days. They'll undergo some upgrades and R&R as I await the last land units to arrive from san Fran. Then we'll begin to invade the Mariana's.

It's disappointing to be behind history with this but I feel I'll catch up with the next 3 invasions after the Mariana's being conducted in relatively quick succession. It will probably be September before the Mariana's are invaded!

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Submarine Warfare:

6 x dud/missed attack.

SS Grouper sank AKL Keian Maru with 2 torpedoes west of Japan on the 29th.

SS Pollack heavily damaged AK Brisbane Maru with a torpedo south of Formosa. In return escorts moderately damaged Pollack.

SS S-39 sank TK Sainan Maru west of Luzon.

On the other side SS Crevalle was heavily damaged by ASW forces west of Japan. SS Blackfin was sunk by E's in the same area.

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Behind history? With troops on Sumatra and Palembang pretty much cut off as an oil supplier?
You traded one economic target [oil] for another [city bombing from the Marianas]. I would not say you are doing worse than RL!

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RE: 27-31st July 1944 - 5/22/2013 7:57:21 PM   
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Well it's a good point but considering Faber lost more CV's than history by late 43 I was hoping to be a little further along in CentPac. It's a fair point you make though

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RE: 27-31st July 1944 - 5/22/2013 8:35:44 PM   
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I agree with BB! I would be very happy if I were in your situation!

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Thanks JocMeister.
 
Don't get me wrong I am happy overall. I'm certainly going to 'win' the game. I'll probably be on a minor victory within a month or 2 next stop Major victory. Just being very critical on myself I would expect more progress

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